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LTB - now with that information I understand better why you don't want to go on the trip. I wouldn't either! Nor would I want to be away from DS for that long either.

 

GreenMum - I hope the test goes well and is painless! Also, I tried going gluten free for several months last year and it did nothing, absolutely nothing for me. So, I added gluten back in, just not too much. I still don't eat much of it, especially at home. I do sometimes when we go out. Sorry about AF too!!

 

Lavatea - hug2.gif

 

Emaya - For some reason I couldn't get the link to work about the parasite. But that is very, very interesting (and gross too!)

 

AFM - I was a little disappointed in the allergy doctor. I guess this is just a continuous theme for me, to be disappointed in doctor visits! He put me on a nasal spray and an asthma medication for 6 weeks. He said he won't do allergy testing until I at least try these medications for 6 weeks. So today is day 2, and zero change. I really hope it just takes a while for them to reach a certain level where they will work, because 6 weeks sounds like eternity right now. Especially since we are moving in just a couple weeks to a new place. We really did not want to move again within our little horrible town, but since DH hasn't found a job elsewhere, and we can't afford to stay in the house we're in, we really don't have a choice. All of this, the allergies and having to take meds, and moving, and DH's lack of any job leads, all of it makes me feel like I don't know if I should even be pursuing meds for ttc. But, I don't have the luxury of waiting either at this age. So, there I am. I guess all I can do is focus on getting as healthy as I can. Hopefully the meds will help the asthma/allergies and I can start working out and try to lose a little weight. Sigh. I just feel so depressed. Sorry for complaining so much. I just feel overwhelmed right now. I hate feeling like I am a sickly person, but that's where I'm at right now, and I hate it. Ah well, I guess I will keep on going, trying to find a new doc etc. Anyway, about the allergy doctor, I know that is a more conservative approach, so I should be grateful I guess, but it is just frustrating to not be feeling any better yet. But maybe it will still happen. I gotta hold on to hope, right?

 

 

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At 14 DPO.... I started my AF.... Bummer... And on the same date I decided to schedule a

hysteropingogram test, Anyone have any experience with this? 

Yep, had it - as the others said - nothing much to worry about.  A couple of ibuprofen will do the trick - it's just a bit crampy like AF.  Generally speaking, the women who have a great deal of pain with this procedure, are those who actually have a blockage of some sort.

Also - I don't know if there is statistics to back this up, but with people I know (online & IRL) - there is a real increase of conception in the cycles following the HSG, even if nothing is found.  It's a bit like "cleaning out the pipes" for want of a better explanation.  I've even known women to request this specifically for that purpose.  Good luck anyway, I'm just waffling now!!

 

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Milk8shake, you are in such a tough position, lucky thing you sound like a tough cookie (I enjoyed you calling my doctor a bitch, well at least that she sounded like one winky.gif). I'm sure you've had close friends (or whoever you've chosen to tell about your RPL) tell you all kinds of stories about their aunt/friend/mom/cousin/etc. who had 5/8/11 MCs before having a healthy one, so I will refrain, even though I have two of those stories as well. Of course there's no answer to that question -- what the magic number is, how long to try -- it's an impossible question, isn't it.

Haha! I hope that cheered you up some.  Doctors can be so arrogant sometimes.  Yes - people tell me stories.  And I totally get why they do it. I know they don't do it to piss me off - but man, it makes me cranky! In those cases, I usually end up being all up in their face, throwing numbers at them, and probably make them feel worse than I do.  But every now and then, I'd just like someone to agree with me, or admit that having an (almost) complete lack of hope is understandable.  People have trouble dealing with the idea that the numbers are not on my side, and that the chances of failure are higher than the chances of success.

 

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AFM - I was a little disappointed in the allergy doctor. I guess this is just a continuous theme for me, to be disappointed in doctor visits! He put me on a nasal spray and an asthma medication for 6 weeks. He said he won't do allergy testing until I at least try these medications for 6 weeks. 

I hate feeling like I am a sickly person, but that's where I'm at right now, and I hate it.


