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post #121 of 298

Thank you for reminding me why I started avoiding this entire site.  The Eugenics discussion from a few weeks ago and this one has pretty much sealed the deal.  My life truly is richer when I avoid such ridiculous judgmental people.

post #122 of 298

yes, I am bothered by rude people too and complain often enough about it.  People not caring about the others around them really gets to me too since I don't think it is difficult to at least try to be mindful of everyone.  I just think it is important to give the same respect and have perspective.  The person blocking the way and not caring and being annoyed that anyone would ask them to move?  Rude and self involved.  The person blocking the way but moves with an 'excuse me?'  just functioning in society and not doing anything wrong.

 

ETA:  Is anyone else having issues with the cursor disappearing, making it impossible to edit what you type without pushing submit first and editing the post separately?  I'm about to pull out my hair...

post #123 of 298

I really can't remember the last time I saw an older child- not a baby or toddler- in a stroller. I wouldn't care. It doesn't affect me if the person wants to lug one around. I've never had anyone run me down with a stroller or block my way. Usually my way is blocked by adults standing still talking to other adults- no strollers involved.

 

Today I went to an event with my dh and dd. I held my dd's hand. The three of us walked side-by-side. No one asked us to move over or seemed to glaring at us. Someone may have been behind us seething inside that we were taking up so much room though.At least I wasn't using one of those hated strollers. It would've been so nice to have one for carting our stuff back to the car.


 

 

post #124 of 298
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post #125 of 298

This thread is funny.

 

I've been criticized for having my children in an Ergo, or a Snugli or a backpack (and once knocked a jar of jam on the floor with the corner of a frame pack, which I've certainly never done with a stroller), for all kinds of weird reasons. The baby is too cold. The baby can't be comfortable. The baby is smothering. The baby wants to walk. Blah, blah, blah.

 

I've been criticized (not directly, but, WOWZA does it get to be heated here on MDC) for having used a harness. I'm treating my child like a dog. I'm not respecting his/her personal space. I'm too lazy to teach them proper safety. Blah, blah, blah.

 

And, now apparently, using a stroller is some kind of sin against childhood, too.

 

My oldest is 18. I babywore him, long before I'd ever heard of babywearing (used a frame backpack for some things, and an old Snugli tummy carrier - tummy to tummy style) the rest of the time. I also used a stroller - not quite the size of the modern "SUV" strollers, but it was pretty big. I loved it. It could sit up or lie down, and was reversible. I could use it as a stroller or as a carriage. It had a huge basket underneath for extras, plus a diaper bag thing that hung from the handle and could double as a weather cover.

 

I wanted a stroller just like the one above when I had dd1, but I couldn't find one anywhere. So, we have a cheaper, smaller stroller - not an umbrella one, but fairly similar, only it has a large-ish basket underneath, as well. We use it quite a lot.

 

I've used every imaginable combination of a stroller, babywearing, a harness, and just plain carrying a child or putting them on my shoulders. And, trust me - there's someone out there ready to tell me what's wrong with my parenting for every single one of those things. They don't see any reason for the stroller...or the Ergo...or the harness...or the backpack...or carrying the kid ("he/she should be able to walk that distance at his/her age!"). You know what? They don't know me. They don't know challenges I may be facing (when I first started using the harness, I had an unhealled c-section incision - but nobody scowling or laughing at me from across the street could see it). They don't know my kids. So, really - their opinions aren't worth anything. It used to bug me. It still does, in some ways, but mostly because it drives me nuts that human beings think we're so effing smart, but we still can't separate the tool from the user. If people must judge, look at the parenting, not at the tool the parents are using.

post #126 of 298
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I've used every imaginable combination of a stroller, babywearing, a harness, and just plain carrying a child or putting them on my shoulders. And, trust me - there's someone out there ready to tell me what's wrong with my parenting for every single one of those things. They don't see any reason for the stroller...or the Ergo...or the harness...or the backpack...or carrying the kid ("he/she should be able to walk that distance at his/her age!"). You know what? They don't know me. They don't know challenges I may be facing (when I first started using the harness, I had an unhealled c-section incision - but nobody scowling or laughing at me from across the street could see it). They don't know my kids. So, really - their opinions aren't worth anything. It used to bug me. It still does, in some ways, but mostly because it drives me nuts that human beings think we're so effing smart, but we still can't separate the tool from the user. If people must judge, look at the parenting, not at the tool the parents are using.


Yeah, you really can't win.

