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post #41 of 318

yay kelly, awesome news!!  joy.gif so first beta was at 15dp and this one was at 17dp?  i'm just curious to see your doubling time---it's the geek in me.  :) 

 

we are still waiting, waiting for news on our beta.  more layoffs at dp's company today - they (dp and her co-workers) think another 8.  plus there will be across the board paycuts and furloughs.  ick.

 

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Originally Posted by indigoscot View Post

yay kelly, awesome news!!  joy.gif so first beta was at 15dp and this one was at 17dp?  i'm just curious to see your doubling time---it's the geek in me.  :) 

 

we are still waiting, waiting for news on our beta.  more layoffs at dp's company today - they (dp and her co-workers) think another 8.  plus there will be across the board paycuts and furloughs.  ick.

 

g


Yep, first beta was at 15dp and the second was at 17dp.  My next is in a week.  Do you know how much it's supposed to double in that time?

 

Hope you get your beta soon! 

 

post #43 of 318

doubling time for this set of betas is 29.67hrs - which is awesome!  unless of course you had one done in the morning and one in the evening (betas are usually done at the same time each draw, dp's have all been done around 8am).  i factored in hours between tests at 48hrs.

 

* At 14 DPO, the average HCG level is 48 mIU/ml, with a typical range of 17-119 mIU/ml.
* At 15 DPO, the average HCG level is 59 mIU/ml, with a typical range of 17-147 mIU/ml.
* At 16 DPO, the average HCG level is 95 mIU/ml, with a typical range of 33-223 mIU/ml.
* At 17 DPO, the average HCG level is 132 mIU/ml, with a typical range of 17-429 mIU/ml.
* At 18 DPO, the average HCG level is 292 mIU/ml, with a typical range of 70-758 mIU/ml.
* At 19 DPO, the average HCG level is 303 mIU/ml, with a typical range of 111-514 mIU/ml.
* At 20 DPO, the average HCG level is 522 mIU/ml, with a typical range of 135-1690 mIU/ml.
* At 21 DPO, the average HCG level is 1061 mIU/ml, with a typical range of 324-4130 mIU/ml.
* At 22 DPO, the average HCG level is 1287 mIU/ml, with a typical range of 185-3279 mIU/ml.
* At 23 DPO, the average HCG level is 2034 mIU/ml, with a typical range of 506-4660 mIU/ml.
* At 24 DPO, the average HCG level is 2637 mIU/ml, with a typical range of 540-10,000 mIU/ml.

 

between now and next tuesday your levels will most likely exceed 1200.  At that point the doubling time is supposed to slow down:

 

* For HCG levels <1200 mIU/ml, the expected doubling time is 48-72 hours.
* For HCG levels 1200 to 6000 mIU/ml, the expected doubling time is 72-96 hours.
* For HCG levels >6000 mIU/ml, the expected doubling time is >96 hours.

 

hth!!!

 

g
 


 

post #44 of 318

we got our beta back!!!  at 25dpo (or 5w4d) it is 4024!!  p4 is 22.  that's a doubling time of 44.56hrs!!  given that the doubling time should slip to every 72-96hrs once hcg reaches 1200, the nurse professed this to be an awesome beta number.  joy.gifjoy.gif

we have our first u/s set for 1145am on monday - which will be 6w3d.  joy.gif

 

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post #45 of 318

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8BhgGt91sk 

 

 

 

My furbaby being creative in his play.

post #46 of 318
Gelly--So cute!

Isa--We have gone back and forth about having the same donor for siblings (DP plans on carrying next). When we first started, that was the plan. Those kinds of priorities have totally gone out the window though...actually being pregnant now seems more important that who the donor is...and we wouldn't be able to afford using European without the "Featured Donor". (I LOVE the bank, by the way...I am actually fine with Midwest closing now because of how happy I am with this bank...). The chances of the "Featured Donor" being sold out (or retired) is high....so we can't get totally attached unless we buy a large quantity right away (and I don't dare to do it in case it is difficult for me to get pregnant with him...).

Krista--How are you doing??

Crystal--I will be a bit after you with those insems! I think we might start insemming next Thursday depending on how things go...still don't know about our KD yet...meeting with him and the gf tomorrow. Yikes.

Sara--What's the new job?

Feeling blah...that is all. gloomy.gif I keep running into people that got pregnant around the same time I did in November...all of their stomachs have grown. Uggg..
post #47 of 318
Thread Starter 

lise: I'm working at Chipotle. I wish like hell I was using my degree and had a big girl job, but I can't find anything at all (not yet, still looking hard nearly every day). But so for now I'm at Chipotle, and I'm really enjoying it. I get a bunch of hours a week (if I want them) and my boss really likes my 'chipper and friendly' attitude and says I'll go far if I want to! I get health insurance and free food, so thats a plus too! And hopefully I'll get to make some friends my age down here too! Are you inseming with Mr. May?! We too really like Eurpoean! I e-mailed them and told them how happy I am with them and please to be using them! I like how you like that Midwest closed, thats funny to me (I know, I'm sick in the head). We also thought it would be great to have the siblings linked with the same donor, but we too decided getting pregnant was more important than with whom. The deal is also a BIG plus! 

 

How is everyone else?!

