Potty Learning Tribe! - Page 2

[sosurreal09]

I need help! We did EC religiously until she was 9 m/o and she was telling me almost every pee and poo, then I went through some depression stuff that kicked my butt and gave up on EC for a while, once I got better I tried to do it gain and she refused.

She's 18 m/o now and will not go on the potty! I swear I will put her on it and she will get right up and go poo in the kitchen or something! It is definately frustrating when she wants her diaper off but then won't do her stuff in the potty.

[goldenwillow]

Originally Posted by pranava 

Oh, the pottying doll sounds like a great idea!  I think I'll try to find one for DS.  We used the ASL sign for the letter T and moved the hand back and forth.  I think that means toilet?  Not sure, but that one was easy for DS.

So, what is the deal with the peeing 10 minutes after getting off the potty?  That happens often here and it gets so frustrating!  When they're really little, I'm sure that just don't realize they need to go while on the potty, but my DS will hold it for 3 hours and then pee 10 minutes after getting off the potty.  Ugh!!!

That is the sign for potty!  Super close to yes. 

I am so in this tribe!  Thank you for starting it!

DS is 22 months and we have been EC'ing part time since birth.  The first post helped me as well, thank you.  We ask DS if he needs to go and it is always, NO!  Ah... no.  Learned that from us telling our pets.     I dig the idea of just saying let's go instead of do you have too. 

We have 3 pottys around the house and he is naked most of the day.  I usually can "feel" when he has to go and I'd say we catch about 1/3 to 1/2 these days.  Easier when he was littler. 

I too never digged G-diapers.  We have used Fuzzi Bunz and those fit DS best.  I have been interested in grabbing an Antsy Pants diaper to see if it would be easier for him.  Anyone use those at all? 

[Halfasianmomma]

Hi mamas,

I'm going to join you, even though my DD is nearly 3 and still not potty trained. I feel like a failure. She has a new DCP who she loves and who is attempting to potty train all *8* kids in the class simultaneously. Brave woman. She has now scaled back her attempts to trying to train the 3 oldest in the class, my DD included. They don't wear diapers in the class and in the past few weeks, DD has managed to pee and poop in the potty several times a day but there have also been several accidents.

When she gets home with me though, that's another story. If *i* suggest the potty, she downright refuses. It's like she's opposed to ME asking or suggesting it. If she comes up with the idea on her own, usually AFTER she's peed or pooped in her diaper, then she'll happily sit on the potty and read to herself or play. It's a nice effort but it doesn't "yield" anything so she gets frustrated. I've tried putting her in big girl undies on the week-end, but it usually results in many accidents and tears. Just this morning, she woke with a BIG poop and freaked out when I suggested she sit on the potty. :(

My new plan of attack is to take the entire 4 day week-end for Easter and go bare bum. Hopefully, she'll have her AHA moment then and start to understand *when* the potty is useful.

[anjsmama]

Originally Posted by Halfasianmomma 

Hi mamas,

I'm going to join you, even though my DD is nearly 3 and still not potty trained. I feel like a failure. She has a new DCP who she loves and who is attempting to potty train all *8* kids in the class simultaneously. Brave woman. She has now scaled back her attempts to trying to train the 3 oldest in the class, my DD included. They don't wear diapers in the class and in the past few weeks, DD has managed to pee and poop in the potty several times a day but there have also been several accidents.

When she gets home with me though, that's another story. If *i* suggest the potty, she downright refuses. It's like she's opposed to ME asking or suggesting it. If she comes up with the idea on her own, usually AFTER she's peed or pooped in her diaper, then she'll happily sit on the potty and read to herself or play. It's a nice effort but it doesn't "yield" anything so she gets frustrated. I've tried putting her in big girl undies on the week-end, but it usually results in many accidents and tears. Just this morning, she woke with a BIG poop and freaked out when I suggested she sit on the potty. :(

My new plan of attack is to take the entire 4 day week-end for Easter and go bare bum. Hopefully, she'll have her AHA moment then and start to understand *when* the potty is useful.