TBH, I used to be much more judgemental about some things before I had my own kid (although I didn't give it much thought, but I would think in passing, Wow why can't those kids just learn to walk? Why are there 5yo's in strollers? etc.) Now I think I've become a lot more open, in part because I've been humbled by my own experiences (my own chronic illness, my DS who cannot seem to walk outside, etc.) and just the fact of being a mother and knowing what it's like (which almost no one who is not a parent can possibly fully understand!!) We all do what we need to do to get through the day and to get our kids through childhood. It's sad that we just can't win in the eyes of others, even other mamas. greensad.gif
post #127 of 298

Dont know why I felt the need to mention that I call my beloved double stroller "the bus".  orngbiggrin.gif

post #128 of 298
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Originally Posted by Chamomile Girl View Post


So, yes I do function in public by being hyperpolite and trying not to get in people's way.  It is how I was raised to show respect to people.  



Believe it or not, this is possible even with a stroller.  

 

post #129 of 298
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Originally Posted by Storm Bride View Post

This thread is funny.

 

I've been criticized for having my children in an Ergo, or a Snugli or a backpack (and once knocked a jar of jam on the floor with the corner of a frame pack, which I've certainly never done with a stroller), for all kinds of weird reasons. The baby is too cold. The baby can't be comfortable. The baby is smothering. The baby wants to walk. Blah, blah, blah.

 

I've been criticized (not directly, but, WOWZA does it get to be heated here on MDC) for having used a harness. I'm treating my child like a dog. I'm not respecting his/her personal space. I'm too lazy to teach them proper safety. Blah, blah, blah.

 

And, now apparently, using a stroller is some kind of sin against childhood, too.

 

My oldest is 18. I babywore him, long before I'd ever heard of babywearing (used a frame backpack for some things, and an old Snugli tummy carrier - tummy to tummy style) the rest of the time. I also used a stroller - not quite the size of the modern "SUV" strollers, but it was pretty big. I loved it. It could sit up or lie down, and was reversible. I could use it as a stroller or as a carriage. It had a huge basket underneath for extras, plus a diaper bag thing that hung from the handle and could double as a weather cover.

 

I wanted a stroller just like the one above when I had dd1, but I couldn't find one anywhere. So, we have a cheaper, smaller stroller - not an umbrella one, but fairly similar, only it has a large-ish basket underneath, as well. We use it quite a lot.

 

I've used every imaginable combination of a stroller, babywearing, a harness, and just plain carrying a child or putting them on my shoulders. And, trust me - there's someone out there ready to tell me what's wrong with my parenting for every single one of those things. They don't see any reason for the stroller...or the Ergo...or the harness...or the backpack...or carrying the kid ("he/she should be able to walk that distance at his/her age!"). You know what? They don't know me. They don't know challenges I may be facing (when I first started using the harness, I had an unhealled c-section incision - but nobody scowling or laughing at me from across the street could see it). They don't know my kids. So, really - their opinions aren't worth anything. It used to bug me. It still does, in some ways, but mostly because it drives me nuts that human beings think we're so effing smart, but we still can't separate the tool from the user. If people must judge, look at the parenting, not at the tool the parents are using.


Yes! I think we had something similar & my oldest is 20. Had the handle that flipped around so you could push facing baby or baby facing away. Could lie down completely flat or sit up almost as much as an umbrella stroller. Had storage underneath and the handles were such that you could hang bags off them, if necessary. I really wanted that exact stroller for my second one, but couldn't find anything like it :(

 

post #130 of 298
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Originally Posted by Bokonon View Post





Believe it or not, this is possible even with a stroller.  

 



Sure it is.  I never said it was not.  In fact I even said I had a stroller.  I believe my point was that it is easier to be inconsiderate with a stroller because it takes up more space, therefore to be polite with a stroller one must take that into account.  Many do not.

post #131 of 298
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Originally Posted by Chamomile Girl View Post





Sure it is.  I never said it was not.  In fact I even said I had a stroller.  I believe my point was that it is easier to be inconsiderate with a stroller because it takes up more space, therefore to be polite with a stroller one must take that into account.  Many do not.


People with extra people (ie. children) take up more space, period.

 

Again, this is not a stroller issue.  

 

post #132 of 298
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Originally Posted by Chamomile Girl View Post





Sure it is.  I never said it was not.  In fact I even said I had a stroller.  I believe my point was that it is easier to be inconsiderate with a stroller because it takes up more space, therefore to be polite with a stroller one must take that into account.  Many do not.


