Bitter Sushi Ladies, April 2011 - Page 2

[monkeyscience]

I went out tonight with some of my old single (and formerly single) girlfriends. And three of them were pregnant. Two of whom were married after me, and one who isn't married at all. (Still haven't gotten any info on how that happened, not that it's my business, but certainly not an expected occurrence in this circle of friends.) When they started talking all this baby stuff, I kind of wanted to cry. Especially since two of them both want to use the same/similar name to what we plan on naming our first boy! Not that we're close enough friends for it to matter, but dh and I picked that name before WE were even married, let alone before these girls were married! And they're going to get to use it before us. And Facebook is just full of pregnant people and new moms. BLEH!

[LessTraveledBy]

I am so sorry monkeyscience! That can be so very difficult.

I actually lost a wonderful, close friend, partly due to how she announced her pregnancy some years ago. She was the one person who knew that we were trying, with no luck, and she was trying for some time, also. She then made the "interesting" decision to kind of announce her pregnancy, quite late, while I was out with some friends, including her. Apparently, everyone else knew, and she made me react on the spot, with everyone else watching, by basically saying "Oh yeah, I guess you did not know I was pregnant." Umm.. No. I don't as of yet have the gift of reading people's thoughts. Either others do, or I was the only one not told.  While I love this friend, things have not been the same ever since. I could not believe that she had told everyone else, and not me. I understand that it may have been hard for her to tell me, as she knew how I felt. However, we had been so close and shared everything, so it really felt like a slap in the face. We are so very likeminded, I really miss her friendship. Yet, it has seemed to me that neither one has been able to deal with the other naturally, ever since this happened. Also, she is someone that will most likely have many more children, yet, in the next 15 years or so. In a sense I am relieved that we are no longer so close, so her announcements will most likely come by e-mail or... ugh... Facebook.

In the middle of all the pain I have had in the past years, I AM thankful for the lessons they have brought. I really am.

[Milk8shake]

Originally Posted by monkeyscience 

I think seeing this thread so much makes me crave sushi!

Ugh! I hate sushi - I cannot put anything in my mouth that smells that bad! Hahah
 

Originally Posted by monkeyscience 

Especially since two of them both want to use the same/similar name to what we plan on naming our first boy! Not that we're close enough friends for it to matter, but dh and I picked that name before WE were even married, let alone before these girls were married! And they're going to get to use it before us.

Ouch - That just plain sucks.  I feel your pain.  Actually, I was wondering if anyone else kind of felt like "their" names had been "stolen" out from under them?  When I was pregnant the first time, I had a boy's name and a girl's name picked out.  I was so excited about how special they were, and how they were "ours".  Since then, my cousin has named his dog the boy's name, and a Mama here used the girl's name for a miscarried baby.  I feel like I lost both of them.  It makes me sad. 
 

[lilmom]

 to everyone! I haven't posted for a couple days, come back, and see how sad everybody is. I'm so sorry ladies.

milk8shake & monkeyscience - some dear friends of ours named one of their twins our boy name. However, I didn't feel too bad about it because they had been trying for over 2 years and finally got their twins on their 3rd IUI. So, I felt like if they wanted to use that name then so be it. For all I know, they have loved that name forever. That said, sorry your names are being used now! And monkey, what an awful night for you.

Rochelle, Stevi, & rcr - Again, I'm just so sorry.

objet_trouve - what a bummer to lose your friend! Unfortunately though, I guess there are times in life people don't agree with us and they just can't manage to agree to disagree and still be friends. I really hate when that happens. I lost a friend over vaccinations. I told her we did not vax DS and she basically said that was stupid and I was risking his life, etc. I gently suggested some books she might want to read about the subject and she basically never was my friend again. I learned my lesson though..some topics are best broached only when you know the other person is really open to hearing it. So disappointing.