Welcome! And I feel you. DS is 32 months and we have similar issues. I  have also been thinking about doing a naked weekend. He also seems to really hate the idea of potty when I suggest it. However, I am using EC with my new DD and watching her go seems to inspire him to do the same. We are now catching a few pees a day, but he still wets his training pants too, and poop is just a big forget it. He will only go if DH takes him (and DH works 8-5) or in his diaper. I know what you mean about feeling like a failure. I just want to help him achieve this and have him feel really good about learning to do something new and grown up, but at the same time, I feel like losing it! 

[pranava]

When DS get totally resistant, I do lots of naked time with his potty in the middle of the living room.  He likes to be independent and take himself, but I have to watch closely because he also likes to pick the potty up after he's gone and try to carry it to the bathroom to dump himself   This is worse than if he had just peed on the floor.  At least then it's in one spot, not a trail down the hallway and possible all over him.

[pranava]

Yay!!!  Accident free day at daycare yesterday!!!     Crossing my fingers, but not holding my breath for another one today.

[Birdie B.]

That's awesome! I am so inspired by this thread!  I have been getting more determined (initiating more potty trips, naked time, etc), and my daughter has been responding well.  She's still having a couple accidents a day, and it seems to be really hard if she is playing and having fun to want to stop and use the potty. But I'm glad to be making some progress.

[Greenlea]

I think I'm trying too early.  My DS turned 2 on 3/26.  I've been trying to get him to go on the potty but to not avail.  Last night he wanted to be naked, so I let him and kept his potty chair in the middle of the living room and checked on him to make sure he didn't need to go.

Despite that, he peed on  the floor.  I caught him and put him on the potty right away, but then he stopped going and wouldn't go again until I put the diaper back on him.  How does he not get to go in the potty when he's standing right next to it??

[Halfasianmomma]

Last night, I got a report from DD's DCP who told me that DD is her "potty training star" and that she went *3* bloody times yesterday, without any accidents. Of course, as soon as she gets home with me, she wants nothing to do with the potty and demands a diaper....and then WAILS because she realizes that she's peed or pooped in that diaper.

I don't know. I give up. I'm a potty training failure.

[Birdie B.]

Originally Posted by Halfasianmomma 

Last night, I got a report from DD's DCP who told me that DD is her "potty training star" and that she went *3* bloody times yesterday, without any accidents. Of course, as soon as she gets home with me, she wants nothing to do with the potty and demands a diaper....and then WAILS because she realizes that she's peed or pooped in that diaper.

I don't know. I give up. I'm a potty training failure.

*hugs* No you're not! I'm no expert, but teaching toddlers to use the potty consistently is freaking hard!  She is starting to get it, that's great! Keep it up!
 

[pranava]

Two accident free days in a row and then 2 accidents at daycare today   So frustrating!  Just when I think we are getting somewhere, everything goes to downhill.  I keep reminding myself - we used to have 10 wet undies a day.  2 is a major step forward.  Man, this process is slow going for DS.

Greelea, peeing on the floor is the first step to learning body functions!  Try not to get discouraged- I know it's hard.  My DS took a long time to care about puddles on the floor and he still doesn't sometimes.  Letting him go commando in some sweat pants actually worked better.  Then the pee trickled down his leg and he didn't like that much. 

Halfasianmomma - Good for your DD that she's doing well at daycare.  The diapers at home are just a habit and habits are hard to break.  THey probably make her feel comfortable and familiar, but if she doesn't like the feeling of going potty in them, then I doubt she will want to continue wearing them for long.

[lactatinggirl]

I accidentally ruined some diapers in the wash yesterday and I decided that's it, I'm done. I wasn't planning on starting until next week, but I think we'll be okay. It's probably not smart to start right before finals, but I don't think I'll need to study a whole lot and I have a lot of help around me. 

