April running is not just for Fools! - The April Dingo Thread - Page 11
If you do it as part of a math team, it tends to foster creative thinking and clear communication of your solution.
I missed your point on early college. I tend to agree with your DH for most kids. OH has a huge program that pretty much allows kids to take nearly 2 years of college credits while in high school. I generally find those students are generally unprepared for the organizational, social, and divergent thinking required for upper division work. Yes, they finish in 2 years, but the only have a cognitive development of a barely 20 year old. I'm finding that, as their advisor, they tend to graduate with lower GPAs and a poorer sense of how they'll use their degree. BUT. And here's my Big But. I think that's for the 95%ile to 99%ile kids. Kids that are blowing the SAT in 8th grade are not run of the mill gifted kids. That's Davidson Academy material (indeed, he's exceeded the criteria by >50 points on the SAT). I *would* enthusiastically support a kid like that going to some place like Simons Rock College or a similar place focused on such kids.
Ask on the davidson forum what you would do for the specific math issue. I think you'll probably get directed to taking things at a college, but there might be more info to be had.
RR Really. So, my RP D had been complaining about coughing after several runs, starting a bit more than a month ago. Then she was complaining about allergies, and for the last several runs (not with me) she said she felt like she couldn't breathe. It turns out that she's got asthma so bad the doc said she must be a runner used to pain and no air, because she couldn't come up with any other reason she could be talking to the doc so easily. Tonight was the first run on medication. New lungs + long legs = Holy $hit she's fast. We went spying on a neighbor's new house up a steep (Ohio) hill, and still did a 5k in 26 minutes, finishing off 3.4 in under 30. The last 0.3 was slow because I was so entertained listening to some very strange gossip about another neighbor.
Yes, this. But here's the thing. If you approach it as many students I went to high school did: college classes are things you take to keep your mind trained. Not as a way to buy time out of the 4 years, then those classes you take in high school are good. Sure you can find your way through 1-2 classes a semester just fine. The best students I've had have figured that out -- and one is off studying astronomy at Hawaii in a competitive program. I've had some truly awful students too. Of my 3 friends who took calc in 8th grade - one is a surgeon at U of Mi med school, one a computer programer at Apple and a third is a stay at home mom. The thing that the advanced math did was to get them thinking at a higher level, rather that just enough to get by.
Another friend from high school did a year abroad with a church family they knew. The language piece was huge.
Asthma: yes. that's exactly what it feels like. Although apparently having a baby cured me. I haven't used an inhaler since I was pregnant with Erin.
Weird stuff is going on with my internet. So I'm out of here.....
geo and kerc - I'm jealous of your meet up (and having met you both in person, I already know you're separate people ;) ) I'm double jealous of Geo and her double dingo meetings. I'm really hoping I can pull off a fall Columbus meet up myself.
Geo - take a deep breath and go for a run. That summer scheduling has almost put me over the edge for many a year now - and this year I'm throwing in an out of state move, which oddly, is almost making it easier. Less options = less stress?
mommajb - yikes, your kid is outside my range of experience I think. I have found with my own bright kids that being intellectually smart does not do much for their ability to live in the work - intellectual ability isn't necessarily a good life skill. So I think I'd focus on a couple areas - 1. Keeping child intellectually challenged to the level of relative contentment - I know from personal experience that it sucks to always be in an environment where you don't need to engage your mind. 2. Find him some activities that get him good life experience, and a sense of the broader world. Volunteering type things, or travel to see what the world is like, or an enrichment activity involving politics or geography, or something that gets him connected to the greater world. My own bright kid is pretty darn self involved and often had a low tolerance for people who aren't as quick on the uptake as herself, and doing things like being a camp counselor and going on a mission trip, and getting interested in politics having really helped connect her in positive ways to the world around her. I've known a bunch of really smart people in my life who just weren't very nice to be around, and weren't very good at communication and compassion and all the things that make you a good citizen, and I've tried to provide areas for my kids to learn those things as well. I always say my goal for my kids is that they grow up to be happy, and able to support themselves. (It'd be fantastic if they also had jobs I can brag about, but really, the other 2 things are far more important!) I don't have specific suggestions since I just don't have experience with kids quite that far ahead, but maybe evaluating opportunities for him but some set list of what his/your goals are for him would help?
JayGee - I'm so impressed with your swimming. I go most Friday nights to just play in the water with little dd, and this week she had me swimming laps with her and even doing 100 yds of freestyle is hard for me!
Real - really, you are adorable! And you look tall in that pic!
tjsmama - good luck on the job thing! And really, who wouldn't want you?