I wish we could all get together for some drinks and desserts. In my case the drink would be tea though, since I'm not a drinker..but just to be with some good company would be nice. I've been really down the past couple of days. I just am so worried it is never going to happen. And we have so much stress in general. I think DH might lose his job. I just can't stand the idea of yet another financial setback for us. Sigh. I just really would like something good to happen. Very soon.

[LessTraveledBy]

So sorry, lilmom. That sounds very stressful.

I am still trying to figure out what we will do this summer. Mainly, whether we will take the trip to visit the in-laws and other relatives. Luckily, I could not really decide, even if I wanted to, as it is up to dh's schedule.... which, again, we don't know yet. I am just trying to figure out how to cope, to be honest, and spending time with a toddler and a newborn is not really part of that plan. Yet, most of the relatives have not seen dd since she was 3, 3 years ago. It is something so hard to try to find a balance between one's own emotions and everyone else's. How much more suffering should I be willing to take on for the good of others, that sort of thing. I think I would be much more comfortable going if I felt that I was going to be "left alone" a bit. However, people just don't get it, so I know I would need to be oh so excited about the kids of the relatives, as well as any and all babies born to mil's friends' kids. Yeah, I love children, but I really don't need to know about every kid on the planet. If I don't know the parents, could we just agree I don't need to hear about their baby... And then I feel selfish, again, as I know it must make mil happy to talk about them. I dunno...

[Sweet.Bee]

monkey,  It's so hard to be dealing with all the troubles of getting pregnant and be surrounded by reminders everywhere.

milk8shake, I also don't like sushi. But I seem to be in the minority. My husband's office has a sushi menu option everyday, and all the other spouses I meet inevitably say, "hey, did you know if you visit your husband for lunch, they have sushi all the time? That's so great!" I don't get the sushi craze, but granted I don't like seafood at all. 

lilmom, I also don't drink, so I'll have a cup of tea, too.  Sorry you're having a tough time. How are your cycles doing lately?

lesstraveledby, I try to avoid situations with babies and pregnant women when possible. It's hard because I run a playgroup and live in the fertility capital of the world (at least it feels like that sometimes). I think avoidance of those situations is easier for me than pretending to be lalala constantly around them. I hope you find a solution that works best for you.

As for me, I'm feeling really down. I'm 10DPO and saw this "pre-spotting" thing I get (very slightly tinged toilet paper but not definitively anything) this morning. Also feeling crampy, though we all have a stomach virus right now, so I threw up last night. Everything is feeling old and far too familiar nowadays, like I'm caught in a neverending cycle. I had the same throwing up thing at the end of the TWW before xmas.

And I'm still upset about the obgyn visit last week. My appointment with the specialist is at the end of May, and I'm worried it will be more of the same. Maybe it will be better, but it's hard not to worry. No doctors seem willing to give any drugs to help with ovulation around here because they're all too busy covering their own rear ends. All I've had so far are lectures about how dangerous the drugs are and how if I end up in the hospital, they will be to blame. Um, I thought that's why they monitor women on these drugs?

[monkeyscience]

Okay, I now have the letrezole, the dexamethasone, and a calendar! Now all I need is AF and we can get started! (Still on Provera, so not expecting AF till Sunday.)

Oh, and they mentioned at the RE today that they want me on progesterone supplements starting like... 3 DPO, or something? Umm... why didn't you mention this before? Although according to the nurse lady, they're really cheap. I wonder how important it really is that I take them, seeing as I don't have a diagnosed luteal phase defect. Part of me wants to do it, since it would be stupid to waste the whole cycle just because of a progesterone problem, but part of me is like... why extra hormones for no reason? I suddenly feel like I have not done enough research on several things. I'm leaning more toward the hCG shot, just because I don't have time to weigh the pros and cons, and they already ordered it for me at the doctor's today. :P That's going to be probably $100-$200.

On the plus side, the baseline ultrasound was clear of cysts, and I got my letrezole for $10 through Femara Cares, so that wasn't a major expense. Also, dh told me at the RE's office that his plan was to have sex 3-4x a day for the 3-4 days after the hCG trigger. I was like... umm... when will we have time for that? And, uh, won't you run out of sperm?? He said he'd heard he could take papaya to help him have more "stuff." I was both extremely amused and touched that he cared so much. I love having him totally on board with this process.