I can't remember what you are having trouble with, but I am one of those itchy eyes, sneezing, wheezing, random rash kind of people.  I had the full panel of allergy tests years and years ago - and it showed nothing.  None of the bloomin' antihistimines do anything for me either.  It's frustrating.  I can't even walk down the laundry aisle at the supermarket with out getting itchy/sneezy/etc. 

 

I tend to be a sickly sort of person too.  I mean, rarely anything serious, but almost constantly a complaint of some sort.  It is crap.  I feel you.  Good luck with the meds. 

 

AFM: CD 20 - I felt really nauseated today.  Weird.  I don't think we were very well timed this month, unfortunately.

 

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My fertilityfriend account seems to think I may have just ovulated a couple days ago. Until I see a positive preg test or a period, I remain skeptical, but at least it's got me charting CM. Hey, if I am ovulating this soon after starting Vitex (little over a month now?) and with this few cramps (as in none) and crazy emotional issues (relatively stable all things considered), I'm going to be pretty darned excited.
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Ugh! I hate sushi - I cannot put anything in my mouth that smells that bad! Hahah
 

Ouch - That just plain sucks.  I feel your pain.  Actually, I was wondering if anyone else kind of felt like "their" names had been "stolen" out from under them?  When I was pregnant the first time, I had a boy's name and a girl's name picked out.  I was so excited about how special they were, and how they were "ours".  Since then, my cousin has named his dog the boy's name, and a Mama here used the girl's name for a miscarried baby.  I feel like I lost both of them.  It makes me sad. 
 


 

OOOH I know how you feel, my SIL is now using the 2 of my names, one for the babies 1st name and for the middle name!! He's the real kicker, she has a 15 month old and she due with the next on June 5th..... Grrrrr..... Nothing wrong with having them close together but she decided to tell me that "they were offically TRYING" the Week after I misscarried this summer.... Slap.... Then she steals my names... I didn't think I told her one but one of them I totally told her was my name, thankfully it's the middle name of my new nephew... She's unbelievable.... She is on a ONE track to compete with me.... She wanted a Girl and told me if this was a girl that they would be happy... So it's a boy your not going to be happy.... HOW ABOUT HEALTHY BABY, BE HAPPY! GOSH! Sorry I'm done being negative

 

So to answer your questions from early about the test (HSG Histopngram thingy) is the one where they inject dye in your uterus/cervex while taking a real time X-ray and they can see the tube(s), the curvex and the contors. Normally this is use to see the tube are clear but he is using the same test to confirm if my uterus has a divider.... Praying that nothing is found and I am normal... Just having some bad luck that will be over soon.... Find out Monday I will keep you all posted...

 

Feeling sick today, Cold systems, tired, running nose, cough etc.... Had a big temp spike... guessing that it's not an O but who knows... I'm all over the place.... I'm heading home after work to SLEEP!

 

 

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Lilmom - I think most nasal sprays take at least 3 weeks to reach their full potential in treating your symptoms.  I wouldn't expect to feel any difference yet.  Not sure about the asthma med, since there are a few different categories and they work differently.  Although if it is an inhaled corticosteroid I wouldn't expect full effect for a few weeks either.  Btw, I'm not a doctor or anything, just someone whose had allergy/asthma issues and been on a variety of the allergy/asthma meds over the years.  Also, don't know if he told you any non-medical ways to help, but an air purifier can make a huge difference, particularly at night.  Hope that helps.  Mainly I would say to not be discouraged at all that you don't feel a chance on Day2... that's normal.

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OOOH I know how you feel, my SIL is now using the 2 of my names, one for the babies 1st name and for the middle name!! 

 



Sorry she ended up using your name.  Am I the only one that doesn't have names picked out?  I do have a notepad file where I toss in names I like when I hear them, so I'll have something to work from, but that's it.  I guess I feel my favourites will change around with time, plus I want DH involved in the decision at the time, so I don't want my heart set on one.  Also, what if I never get pregnant?

 

I have some good news though.  My lining is at 13mm today!  I had 5mm on clomid, so I'm really happy switching to letrozole seems to have helped.  IUI will be saturday.  