NRR - apparently, I spoke too soon on my test results. Got the actual pathology today of my biopsies and talked to my surgeon. He is concerned about a polyp thing he saw in the duodenum, and my biopsies from the esophageal-gastric junction showed severe esophagitis with ulceration. He wants me to take acid blocking meds for at least 8 weeks, and iron, and then recheck my blood count and be re-scoped to look at the areas that were inflamed. He gave me the option of waiting and having it re-done after I move, or getting it done here right before. I definitely don't want to move to a new state and have a stranger looking at my insides, so I'm going to have him re-do the scope for me before we move. I know some people would be uncomfortable having a procedure done where they work, but I'm much more comfortable having a surgeon I've worked with for years and nurses I know well taking care of me! At a new place, I'd just be guessing on who is competent.
We are waiting to here final inspection results on our potential new house. There was some moisture detected around the basement windows so an infrared scan thingy was being done today to make sure that's just a little condensation and not a big leaking issue. If so, hopefully we'll have things finalized soon.
RR - I finally ran again today, after over a week. Caroline wanted to run with me, so she did the first time around the little block with me (0.6 miles) and then I dropped her at home and did 4.22 miles myself. I was quicker than usual, probably from feeling so fresh after not running all week! 9:17 pace overall. I really need to get back in the swing of running as much as I did all winter!
My head is spinning with all the talk of gifted children. It somehow makes me hope that my child is only slightly gifted, and not exceptionally gifted.
I felt much better today, thank goodness. Still congested and blechy, but improved. I survived track, although it was a little rough. I actually felt fantastic for the first couple of sets, and then I was pretty much done. We did 5 sets of 400 at 10k pace, 200 recovery, 200 hard.
DS has been driving me batty today, in both small and large ways. Small irritations throughout the day, with a full-on meltdown at bedtime. Good thing I love the kid more than life itself, cuz otherwise...well, I might lose what little sanity I have left.
I officially applied for a job today for the first time in 10 years. It's been a lovely thing to have a job (in different permutations) for so long, and the extra job I picked up last year, they came to me so while I technically "applied" for it, I already had the job before I applied. Here's hoping I at least get an interview, or I'll be pretty disappointed in myself.
Tomorrow, a run with a friend if the weather holds out (raining now, and forecast looks pretty crappy), then work. And a paper to write which I have not even looked at the subject of.
Editing together mommajb's posts to get the question:
What would you do with a grade schooler with perfect SAT scores? Well, only the math was technically perfect, verbal was 690. His grades are better than his test scores would indicate. Big Sigh. I have no idea what to do with him. He's 8th grade. Has a pretty good latin back ground and takes spanish at school. The plan is ap calc his freshman year and I've been pushing for him to go to campus with dh and at least do something with somebody there as an independent study. It is how we handled piano after the first few years. Dh is opposed to early college so it is a battle.
Then do you add one question: What do parents do with a child like this? You'll get follow up questions, and you'll respond.
I also suspect that a move to SD will put you in a bigger pond with more options. Please don't hesitate to ask me to put you in touch with folks I know there as resources. Also a very real question for your DH's benefits question might be tuition benefits for children on a per-credit basis. While I'm leery of sending my kid to my university for math (bad teaching, 500 kids in class, anonymous environment), I would send my kid to the place I'm thinking you're headed to. It's smaller and more personalized with profs interested in teaching.
Yeah, that's what I thought about my kids at that age.
Life will either work out or changes will be made. After talkng to him about the possibilities in a real prep school he is more interested in a move. kerc, it is interesting how you relate social ability and giftedness. Dd1's abilities are more in the language arts and creativity side of the brain and she is so much more in tune with people even if she struggles to cope with her own emotions. Ds1 on ther other hand uses logic to understand himself and others; this doesn't always work so well.
Another day, another load of laundry.
Wow...my kids are so different from what you all describe. Isn't it amazing what a range of skills it takes to build a generation in society! At any rate, mommajb, I hope you find that this move helps you meet more of these needs much more easily. And I really think it could be the biggest help yet.
drjen, I hope it's all something that the change in venue/practice will help solve long-term, along with the med help in the meantime. Really hoping for health for you.
kerc and Geo, enjoy the (expletive deleted) weather when you get together. But mostly, enjoy the fantastic company. And post a pic, we do need proof.
I won't get into details here of how many wrenches dh has thrown into the process of transition here, but talk about last-minute headaches. Not all his doing, but some things very much his doing and by choice, and I don't think I have any adrenaline left unused in this body. Have not made it to the Y since we went one-car, but did a pretty large yard clean-up yesterday with my mom, took down some unsightly fencing and gates, and made headway. Now we need to sort and begin packing--stuff that goes where we're going, stuff that goes in suitcases, stuff that stays here, and stuff that gets shipped to a third location (a la DH making life more complicated for me). Need to make detailed valued inventories, one in French (!), and get documents to various third parties in order to handle customs.