Anyway, now I have absolutely nothing to do but obsess for the next 6 days. And stare at the calendar which says I should get my beta done the day before Mother's Day.

[lilmom]

SweetBee - I'm sorry you're feeling so down. Maybe the docs around there *don't* monitor women on the drugs and that's why they're so hesitant to prescribe them??!!? I know that is true in my current location. I am on a quest to try to find one ob.gyn in this town who will monitor me while giving me clomid. I don't know if it is going to happen. As for my cycle, well, acupuncture did get me to ovulate so I got the last one over with finally, and now this cycle I do seem to have slightly higher pre-O temps going on right now. I'm on CD18, no O yet, which of course is not surprising to me in the least. We'll see what happens. It really stinks that I had to quit acupuncture after finally finding someone who could do it here. So, like i said, just on a quest for a new ob/gyn right now....Oh yes, and I really, really hate sushi too. I love all other types of seafood though, and could eat seafood every day easily. But not raw seafood. So no sushi or oysters for me. Ick. I have the bitter thing down though, sadly.

LTB - If it were me, I would probably feel guilty that relatives had not seen my child in 3 yrs and that would probably be a huge factor for me, and I would do my best to just find some time to be alone during the visit, if that was possible. Right now, though, I do really well seeing most babies and toddlers. It's seeing pregnant women that bothers me most. Occasionally I have trouble with little babies, but that's really only when I am feeling a very strong sense of unfairness..the whole, "why does that family get to have yet another baby they don't care much for" syndrome. That sort of thing. So, maybe I am not a good person to suggest anything, since it seems that even just seeing the little ones is so difficult for you right now. I wish it wasn't! I am so sorry! At least you don't have to be the one deciding now. I know it is so hard when other people just don't get it at all.

monkey-  your DH sounds so cute! And I would totally be obsessing too in your shoes. I know you are so excited to get things started!! Hooray!

AFM, I am so happy to be going to the allergist tomorrow. I am praying they can really help me, because these seasonal allergies are really killing me this year. I want to be able to go out of the house without having to use my inhaler! Still worried about how whatever they may give me will affect ttc though. We are also downsizing to a smaller place in a few weeks, and I'm feeling stress over that. Good grief, I am one big ball of stress right now, and this cannot be healthy. Hopefully tomorrow's appt will go well and then I can get back down to business on finding a new ob.gyn.

[LessTraveledBy]

Originally Posted by Sweet.Bee 

lesstraveledby, I try to avoid situations with babies and pregnant women when possible. It's hard because I run a playgroup and live in the fertility capital of the world (at least it feels like that sometimes). I think avoidance of those situations is easier for me than pretending to be lalala constantly around them. I hope you find a solution that works best for you.

As for me, I'm feeling really down. I'm 10DPO and saw this "pre-spotting" thing I get (very slightly tinged toilet paper but not definitively anything) this morning. Also feeling crampy, though we all have a stomach virus right now, so I threw up last night. Everything is feeling old and far too familiar nowadays, like I'm caught in a neverending cycle. I had the same throwing up thing at the end of the TWW before xmas.

Sweetbee, I also made the "mistake" of starting a playgroup years ago. I had to stop going, though, as we met far away, when I was too sich and tired due to my thyroid trouble. That was around the same time that basically everyone in the group had their 2nd child, while all the firsts were younger than our dd. So... I am glad I started the group, but had I known, I doubt that I would have. It was rough, as it felt like someone was announcing a pregnancy every single time I went there.

I know the hopeless feeling... I used to cramp throughout the TWW and it was really frustrating to feel like it was more of the same. I used progesterone cream for two or threee cycles, and the cramping never came back after that.

Hope you will feel better soon!

Originally Posted by monkeyscience 

Oh, and they mentioned at the RE today that they want me on progesterone supplements starting like... 3 DPO, or something?