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I had some favorite names picked out for a long time that I thought I'd give my children (back when having children was a given). Some of those DH liked, some of them he didn't. We had a document saved on the computer during the final trimester where we tallied up all the boy and girl names that we both liked (we didn't know which gender the baby would have, but my female intuition was very clear about it being a boy. Boy was I surprised). But once we ended up taking a look at the lovely wrinkly little thing in my arms, they all flew out the window and my husband and I started from scratch at the birthing center. We decided on my paternal grandmother's name. It's old fashioned, but fit the little-old-lady-looking thing we made.

 

 


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About what I said earlier....seems I spoke too soon. AF today smile.gif The Vitex IS making me O! I'm becoming such a fan. Great stuff so far!
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Kyamo - Yay!! So glad your lining looks good! Praying this is your cycle. (And mine, so we can be in a DDC together!)

 

objet - Glad you ovulated! Hopefully the next time you can convince that egg to become a zygote!

 

As far as baby names... well, I started picking them when I was like... 12? And then last year on Father's Day dh and I spent a good part of church services writing name ideas back and forth to each other, getting each other's input. We have about 9 first and middle name combos from that. (Little did we know we were so far from using any of them!) The boy name we like came up in a random discussion sometime after we got engaged.

 

AFM... AF paid me a surprise visit this afternoon! The last two times I've taken Provera, I've gotten my period 5 days after stopping the medication. Today is only day 2 of no medicine. So that threw my envisioned schedule for a loop! On the plus side, it means we'll get down to business sooner, and I'm that much closer to knowing if this is going to work, but I'm also kind of... whaaaat? I guess my body feels the constant need to remind me who is really in charge here.

 

Also, I spent 3+ hours standing mostly in one place on bare concrete floors trying to get the paperwork straight for my students' science fair entries. My feet are KILLING me. Add cramps to that, and I'd really, really like to not go to school tomorrow. Oh, and did I mention grades are due? At least having all of this behind me should get the stress off my back for a little while! One more grading period to go!

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I'm not sure I've known anyone who's used or wants to use the names we come up with. Probably because we're weird and tend to like names that haven't been used much in like a hundred years. Our poor children are just going to have to deal with it. smile.gif
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Kyamo! Great news!!! Bring it on IUI!!!!

 

Objet_trouve! Also great news! Sounds like vitex is really working for you, which is fantastic!

 

jennabella - Thanks for the words of encouragement about the allergy meds. I appreciate it. I was looking around on the internet last night and came to that conclusion too, but it's still pretty annoying, considering that the one time in my life I took Flonase before (about 10 yrs ago?) it worked immediately and helped me to feel better. I'm taking Singulair for the asthma, so I'm sure that one won't kick in for weeks. It would be nice if it did though!

 

GreenMum - I am so sorry you are dealing with that nonsense from your SIL! Sounds really frustrating. On a positive note though, I too know people who had the HSG and even though it showed nothing they got pregnant right after because it "cleared the pathway" so to speak. So, this could be a really great thing for you. I hope so.

 

milk8shake - I'm sorry to hear you've had to put up with all this sickly business too. Actually, in my case, I was super, super healthy in my 20's. It's just been in the past couple of years that I feel like I am constantly having something wrong. Ugh! It IS crap. Since we moved to West Texas (aka the bane of my existence, as I am an East Texas girl and they are like 2 different countries..) I have had sneezing, coughing, itchy eyes, sinus issues, an almost constant headache, and now just in the past month or so, asthma. Not good. I am holding on to the hope that sometime soon DH will get a new job elsewhere.

 

monkey- gotta love surprise AF. But at least, like you said, getting down to business sooner is a good thing! Good luck!!

 

Also, Kyamo, you are not the only one who does not have names picked out. We don't. When I was pregnant with DS, we had a terrible time deciding and never came up with a girl name, so we have never had a girl name we agreed on. We kind of liked Katie but we became aquainted with one that really ruined the name for us. We probably didn't decide on DS's name until about 6-7 months along. And we don't have names picked out for future children. I think about it alot, but I sort of feel strange talking about it unless we actually do manage to conceive again. And honestly, we have a last name that rules out alot of names because they just don't go, and I don't like anything that's too trendy, and DH doesn't like anything that is too unusual..so it's hard. Anyway, the point is, you are not the only one.

