Originally Posted by BabySmurf
I am curious about the selectivity of ClO2, and I hope to read more on that. In the article you posted above there was mention of how this treatment helped put back into balance oxygen levels...how do you feel about the current antioxidant craze then? I have been sort of weirded out by all of the "antioxidant rich" stuff on the market lately. And quite frankly all of the fish oil and multivitamin stuff in general. I just bought a book by Nick Lane called Oxygen, and it goes into the delicate balance of O2 in the atmosphere and our bodies. I haven't read it yet, but I know from reviews that he goes into how all of the antioxidant stuff can actually disrupt our systems.
I'm also curious about how ClO2 behaves with heavy metals. I believe you posted something about it, but I haven't had a chance to look much into it yet.
Hi BabySmurf... you're one of my favourite posters.
Again, I can't produce a clinical trial proving it pulls out heavy metals (and certain toxic substances) from the human body. What I can do is much the same as I have been doing here, which is giving information so those with their thinking caps on can figure it out for themselves, contact and verify and basically further their own learning and research. I can show MMS does oxidise heavy metals scientifically, in water, and in the various other ways oxidation works against heavy metals. It does not chelate, oxidation is a different process. Much like its disinfection ability, it is easy to show this particular effect in use in various ways, but just not inside the body.
The other piece of information I have is the before and after hair analysis. Before MMS, hair analysis shows heavy metal levels and after MMS the metals are decreased or gone. There have been urine tests done for this also, but I have no links for that myself and would have to do a search. I'm not sure who would put their urine tests on the internet but at curezone and other sites some do things like that as it is helpful when particular alternative treatments have no formal studies and people rely on each other's reporting and results.
I'm not on my own computer at the moment, and have no links.
Regarding antioxidants, it always felt wrong to me to wage such war against such an important element of our health - oxygen. Most people think oxygen's effects are limited to breathing, but that is so far from the truth. There are many uses of oxygen in the body such as oxidation against pathogens. I understand the chemistry of free radicals. But what seems to have happened is we've found a bunch of really effective vitamins and herbs and put their actions down as simply antioxidant. They do serve this function (hence why vitamin C for instance must be avoided while on oxidant therapy) but it is far from the only function they serve.
The best argument I've seen against the antioxidant craze was in the book Cancer: Cause, Cure and Coverup by Ron Gdanski.
I'm not against antioxidant therapy. But I am concerned that people think oxidation is an unnatural process in the body, when in fact it is used constantly... so if your body needs help with the byproducts of oxidation, the problem probably should be addressed from the angle of: why is my body oxidising so damned much? What is it trying to fight or remove? There are tests to see how much oxidation is going on in your body, often measuring elevated lipid peroxides in the urine... and this is supposed to tell us if you need more antioxidants or not. That's a pretty limited way of viewing increased oxidation activity. And by limiting treatment of increased oxidation to simply supporting the antioxidant effect is overlooking the cause of the oxidation to begin with. Ignoring cause is a hallmark of modern medicine and most at MDC recognise that anyway.
I don't know if antioxidants can disrupt our systems, but I haven't read that book so I'm open to learning what angle he plays on it. Because most antioxidants are regular foods, herbs and vitamins... is he suggesting we can have too much of those, based on their antioxidant effects? Oxygen therapies are old as the hills. Peroxide used to be used internally until everyone got flibberty about it and it is relegated to the "disinfectant" realm, holding its many other purposes secret. Again, you don't go and swallow a bottle of peroxide, but in drop amounts, people have had amazing success. Personally, I use it as a mouth rinse and also found it removes moles topically but I haven't done that particular oxygen/oxidation therapy internally. I do love my DMSO! (dimethylsulphoxide) I take that internally, and it leaves me smelling of oysters. That has scientific studies to back it, too - for use in strokes, arthritis, cancer and many other things. Yet, it is an industrial solvent... silly doctors probably haven't been told you can't use an industrial substance internally.
At least the antioxidant craze has served to get people taking certain vitamins and herbs they ordinarily wouldn't take, based on thinking antioxidation is what they need above all else... the substances don't care what you take them for, they'll do their work regardless.