TBH, I would find the progesterone to be among the "lighter" things, as you already on other stuff. But I think people here can tell you more about it... sounds like it is a common practice to add that, just in case.
 

Originally Posted by lilmom 

LTB - If it were me, I would probably feel guilty that relatives had not seen my child in 3 yrs and that would probably be a huge factor for me, and I would do my best to just find some time to be alone during the visit, if that was possible. Right now, though, I do really well seeing most babies and toddlers. It's seeing pregnant women that bothers me most. Occasionally I have trouble with little babies, but that's really only when I am feeling a very strong sense of unfairness..the whole, "why does that family get to have yet another baby they don't care much for" syndrome. That sort of thing. So, maybe I am not a good person to suggest anything, since it seems that even just seeing the little ones is so difficult for you right now. I wish it wasn't! I am so sorry! At least you don't have to be the one deciding now. I know it is so hard when other people just don't get it at all.

The thing is that it is only dh's two grandparents that I am thinking of, and only one of them would really care to see her, anyway. Parents have traveled here and thus have seen dd, and the rest of the family we are not really in touch with at all, so I don't find it a big deal whether they see her and she sees them or not. It is this whole "happy family game" of mils that really bothers me. IMO, she should just face the fact that people in her family are just not close and don't care whether they see each other or not. Having her grandkids (our 6 yo, a then 2 yo and a baby) under the same roof will do nothing other than give her some "Kodak moments." Honestly, if we go there, she will pressure this other family into flying there at the same time. Then all that will really happen is that she will have less time than normal for each pf the grandkids, and there will be a long gap again until she sees any of them. I just don't really get it. I am contemplating once again whether I should give her a bit more information about our situation and try to try to explain that things are sometimes very rough (even for dh, I think). I just have a feeling that I would get badly burned if I told her. She tends to care more about telling her friends (her version of things, yet) than thinking of the other person. Granted it was many, many yeard ago.... But she has done some amazingly terrible things to dh when he was a kid, just because she wanted to share everything with her friends. (I won't go into detail but I feel like throwing up of crying when I think of it.)

[Emaya]

LTB - why not send DD and DH together and come up with an excuse for yourself? It can be proper daddy-daughter bonding time, and you can have other plans already made ages ago ('old college friend coming to visit'/'going to visit an old friend'/'just not feeling up to travelling'/etc. 'An old friend suddenly needs your support' works in a pinch). I don't like telling straight up lies like that (and I've only needed to fall back on it a couple times), but sometimes I just don't feel social (whether it's with friends or family -- and I LOVE my in-laws), and it's better for everyone if I have cozy time at home alone with a book and a plate of black bean nachos. 

lillmom - good luck tomorrow with the allergist! There's an interesting (and kind of gross) story on This American Life about allergies and a certain parasite that we lack in developed countries (folks generally don't suffer from allergies at the same rate that we do in developing countries...):http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/404/enemy-camp-2010 It's a great radio show; one can listen to streaming episodes for free from their radio archive.

Monkeyscience - goodness, what a nail-biter of a wait. Good luck to you. As far as progesteron, my doctor gave inserts to me as a sort of "hey, try this, it can't hurt." I followed instructions for one cyle, it didn't change my cycle. But I didn't bother the next time (they were so darn MESSY, eew).The very next cycle, I had spotting throughout, from CD 8 (three days after my period was good and gone) until AF came. That's very sweet that your dh is ready to go all out. But 3-4 times a day? Mercy! 

All you sushi haters: Maybe you've just not been served really GOOD sushi before. I LOVE raw fish (lucky thing, since living in Sweden brings a lot of it my way), but there are tons of varieties without raw fish. My husband makes sushi quite often and it is divine. 