 

I think I would be so furious if I told someone my name that I wanted and then they used it for themselves. I guess that's one advantage of not having them picked out ahead of time.

 

Objet I love traditional names and I am sure your future kids will have lovely names!

 

 

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OOOH I know how you feel, my SIL is now using the 2 of my names, one for the babies 1st name and for the middle name!! He's the real kicker, she has a 15 month old and she due with the next on June 5th..... Grrrrr.....

Ugh! I will say, though, that it is best never to discuss the names you like. There are quite a few thread on MDC about "stolen" names. The trouble is that even if the other person had thought of that name first, you might now know it and might feel the name should have been yours. However, since you had told SIL about liking that name, I would no have no problem using the name if I were you. I mean how often are middle names used, anyway, when speaking or something. It would bother me to have two people by the same first name in the family, but someone's middle name would not bother me.
 

This may sound strange, but I think you sil may be in need of lots of support, soon. While I think she sounds totally clueless about your pain (or cruel, hopefully clueless), motherhood will probably not be a walk in the park with two so little. As much as I would like more children, I would never want them 1,5 years apart. (Feel free to disagree, I won't go into detail as I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings.) My sil has that spacing, and she is having a hard time due to both kids being up at night all the time. To me anything under 2 is a baby, basically... and needs constant carrying, nursing, etc. Twins are one thing, of course.

 

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Am I the only one that doesn't have names picked out?

 

We had a list but I don't name anyone before seeing the person. Dd was named after birth, which seemed to be surprising to the nurses. It seemed they were used to being able to write the baby's name on the bed right away.
 

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About what I said earlier....seems I spoke too soon. AF today smile.gif The Vitex IS making me O! I'm becoming such a fan. Great stuff so far!


Great! Vitex can really go either way and no one kinows what will happen until trying. So happy it is working for you!

 

Nothing new here. Waiting to O and browsing adoption sites. At least I can learn as much as possible...

 

We met with some friends yesterday and I realized something: I had been blaming myself, feeling like I don't like some kids of a friend because they remind me of the time their mom was pregnant with them. However, I just adore the son of the friend I saw yesterday and he is the same age as the child I find annoying. So.. While it is still my problem, not the problem of a 2 yo, it seems the reasons are different than I thought. Mainly, I think it is a matter of parenting. The friend I saw yesterday is a wonderful mom and her child really reflects that. The other mom is forceful and does not take the child's emotions into account much and that child also seemed to be the product of the upbringing. I guess I feel a bit relieved, as I feel like I am, after all, able to really like other people's little ones. 

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Hi all just wanted to chime in on the names thing.  When I was pregnant with dd dh and I both made lists of girls and boys (not many boys names, it seems we couldn't really come up with any we liked).  Anyways, we kept those lists top secret!!  I'd have been upset if someone 'stole' one of our names.  Anyways, we narrowed down both lists but did not pick one until we saw dd, like LTB we didn't name her until we saw her - had to make sure that the name fit!!  Before being pregnant that time I didn't think about names but this time around I think about it a lot - just as I obsess about every aspect of ttc and having another baby. 

 

Objet - Glad the vitex is working!!

 

Monkey - yeah for AF!!!!  Time to move on!

 

AFM - still no AF - if she doesn't show by Monday I will have missed three periods.  I have been self diagnosing myself using Dr. Google, for some reason dh doesn't want to hear about it and wants me to stop but I can't stop.  I am afraid that I have premature ovarian failure, I have the missing periods, hot flashes, growing irritability, and I have had pelvic surgery which according to Dr. Google can increase the chances of developing this, and my mom hit menopause in her early 40's.  So that is my self diagnosis which dh understandably wants to hear nothing about.  I see the doctor again in 2 weeks if af does not show, and then he will try and figure out what is going on with my body.  If it is something that means that it is impossible for me to have another child I will be devastated.  Right now I live off of the hope and I don't know what I will do if that is taken away.