All the work has been completed on the house. I need to send in a few more invoices and one estimate, and a little paperwork remains. Keep those good vibes coming. And remind me when dh gets it into his head, I might actually never wish to own a home again. This non-ownership thing is refreshing at this moment.
Hoping for a workout today.
drjen, the move stress must be compounded by health worries. I really hope you are able to get it resolved and in a good way.
jo, I cannot believe how much you are handling right now. I am right with you on never, ever, owning a home again. to you.
I tried to call my parents last night for advice. All they could do was relate and tell me to get on with it and not look back.
geo, not a college or university. He thinks he is a failure and is walking away from everything including his career path. How many people do that after tenure?
I need to get off the computer.
Taking notes on all the Gifted talk. Good things to think about, as my own 7 year old continues to astound me. I understand that half panicked, now what? feeling.
Jen - I'm thinking about you, and so sorry that they "found" something. I know I'm not understanding the terminology, but it sounds like maybe not as bad as it could be? And, I'm totally with you on sticking with the doctors you know for as long as possible!
RR: 5.5 miles with tri class last night. Definitely faster than I am comfortable with (we did that in 60 minutes, including the 5 minute cooldown!), but it was good. It was outside, and one of the ladies stayed back with me as I struggled through the workout. I wish I could comfortably run a 9 minute pace for miles and miles, but it doesn't seem to be in the cards for me. I'm more concerned with not breaking anything again!
NRR: Right after, I went to work for over 3 hours at Bath and Body Works, rearranging their floorsets. There was a lot of climbing up and down a ladder, moving heavy boxes, and walking back and forth. A workout in it's own right. On tired legs made for a long night! It's all good, though. It was fun, and even though I'm short on sleep and tired, I'm glad I have this job. The manager told me that anytime I want to pick up a shift during store hours, to talk to her, so that is reassuring. Especially in light of things like my clothes dryer dying! The washer died a few weeks ago, and needed to be replaced (it would have cost more to repair it). I am hoping that this is a cheap fix. I do NOT want this to turn into one of those years where all my appliances need to be replaced (yes, I've had those!). So, between the washer, the dryer, and taking a huge hit on taxes, it is not going to be possible to get a road bike this year. So, I'll have another season of triathlons on my hybrid. Good thing I like it so much!
JenB, if it's not academia, then I've no clue what you're talking about. Sorry. My mom and MIL are equally unhelpful. My mom just says "start saving for private school" and my MIL just says that the schools just took care of things, and she wasn't really paying attention. I'm not sure how many faculty leave academia for other careers, but I do know that "impostor syndrome" abounds amongst faculty. Everyone has the perpetual feeling of not being good enough or dedicated enough.
JenT, I missed that the doc found something. Here's hoping for the "it's nothing" on round 2.
jooj, you continue to amaze me as to what you can accomplish in between postings.
Glorious day here. Plugging my ears against the talk of nasties where I'm headed next week.
mommajb ~ I don't know what I'd do if one of my children was that advanced. Seriously, my hat is off to you, Mama. Good luck navigating these uncharted waters.
DrJen ~ so sorry the results weren't as benign as you were first led to believe. I think getting everything done sooner rather than after the move is a good choice. That's exactly the choice I made when my mammogram came back abnormal last fall. Getting a biopsy wasn't at the top of my "things to do the week before you move" list, but such is life.
kerc and Geo ~ have a GREAT visit!!!!
RR ~ I did end up biking with the women's group last night and it was fun. We started off pretty slow, and one of the women got a flat about 2 miles in, but after that we got going pretty good. I always like a nice group ride. I think we did about 15 miles total, but I don't have a bike computer, so I'm not exactly sure. This morning I took a spin class for an hour and then swam 1400 yards just for fun. Yeah, I know I'm weird.
NRR ~ it's my 43rd birthday! DH greeted me this morning with "Happy Birthday! You're halfway to 86!" Nice.
Awesome, brick workout! And Happy Birthday!!!! I hope you do something fun to celebrate!
The appointment with Katie went well. We have some tests, bloodwork, and paperwork to fill out, and a follow up appointment to go to in a couple of weeks. I liked the doctor, though, and so did Katie, so I feel like we have the ball rolling.
And, I just got back from talking to Emily's class about nutrition while training for a marathon! They are going to be running their timed mile soon, and the teacher invited me to talk to them. I brought in my finisher's medals for the marathon, half marathons and triathlon. It was fun, the kids were really interested (they just finished up a big unit on nutrition) and asked great questions. We didn't have enough time to answer everyone's questions, so I'm going to talk more next week when I go back (I'm volunteering weekly)!
It makes me so happy to know that you're looking forward to my visit. I am really, really excited to see you and run with a real! live! dingo! Just gotta get that conference paper written now...
Ummm, please cancel the snow. I didn't order it.