I'm willing to bet that most people who block someone's way with a stroller are sleep-deprived, zoned out because it's their only break in the needy child routine, or stressed in some way. If someone doesn't move, sure, that's rude -- there are some people out there -- but mostly I don't assume ill-intent. It's the same at the grocery store.

 

We all have to eat, and people generally have to shop to eat, and that means a number of people at the store will be there in some less than optimal state - stressed out by work, kids, zoned out due to the lighting/choices, worrying about money or family. I don't know...I just find it easier to assume that people are not deliberately being rude or even inconsiderate, just that they are not at their very best every moment of the day.

 

I read somewhere on a pet peeve site once that people were annoyed about "orphan" carts at the ends of aisles of produce and annoyed at people with carts at the produce and annoyed with people with carts in the middle of the produce aisle which really left me wondering where, exactly, the carts are supposed to go while one is selecting green beans. :) I kind of think it's the same with strollers. You just can't win for trying, some days.

 

post #133 of 298

She already conceded that point.  In fact, she did so in the post you cut her last quote from.  No sense beating her specifically over the head about what she understands now isn't a stroller issue but rather a rude person who sometimes has a stroller issue.
 

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Originally Posted by Bokonon View Post




People with extra people (ie. children) take up more space, period.

 

Again, this is not a stroller issue.  

 



 

post #134 of 298
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Originally Posted by Chamomile Girl View Post





Sure it is.  I never said it was not.  In fact I even said I had a stroller.  I believe my point was that it is easier to be inconsiderate with a stroller because it takes up more space, therefore to be polite with a stroller one must take that into account.  Many do not.



People with extra people (ie. children) take up more space, period.

 

Again, this is not a stroller issue.  

 


Oh goodness, whatever shall we do the next time we see a fat person with children?  I'm sure they take up even MORE space than a skinny person with children eyesroll.gif  And oh dear, a fat person with a stroller would be just devastating to the public space around us eyesroll.gif eyesroll.gif  (I'm being sarcastic, really and truly do NOT take these sentences seriously).

 

I find it easier to be polite with my child in a stroller than not, b/c he's too heavy for me to carry, and when he's not in a stroller I'm slow and hunched down to hold hands, or people have to look out for the dreaded baby leash that they could trip over.  DS is walking, but he's kinda slow, and sometimes I like to move fast.  He walks pretty far too, so if we're going to be close to home we do without the stroller, but we don't have a car, so the stroller is my grocery mobile most of the time.

 

post #135 of 298
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YES! I want the triple one with the husband seat in the middle and the built in dvd/espresso maker. Hybrid, of course (runs partially on dirty diapers).


I used to literally have men in cars pull over to tell me ds was too big to be in a stroller (he was 4 or 5).  I used to laugh at them and tell them I didn't see them walking, either.  That it looked to me that they were in a giant stroller with a motor. ROTFLMAO.gif

 

 

 

post #136 of 298
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Originally Posted by 4evermom View Post




I used to literally have men in cars pull over to tell me ds was too big to be in a stroller (he was 4 or 5).  I used to laugh at them and tell them I didn't see them walking, either.  That it looked to me that they were in a giant stroller with a motor. ROTFLMAO.gif

 

 

 


Awesome! Like like like!

 

post #137 of 298
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Originally Posted by ~Charlie's~Angel~ View Post

At first I read that as crustation.  LOL sorry. 

 

Hugh something, right?  GRANT!  Hugh Grant.


Goran Visnjic, who is not a crustacean, but he his Croatian.

 

post #138 of 298

Oh boy, I hope there is a thread about an insane woman who brought a huge ass stroller, luggage, hand luggage, a trunki, and two children on a 5-train subway trip through Brooklyn at 9pm last Sunday evening inconveniencing a crap load of people as she tried to make sure everybody and everything was on the correct side of the train doors each time she got on and off cos that insane woman was me when my ordered car service didn't show up. 

post #139 of 298

omg... this is a really tedious and tiring subject. it was interesting at first, but now not so much. i finally just read through the entire thread. who cares! some people use strollers, some people don't. some people with strollers are rude, some people without strollers are rude. let's get over it. i'm sure ppl make judgments about me all the time, and ykw, good for them. it's gonna happen. thumb.gif

 

p.s. and it's just nasty in here all the way around...Bolt.gif. i didn't expect to see it get this brutal on mdc.


Edited by MamaofLiam - 5/1/11 at 2:02pm
post #140 of 298

Umm, thats the freaky guy from Pratical magic right?  Yea, different guy I was thinking.  Definetly the movie 9 months with Hugh Grant.  (Thank you imdb and google.) 

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