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Sorry she ended up using your name.  Am I the only one that doesn't have names picked out?  I do have a notepad file where I toss in names I like when I hear them, so I'll have something to work from, but that's it.  I guess I feel my favourites will change around with time, plus I want DH involved in the decision at the time, so I don't want my heart set on one.  Also, what if I never get pregnant?

 

I have some good news though.  My lining is at 13mm today!  I had 5mm on clomid, so I'm really happy switching to letrozole seems to have helped.  IUI will be saturday.  


 

Good luck tomorrow!!!!
 

 

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I totally agree with having to see if the name 'fits' the baby. We have our list, which means we have multiple ideas to choose from, but who knows... we might throw that out the window when we actually have a LO. I have known people who named their babies as soon as they found out the gender, and I just find it... weird. But that's me.

 

As far as family names: I have a great-uncle, uncle, and brother who all have the same name, and I always thought that was cool. I kind of want to use that name for one of my kids, just to keep the tradition going, but some of my brothers think it's not my 'right'. (Not sure if it's because he wouldn't carry the family last name, or if they think the same-named brother should be able to name his kid that... but that isn't the tradition!!) And while I probably wouldn't give my kid the same first name as one of my siblings had, I also realize that you end up related to all sorts of people that you have no say in naming. My SIL's SIL (her brother's wife) has her same name, and her BIL has the same name as my husband (but spelled differently).

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Hi all just wanted to chime in on the names thing.  When I was pregnant with dd dh and I both made lists of girls and boys (not many boys names, it seems we couldn't really come up with any we liked).  Anyways, we kept those lists top secret!!  I'd have been upset if someone 'stole' one of our names.  Anyways, we narrowed down both lists but did not pick one until we saw dd, like LTB we didn't name her until we saw her - had to make sure that the name fit!!  Before being pregnant that time I didn't think about names but this time around I think about it a lot - just as I obsess about every aspect of ttc and having another baby. 

 

Objet - Glad the vitex is working!!

 

Monkey - yeah for AF!!!!  Time to move on!

 

AFM - still no AF - if she doesn't show by Monday I will have missed three periods.  I have been self diagnosing myself using Dr. Google, for some reason dh doesn't want to hear about it and wants me to stop but I can't stop.  I am afraid that I have premature ovarian failure, I have the missing periods, hot flashes, growing irritability, and I have had pelvic surgery which according to Dr. Google can increase the chances of developing this, and my mom hit menopause in her early 40's.  So that is my self diagnosis which dh understandably wants to hear nothing about.  I see the doctor again in 2 weeks if af does not show, and then he will try and figure out what is going on with my body.  If it is something that means that it is impossible for me to have another child I will be devastated.  Right now I live off of the hope and I don't know what I will do if that is taken away.



Oh, Smiles, I sure hope you're just having a problem that is temporary. Hang in there. I know it's totally impossible to stop googling! I always have this same fear, everytime I have a super long cycle. I get so scared because my mom had to have a total hysterectomy at 36, and I'm 35. So, obviously I am in a panic pretty much all the time over ttc.

 

I'm sure your DH is trying to be supportive and help you not be stressed. My DH says the same thing "quit googling!" But it is so difficult when you can't get a doc to listen to you. Anyway, huge hugs to you right now. Hang on to that hope! At least if AF doesn't show in the next 2 weeks you can get the doc to at least look at you.

 

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I cannot sleep tonight, and I don't know why. (It is 4 AM here.) Too bad it's usually slow on the weekends... that's when I actually have time to post!