So what we're doing: we're going bottomless. DD (25 months) treats anything on her bum like a diaper. At least when she doesn't have anything on, she holds it for longer before peeing all over the floor. :-P She has a little potty. I've been sitting on the potty too when I take her to sit on hers. Every 15-30 minutes I tell her "It's potty time!!!" and get all excited. She gets pretty excited too and runs up the stairs after me. I'm also trying a potty chart where if she makes it in she gets a sticker and every 10 stickers she gets a prize. I don't know if 10 is too many though. Maybe I should make it 5? The prizes are just dinky little things like temporary tattoos, a deck of cards, a slinky. Just basically random things we had around the house that she'd like to play with. There are also a few activities in there (e.g. a small wisk that means she gets to make cupcakes with mommy). 

Any tips regarding charts and stuff? I'm thinking it'll be good motivation for DD because she loves stickers. Is she too young to understand this though? 

Yesterday we started midway through the day and she had one accident, but no actual times into the potty. She's never actually made it in the potty throughout the times that we've tried, but I think that we didn't give her enough time to get it in the past. 

[Halfasianmomma]

Another morning of DD wailing because she doesn't want to do her "morning pee" on the potty. She's not a morning person, granted, but I thought I'd save us all from the tantrum she has everytime she realizes that she's peed in her diaper after I've asked her to go on the potty. We're going through a potty hating phase right now, so I'm trying not to push it. I don't want her to develop a bad association with the potty. Gah, I wish I had an older child to help her understand. At daycare, she goes on the potty because all her friends go too. At home, she's the only one...The only time she's interested in the potty is during bathtime, because she's petrified of pooping in the tub (which she's done a bunch of times). So she tries to climb in and out of the tub, and then goes to sit on the toilet, demands a book, reads to herself, plays around and then decides that she's done. It's SO. FRUSTRATING.

Next week-end (Easter) is our bare bum week-end. I hope it goes well, because so far, nothing else has gone well at home with regards to potty training.

[pranava]

Lactatinggirl - No advice on charts and rewards.  My ds is 24 months and is just starting to get the idea of "if you do xyz, then you get this reward"  The idea of delayed gratification is beyond him

I've been on a mad hunt for the best waterproof training undies.  We tried Bummis and Potty Scotty yesterday.  I cut a slit in the back of the bummis and stuffed them with a diaper insert because they didn't seem padded enough.  DS promptly tested both pair   No leaks with the stuffed Bummis.  The Potty Scotty leaked at nap time.  I don't really like the way the bummis feel on the inside.  They're not very soft, and they didn't feel as wet as say the cotton gerber trainer undies.  Both pair are just HUGE looking and poofy.  I ordered a small for 25 pound DS and they do fit in the legs and waist, they're just so poofy he looks funny. 

I'm thinking of making my own training pants - literally pants!  DS seems to really care when the pee trickles down his leg.  What about actual waterproof pants with elastic waist and ankles.  I'd put regular undies on him and let him pee down his leg - (he,he tricky mommy), but the pee wouldn't be able to escape to the furniture or carpet.  I don't care that much about cleaning up messes at home, but he can't be wetting everything at daycare.  Hmmm. . . just a thought.

[mamabear15]

Greenlea,

My daughter does the same thing. She is 27 months. She wants to have nothing to do with her little potty or our big potty. When she poops she says "Sorry Mama". We try to tell her it's ok, poop is good, hooray for poop! She's not buying it. She knows when she pees and poops and when she needs changed. How do we get over this hump of her thinking peeing and pooping is bad and the potty is scary?

Originally Posted by Greenlea 

I will join you!

My son turned 2 at the end of March.  I have tried getting him to sit on the potty, he usually arches his back and says nooooo!  I've tried making it fun, making it routine, making it like Daddy, but its not working.  He hides in a corner when he poops (in his diaper) and will sometimes hide afterwards.  If I find him, I try to get him to go on the potty to poop, but he pushes me away and says noooo!  Is it just too early for him?

[pranava]

We seem to have stalled out at the 2 to 3 accidents a day point.  Plus we're going through so many pair of underwear in a day becuase DS will dribble a little and then realize he has to go and stop.  I don't really consider these full out accidents.  They are great body awareness moments for him, but I don't know how much longer he will need to go through this phase before he gets over the hump and is having accidents maybe 2 or 3 times a week. 