AFM: 7 days since my + opk and I'm not mustering the slightest symptom yet, imagined or otherwise. Got in some good BD, but my focus is on getting all our papers together for adoption. Unexplained infertility is such a strange place to be. I made the mistake of complaining to the doctor after the last of the exhaustive tests came back as normal or excellent, and she snapped at me to be grateful that everything looks good, that women with insurmountable infertility issues would love to have the hope that I have (being declared healthy, and having a biological child proving that things worked once). I felt very stupid and insensitive. But still, unexplained seems so unacceptable, considering what medical science can do...

[Kyamo]

monkeyscience - It must feel good to at least finally have a plan of action.  How much monitoring are you going to have for this cycle?  Good luck!

[LessTraveledBy]

Originally Posted by Emaya 

LTB - why not send DD and DH together and come up with an excuse for yourself?

AFM: Unexplained infertility is such a strange place to be. I made the mistake of complaining to the doctor after the last of the exhaustive tests came back as normal or excellent, and she snapped at me to be grateful that everything looks good, that women with insurmountable infertility issues would love to have the hope that I have (being declared healthy, and having a biological child proving that things worked once). I felt very stupid and insensitive. But still, unexplained seems so unacceptable, considering what medical science can do...

Emaya... It would be a 3 week trip, minimum, and to the other side of the world. And if I was not there, dh would probably never talk to the family again. (At least I like to think I balance things a bit in the interaction, so it does not escalate too much.) ;) If it were a day somewhere, that's one thing, but we have not spent more than two nights apart at a time since getting married, and dd has never been away from us for a night. Doesn't sounds like any of us plan to change that any time soon, so it is all or no one.

About unexplained infertility: Yes, it is strange. That hope one could get from having had a child and not knowing anything is wrong does not do much good when years go by and nothing happens, and you have nothing to try to fix. Meanwhile, it is hard to truly move on, either, and some places don't even let you adopt unless you have been declared infertile. (Though I suppose unexplained infertility must be enough.. or the years of evidence or something). I, for one, hope that they will find something wrong with us. I really don't want to think of being in this situation for another 10 years. Our adoption hopes right now are being ridiculed more than anything else, so I am hoping that a known cause for our infertility might change that a bit.

Wishing you all lots of hope this week!

[Emaya]

That's right, I forgot your DH was from the other side of the pond. I couldn't ever be away from DD that long either... 

[monkeyscience]

Thanks for all the good wishes!

Kyamo - Not too much monitoring. Baseline ultrasound this past week just to rule out cysts, and then an ultrasound CD 12 to confirm that follicles have developed (but not too many!). That should pretty much be it.

Emaya - I think that's a completely bizarre thing to say... I would NOT feel better knowing my infertility was utterly inexplicable. It leaves you with no idea where to turn. Yeah, a diagnosis that you were, say, lacking ovaries would SUCK, and totally kill any chance of conceiving a biological child, but at least you could move on knowing that door was firmly shut. But it seems to me that, for just about any infertility diagnosis, there's always that one story of someone who somehow, totally randomly, got pregnant anyway. So I don't see that your situation is a lot different, except having NO IDEA what's going on. Then again, maybe my problem is that I have a pathological fear of the dark, and that's where you're at with regards to infertility... in the dark!

[Milk8shake]

Originally Posted by Sweet.Bee 

milk8shake, I also don't like sushi. But I seem to be in the minority. My husband's office has a sushi menu option everyday, and all the other spouses I meet inevitably say, "hey, did you know if you visit your husband for lunch, they have sushi all the time? That's so great!" I don't get the sushi craze, but granted I don't like seafood at all. 

Yeah, everyone I know has the sushi craze.  Even people who are ridiculously fussy about food usually.  I hate being forced to sit with/near someone who is eating sushi!! Or tuna!! UGH

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emaya 

All you sushi haters: Maybe you've just not been served really GOOD sushi before. I LOVE raw fish (lucky thing, since living in Sweden brings a lot of it my way), but there are tons of varieties without raw fish. My husband makes sushi quite often and it is divine.