 

On a happy note, dh told me last night (after emailing me at work about going out to dinner and scaring me by saying "other things happened that I'll tell you about when we're together") that he got a $1000 scholarship! Since this is his last semester and we've already paid for school, that means it gets refunded as cash. biggrinbounce.gif

 

It'll probably be a month till we get it, but I'm excited to have a little more cash on hand as we TTC. Hopefully, we'll pay off one of my student loans (it's down to about $400), and the rest can go for medical expenses, or toward saving for a trip or a new car or work clothes for dh. Or maternity clothes for me? fingersx.gif

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On a happy note, dh told me last night (after emailing me at work about going out to dinner and scaring me by saying "other things happened that I'll tell you about when we're together") that he got a $1000 scholarship! Since this is his last semester and we've already paid for school, that means it gets refunded as cash. biggrinbounce.gif


So happy for you! What a great surprise.

 

Smiles, I also hope that you have something else going on than being pre-menopausal! It is hard not to know, so I hope you will find out soon what is going on.

 

I have discovered something interesting about mucus for the past two cycles. (I have a lack of ever since having had dd, so this is something I am always trying to fix.) Earlier I had taken evening primmrose oil, green tea, etc. Those helped a little, but not very much. A couple of months ago I started to take royal jelly, and it seems to really have done something. Could be a coincidence, of course -I am on thyroid medicine and tons of vitamins- but it seems this is really doing something. It also looks as if I might ovulate earlier than normal this cycle.

 

EDITED TO ADD: I have been on beta carotene (vitamin A) the same period of time. As a carrot a day is supposed to increasu mucus, I think that, or both, may be what is doing the trick.

 

"My baby boy" is still on the website, waiting for a family. (I was told one of the kids from this country had possibly got a family, but I don't know that it is he. At least his information has not been taken down.) In addition, the photos of the kids from his country should not be posted online. They were, until the lady doing the website, I guess, realized it was not allowed. It would seem to me that he has less chance of someone seeing him and falling in love, like I did, now, without the cute photo. Hopefully I am wrong. It just seems crazy that it is taking months to find a family for a cute baby with (IMO) minor special needs. Back in December when I first saw him, I really thought that finding a family would be only a matter of days.

 


Edited by LessTraveledBy - 4/9/11 at 5:59am
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Hooray for windfalls, Monkeyscience! What a great feeling to have some buffer there -- and get to do something that you'd like (paying student loans sounds really boring, but it is somehow very satisfying to pay that number down! I inherited a diamond-encrusted broach with instructions from my grandmother to sell it and use the money -- she knew I would never wear it -- I put the whole sum, about $4000, on my student loans. 11 years of steady payments after graduation, and I still owe $15,000! But it's worth it. My life is so much richer because of my education).

 

Smiles, our bodies are such mysteries - frustrating! Google doesn't have the faintest clue what's going on with you so block that webpage (Yeah right. I can say that because I think I've exhausted every possible google search with different word combinations, synonyms, in like three languages for my situation eyesroll.gif

 

Objet - sounds like good progress with the Vitex! Keep us posted.

 

Kyamo - I don't know how thick lining is supposed to be, but that sounds gloriously cushy! Sounds like a thick soft velvety plushy cozy place for a little one to set up shop for 9 months.

 

LTB - I'm sorry you can't see the photo of the little boy anymore. I hope you saved it on your harddrive? My sister just gave me a big box of royal bee jelly, and I was going to start with it as soon as I was done taking my Optivite (it's a massive B vitamin that's supposed to help with unexplained infertility). I've got about a month left or so. Looking forward to the royal jelly from what you say. Though my sister gave it to me because she thought it tasted disgusting. 

 

Everyone: can we see a +HPT in here sometime soon please? I'm having to read other threads to get my kick - living vicariously through those photos of two lines. And it's just not the same when they're a dime a dozen in the other thread with ladies who have been trying for - horrors - three cycles; not the same as seeing it happen to someone who has been struggling for a while here. I'm still a little high from MBA, but that was like weeks ago, when I was still lurking.

 

AFM, I'm at 10 dpo, which is when I would have started testing about a year ago. I stopped taking hpts last summer. It was just such a waste of money, and made my stomach sink each time in such an unpleasant way when that chalk-white space refused to pinken up. Getting AF is definitely easier now than it was 6 months ago, I'm thankful for that. But I think it's a comes-in-waves kind of thing. May be easier at this moment, but what about when I get closer to 40? 45? 

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