This is taking soo much longer than I expected!

[Everrgreen]

I have been leaving my son naked at home for a week now and he is consistently going to the potty.  He doesn't do as well with pants on and if he's wearing a diaper he just pees in it without saying anything to me.  I want to start practicing more with pants on (but no underwear/trainers) and get him used to that.  Once he becomes consistent with that I will start doing some outings!  I'm really impressed with how well he is doing though.  I hadn't even planned on starting until we had warmer weather here but he just sort of started doing it and so I want to run with it! 

[kayabrink]

Originally Posted by JudiAU 

Basically, there are two camps of potty learning. You hit the sweet spot right before 2 for a parent-led let's sit on the potty every so often way. Kids learn predictablity and bladder control pretty easily. This is how most of us were potty trained and why giant diapers didn't exist in the 1970s. This is what busy body grandparents are advocating. It works.

Traditional potty learning doesn't have punishment or shaming at its core, although some people think that it does. It is just a different approach.

This is what I did with both my kids. Introduced potty ay one, caught wake-up pees starting right away. Then, 1/2 hour after wahe up and every hour thereafter, I sat them on the potty. Ds was totally out of diprs at 18 months an really independent at ahe 2 (didn't even require reminders). Dd is 17 mo and has been in undies only during the day for the last month. For us this approach was really successful (of course my main criteria were kids out of dipes early without tears/tantrums).
OTOH I can understand folks who wait till kidss are older and try to do PL in 3 days type events, but I had heard too many stories of it becoming a real power struggle at that age. Plus I did't want to have to buy the next size dipes.

[cmftblynumb]

oh i'd love to join... infact joined mdc to give & receive support on this very issue!

DD is 22 months and we were doing EC but inconsistently. i felt that she knows her body quite well and so we jumped into the 3 day PT over the weekend.  by day 2 DD was looking for and sitting on the potty all by herself.  she amazes me! :)   this is when she is bare-bottomed at home so far we've had only 2 accidents.  

going out with her has been challenging though.  i took her out today for a couple of hours with undies and pants on, we had one accident but i think this was a good learning point for me (i cant run errands where i might be stuck in a line & she needs to go! duh!).  

i ask her often if she needs to go but she is not yet communicating this before she goes.  i watch her closely for signs but i guess this is where the learning comes in.  also she isnt interested (at all!) in learning how to take her clothes or undies off.  since this is week 1 i think it would be good for her to go bare bottom but perhaps next week, i'll put her in undies and see what happens.

[pranava]

Originally Posted by cmftblynumb 

oh i'd love to join... infact joined mdc to give & receive support on this very issue!

DD is 22 months and we were doing EC but inconsistently. i felt that she knows her body quite well and so we jumped into the 3 day PT over the weekend.  by day 2 DD was looking for and sitting on the potty all by herself.  she amazes me! :)   this is when she is bare-bottomed at home so far we've had only 2 accidents.  

going out with her has been challenging though.  i took her out today for a couple of hours with undies and pants on, we had one accident but i think this was a good learning point for me (i cant run errands where i might be stuck in a line & she needs to go! duh!).  

i ask her often if she needs to go but she is not yet communicating this before she goes.  i watch her closely for signs but i guess this is where the learning comes in.  also she isnt interested (at all!) in learning how to take her clothes or undies off.  since this is week 1 i think it would be good for her to go bare bottom but perhaps next week, i'll put her in undies and see what happens.

The learning I had to do was one thing I didn't count on in this adventure.  I still don't know what to do about standing in line.  A couple of times now DS has said he needed to go while standing in line at the store.  I've had to learn how to stand in a public restroom to block DS from touching all the yucky things, how to pack a diaper bag for multiple pee accidents, how to sit at the very back of a public toilet myself and hold DS in front of me to pee(fold up travel potty seats are NOT working for us - holding him up while standing in front of him just resulted in me getting peed on!), and I'm sure I'm not done learning