I wouldn't eat the raw fish one anyway, because I am a vegetarian - but my problem with sushi is not the filling, it's the seaweed.  It reeks!  At an engagement party last year, the hosts (being ever so thoughtfully aware of my vego status) made sushi for me as the entree.  I felt so obligated to eat it, because it was lovely of them to make a special meal for me, but when I tried, it just made me gag.  I fed it to the dog, and told them it was delicious!

Also, your doctor sounds like a bitch.  I don't think it is insensitive at all.  I know that for each and every test that I have had - I have hoped that there would be something clearly wrong, and therefore provide something to specifically target to "fix".  I agree that there are indeed some diagnoses that would be devastating to have - but at the end of the day, I feel that the definition would make it easier to deal with.  I hate that my condition gives no definition.  There is not enough research to know what the exact links are between it and RPL.  No single doctor (and I've seen plenty) will give me any odds on the chance of a successful pregnancy.  I find it really hard that it my decision to keep putting myself through the pregnant/miscarry/pregnant/miscarry cycle.

I can't help wondering to myself what the magic number is?  I mean, how many miscarriages is too many?  I'm putting myself out there for a fourth time, and I can't help wondering - if it doesn't work this time, will I try a fifth time?  When does the quest for a baby get ridiculous.  The problem is that most people I know here, and IRL who suffer from RPL, all have at least one child - so the equation is not the same for them...

Anyway,  you are not alone in hoping for answers.  Tell your doctor to shut her trap.

[AGreenMum10]

At 14 DPO.... I started my AF.... Bummer... And on the same date I decided to schedule a

hysteropingogram test, Anyone have any experience with this?  This is my First Fertility based test... hoping it's the only.... But I'm going in to see in I have a septum in my uterus or some sort of divider... Hoping I don't but it would shed some light if I do... It's next Monday at 8am... Cross fingers and Toes for me... CD 6 today and you have to have the test done between CD 5 and 11 so mine will be done on the 11th day....

PS to comment on the the stuff earlier about sushi... I LOVE IT, I also live in an area that has access to one of the most amazing coast in the world, and I can all the Fresh Seafood I want... My DH works at the most sot after fish market in the US, So I'm a bit spoiled... Love him.... Ummmm maybe fish tonight... my favorite, Hiramasa, White fish that's sweet and yummy! Great on the grill!!!!! OUTSIDE!

Today is the first day it finally feels like Spring!!! I'm Feeling Twitterpated.... (from Bambi... remember??)  How about you all!! How's your seasons coming???

Iilmom hope the allergy stuff is good.... I went Gluten Free because of Allergies a few years ago having to do with My endometrioses.... it's not fun...

Kyamo- Can I be added? Trying since Nov 2009 , 1 ectopic - down a tube (may 2010), 2 Losses (Aug 2010 & Jan 2011) Let me know if you need anything else, I check BBT and CM daily...

E- Gardening planning has begun!! I'm so excited to make some plants grow!!

[Emaya]

Thanks all, for validating my hurt feelings about being told off when I expressed sadness/confusion at all the perfect test results. This really is the place to come for understanding on these matters. It does feel like being in the dark, monkeyscience. And I hear your frustration about not getting the tiniest little clue from any doctor about your chances, Milk8shake. We've been to three doctors. The first one said, it takes normal fertile couples under a year to get pregnant, but for 2 out of 10 couples who get pregnant, it takes them two years. The second doctor said, if you have been timing sex correctly, and you're not pregnant in less than a year, there's a major issue. And the third said, if everything tests well, there may be no issue at all even after a year, and you'll probably get pregnant again someday, no problem, just be patient. None of them know anything, because they treat people, fail, and never hear from them again (I certainly wouldn't take the time to call up those three doctors should I get pregnant), so there aren't any reliable, grand-scale statistics I suppose.

Milk8shake, you are in such a tough position, lucky thing you sound like a tough cookie (I enjoyed you calling my doctor a bitch, well at least that she sounded like one ). I'm sure you've had close friends (or whoever you've chosen to tell about your RPL) tell you all kinds of stories about their aunt/friend/mom/cousin/etc. who had 5/8/11 MCs before having a healthy one, so I will refrain, even though I have two of those stories as well. Of course there's no answer to that question -- what the magic number is, how long to try -- it's an impossible question, isn't it.

