Originally Posted by Toolip
So, nutritionally speaking, why are grains something to avoid but seeds are ok?
Typically its protein content vs starch content. The things we think of as nuts (almonds, walnuts, etc) have low starch and high protein. The ones we think of as grain have high starch and lower protein. ETA - oh, and fats! Cant forget those!
For many (most?) of us on here, its not about avoiding the grain for the grain's sake. Which seems to be the point you're missing, serenbat. I avoid grains for the sake of *my health*. When I dont avoid them my body punishes me in various ways, from weight gain to asthmatic-type symptoms, lethargy, depression, etc. Its not restricted to grains, if i were to eat potatoes, cassava, plantain or any other starchy plant matter daily id be having similar problems. But i do not have the difficulty in limiting those things that i do w grain, which is in large part societal. In the US, cassava and plantain are abberations, and in my region, the potato is mostly restricted to breakfast. But bread, cereal, pasta and other (mostly refined) grains appear at every meal and almost every snack.
Your insistence on a Peer reviewed long term study before altering your eating makes me wonder what your diet looks like. Because as far as I know there have been zero long term peer reviewed dietary studies performed anywhere in the world. The closest you can get is studying the diets of indigenous peoples who have been un-contaminated by "civilization". But thats not exactly a controlled or peer reviewed study.
Your other comment was on secondary ingestion of grain, which goes back to the primary presumption that grain is being avoided for grains sake, which ive already addressed. But i will point out that not everyone here eats animal products from conventionally raised animals. Im sure some of us do for budgetary reasons, but again, thats an assumption. Personally all of our meat comes from local farms where the animals are pastured and never fed grains. My eggs come from a farmer who only supplements grains in the dark of winter when the chickens arent laying. The rest of the time they're eating veggies and whatever they can catch. My milk comes from another local farm, which until Fukushima only pastured. But theyve had to turn under their pastures because of fallout, so are now feeding hay. Not ideal, but until the pastures test less contaminated, we all deal.
This diet does not work for everybody, and ive never claimed otherwise. Which is why i dont understand why i repeatedly run into people who insist how unilaterally unhealthy it is to remove grains from your diet. I spent years damaging my health on a grain heavy low fat diet because that was the "healthy" thing to do. Now I listen to my body and try to undo that damage, regardless of what other people think.Edited by cristeen - 5/2/11 at 8:40pm