Want more jealousy? Penelope is coming to visit me two weeks after that. I've had it on my calendar for 6 months and she just confirmed.
I've got 50 kids downstairs dropping super balls into boxes of flour and having a blast. They're dirty, playing, and learning. That's all the satisfaction my job requires some days.
RR: I did 10m with my running neighbor this morning, and pursuaded him to register for a half in May so we can run it together (he does triathalons mostly). And then a mama from school asked if I was running a different half in May, which I'm gonna, and asked if I wanted to ride with her. Between this and getting to see Geo, I finally, finally am feeling like I've built a decent circle of support and community for myself and my kids, and it makes me feel like life is going to be ok.
Sorry to hear that the problem may not be as simple as thought. You didn't need anything else on top of moving.
Good luck on the job. Also, my head is swimming too with all the G&T talk, and that's even with R in a G&T classroom next year. Other than violin, we're going to have a nice, relaxed go-play-in-the-backyard/trips to the zoo/museum/etc kind of summer. (And maybe we'll come visit you for some runs or rides? I need a bike rack for my car first though....)
mommajb--sounds like a lot of decisions to make, so I'll just send for all of it.
RR: did 3 on the treadmill this afternoon while R was at kindergarten. J fell asleep in the car seat and it was still chilly so I brought her downstairs (sorry, but the bucket has its uses. She's about to outgrow it but I'll enjoy it while I can). She woke up halfway through my run but rather than immediately demanding out she just kind of watched me run and eventually fell back asleep. Score! As soon as I was done she woke up for good, but I was so happy to get through the run. Also, her 40-minute nap was the only one my 13-month-old took today. She does. not. sleep. She had a really rough night last night (teething? gas?) where she was up every 45-minutes to an hour from 1-5 and by 5 am she was just turning circles in the bed and trying to crawl up the pillows and off the bed while still half-asleep. That lasted until 5:45, at which point she finally settled into a peaceful sleep. Then R was in at 6:20 am crying that DH wouldn't let her watch a video until 7. (She also doesn't sleep. And if you're wondering, DH sleeps downstairs and thus has blissfully peaceful nights.) Meanwhile, I was so tired that I kept forgetting about the awful night and wondering why I felt so tired today.
I'm still hoping to get a Dingo meetup going when we go to NH this summer! Where is Alex these days???
Real ~ non-sleepers make life seem SO difficult. I'm glad you got a run in yesterday anyway.
tjsmama ~ I hope your DS feels better today. And booo to your XH for trying to get the tax credit .
I had a great birthday yesterday! DH got me all kinds of wonderful presents including two lacrosse sticks!!!! I played women's lacrosse in high school and have always loved it, so now one of the kids and I can throw a ball around together. DS is really interested in playing so this will be a good way for him to get some stick skills too. As DH proudly said to his sister last night, "What kind of awesome woman asks for two lacrosse sticks for a 43rd birthday gift?!" I also got aerobars for my bike, a gift certificate to the glasses store for new glasses (much needed), and some other cool stuff. He made me a "cake" out of a bowl of chocolate Easter eggs, since I don't eat wheat and we both gave up ice cream for Lent. I couldn't have asked for a better day.
It's thundering and lightning outsdie with lots of rain forecast, so I will run at the Y sometime this morning.
DrJen - Sending all the good images of you having an easy move with a healthy you that I can muster. I'd definitely stick with docs I know too!
Penelope - Yahoo for Dingo meet-ups!
Poppy - I don't know if you lurk on through but just in case, I'll be getting in touch soon about the weekend after next when we're in SF for an overnight in case there's any hope of a meet-up for us!
Mommajb - Wow that's a whole new realm of smart kid. I'll be watching with interest, I hope you do find more resources in SD.
Jo - Hanging in there?
JayGee - What a cool birthday! Kudos to your dh for sticking the landing.
Gaye - I hope ds is back to normal today. That is one packed schedule you've got!
And I thought my schedule was booked today, but nothing compared to that! I do need to track down a new doc, I've put off my annual exam for well over a year and a half now and whilst nit checking C last night I found a mole under her hair that I don't remember from her babyhood and don't recall ever having seen before. So I'll get us both looked at. And the dog needs her boosters. I do get to try a run before the chiro today so I can report on how it's going. My lower back is killing me this morning along with my hips although it usually feels okay in motion, it's just after I cool down that it gets brutal. I'd really hoped that my month + of strength and pilates would be having some positive effect. But so far all the improvement I've seen is in my biceps (which granted is better than nothing!). Urgh, I had a long realistic dream last night of dh telling me it's over and then finding out that everyone in town has known it for months. It was one of those that's hard to come out of gracefully and I still feel all discombobulated from my dream sobbing. So more coffee and time to hit the to do list.