Greenmum - I had an HSG, which is the same exam. It was no problem. I took an couple ibprofins half and hour before hand, and did my yoga breathing, concentrating on relaxing every muscle in my body, and I hardly felt it. It was cool to see my insides. That said, some women have found it excruciating, so I was quite nervous. It seems like one of those weird things where different people have completely different experiences. First real feeling of Spring over here too! Had windows open all day (at home with a terribly sick daughter). No planting plans yet. On our way to move to a new house in two weeks, so other things will take the forefront for a while.

[Laggie]

The HSG was easy for me too, but is it the same test? hysterosalpingogram? If it's your first test then it is probably the same - but I thought it was just used to make sure your tubes are clear? I guess they do get some info on the uterus in general. I have a hysterosonogram tomorrow, which I'm told is for the purpose of examining the shape of my uterus to make sure it is normal. The two sound so similar to me I keep getting confused about whether this is a new test or the same one I already had. I don't know why my brain just shuts down as soon as the fertility clinic people start talking to me.

As for sushi, I love love love it. Well, as long as it isn't sea urchin. My mom has the aversion to the seaweed smell too, I don't get it... we eat seaweed for a snack at my house and it disappears instantly!

[lavatea]

Hey all. I've been reading along without much to post. Thursday was the one year anniversary of m/c #2. It slipped by without much notice, which I think was a good thing. I had seen it on the calendar and was dreading it, but I guess I got busy at work or whatever and forgot on the actual day. I would have liked to have had a celebration of sorts for that baby, but the kids were gone and DH wouldn't "get it" anyway. Kids were gone for anniversary of m/c #1, too, so in a way this sort of made them the same. Only one more "one year" anniversary to get through, and it's not until June. Maybe I'll be pg by then (doubtful).

On the subject of how many m/cs to go through...I don't have an answer. I change my mind all the time. And I do have two other kids, so I guess that changes my equation a bit, but I want another one so badly that for me it's almost as if I don't have any others (as far as the almost insane need to have a baby). I almost think I'll torture myself all the way to menopause, but IDK. DH may not last that long. He's very month-to-month on-and-off as it is.

I've only been temping on and off, but my temp is steadily climbing. I go to nights tonight. So I have no idea how that will screw up charting. I only have about 4 or 5 days of this cycle left anyway. So I guess maybe I'll have tested by this time next week?? Or won't have needed to.

Well, I'm off again. I have a ton to get done in preparation for leaving for work and having the kids ready for in the morning. Nervous if this is all going to work out. I guess we'll see how the family adjusts.

[Kyamo]

Sushi - I like the vegetarian ones.  I'm allergic to fish, so I'm afraid to eat in Japanese restaurants since fish is in almost everything.  So I really only eat it at this one vegan restaurant that has sushi.  (I'm not vegetarian, but since the restaurant is vegan there's no fish in the building to be afraid of.)  
 

Originally Posted by AGreenMum10 

Kyamo- Can I be added? Trying since Nov 2009 , 1 ectopic - down a tube (may 2010), 2 Losses (Aug 2010 & Jan 2011) Let me know if you need anything else, I check BBT and CM daily...

AGreenMum - Welcome, and sorry about AF.  I've added you, I don't need anything else unless you want me to add a link to your chart.    

Lavatea - I hope the shift transition goes well.  I know it's hard working weird hours.  

AFM - I am on CD10 I think, so my IUI should be in less than a week, depending on when the follicles are ready.  Next US tomorrow.  

I was just thinking, if this cycle doesn't work, soon it will be weather to sometimes wear short sleeves.  Last summer I hadn't started IUIs yet.  Are people going to think I'm a druggie or something because of the elbow marks from daily blood tests?  I don't even know if that would look the same or not.  Am I being dumb to even think of that?