 

AFM: In the car on the drive home, I had an overwhelming sense that I'm not actually pregnant, but I told my head to shut up, and not to think that way. We'll see what happens!

post #48 of 318

wow, things have changed around here in a few months' time!  my dp and i haven't insemmed since october--we planned to try january 2011 but my cycle was off.  after that we took a break because of stress and my then crazy work/school schedule, and general middle of winter tumult.  now we're getting ready to try again in late may, using our last two vials of sperm--and won't be able to try again until fall if this cycle doesn't work out.

 

i'm wondering what experience you all have had using drugs like clomid or vitex, and trigger shots.  my cycles haven't been as regular as they used to be, and i've had a few anovulatory cycles recently.  altogether we've tried to impregnate me 7 times without success, and for the first time i can imagine choosing to try something to increase my chances for a pregnancy this time.  if you did choose something like clomid, how much monitoring did you do?  did you use a trigger as well?  how many insems did you do...and how long after lh surge or trigger?  did the drugs impact your ewcm?  

 

it's good to see some familiar names.  i'll need to catch myself up on everyone's stories, but i'm sending lots of baby vibes goodvibes.gifto you smilingsara, and anyone else in the tww!  congratulations indigoscot and kellysf...so nice to see some bfps!!  those will be january babies, yes?  wave.gifhello to everyone else...

post #49 of 318
Thread Starter 

thanks rainbowvalley! Glad to see you back! Looking forward to sending you good vibes at the end of the month girl! 

post #50 of 318
Rainbow valley--Good to see you back! I do all my monitoring through an RE. I also have taken both clomid and femara. Oh yeah, we just celebrated try #6. I have never felt any physical side effects from the meds. The clomid did thin my lining a little after using it for five cycles, then my doc switched me to femara this last time which doesn't deplete your lining as much. I have triggered the last two times. The thing I like about the trigger is that ovulation is much more predictable so I'm not as stressed about timing. It also lengths my luteal phase which is on the short side. When I've triggered, my insems were 30 and 32 hrs post-injection.
I also go in for a pre-O ultrasound around day 12 or 13 to check follies and lining. My doc also does just one insem per cycle.
About the medication, I didn't want to do any unmedicated cycles because we have a limited # of donor vials, I am 36, it took me 7 tries to get pregnant the first time and it was really important for us to optimize our chances for success. Another thing I like about meds is that I don't have to worry about anovulatory cycles (especially with unpredictable work stress) and they guarantee me 2-3 good follies each cycle.
Obviously, using an RE gives the experience a more medical feel, but I really like my doc, I feel very supported by her/staff and I have found a ttc strategy that feels really good to me.
That's my two cents. My very best to you for your upcoming try! Keep us posted with your plan!
post #51 of 318
rainbow valley, just popping in to say that after7 try's at home we moved to clomid/trigger with an RE and had success the first and second time (first was a m/c, the second is nursing in my arms now). I did CD3 u/s, clomid CD3-7, u/s CD12&15, trigger on CD15 (follies were 18 & 17mm respectively on CD15) insem exactly 36hrs later. I truly am grateful that I switched methods when we did! good luck with your decision!!
post #52 of 318

Rainbowvalley, I too have gone the Clomid/monitoring/trigger shot route.  And this time it worked!  Most RE's prescribe Clomid for CD 3-7 but I found that CD 5-9 got my follies to a better place.  I tend to ovulate on the later side (around CD18-19) even on Clomid, but Clomid helped my cycle get more regular.  I'd go in for an ultrasound on CD 14 to see how things were progressing.  This last cycle, I had two nice follies on the right side on CD14, and we did our trigger shot on CD16 at night, then did an ICI 8 hours later, an IUI 12 hours after that, and another IUI 12 hours after that.

 

In the interest of full disclosure, Clomid did make me feel pretty rageful at times (and about the dumbest things!).  But it's a walk in the park compared to injectables (did those at one point too).  FYI--Clomid can make your uterine lining pretty thin.  Mine was 7mm (on the thin side) this last cycle.  An RE can prescribe something to fluff it up.  Also, there are other oral agents like Femara that could work for you even if Clomid doesn't.

 

Overall, I think the Clomid/ultrasound/trigger route is a pretty minimally invasive way to go while providing some great benefits.

 

Good luck!

post #53 of 318
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Originally Posted by indigoscot View Post

we got our beta back!!!  at 25dpo (or 5w4d) it is 4024!!  p4 is 22.  that's a doubling time of 44.56hrs!!  given that the doubling time should slip to every 72-96hrs once hcg reaches 1200, the nurse professed this to be an awesome beta number.  joy.gifjoy.gif

we have our first u/s set for 1145am on monday - which will be 6w3d.  joy.gif

 

g


Yay!  That's awesome!  And very cool that you get to have your first u/s so soon.  Mine is scheduled for May 19, my seventh week.

 

Do you have an EDD yet?  I figured mine out to be January 3, 2012.  I have tons of family members with early January birthdays, and mine's on the 9th, so there's a good chance this baby will share a birthday with someone :)

 

post #54 of 318

kelly - our edd is december 31st!!  ds2 was about a week late though, so we expect another january babe.  ds1 was actually born on dp's birthday, how cool is THAT?  :)

 

our re's office protocol is 3 betas and if the numbers are progressing normally, a first u/s at 6 weeks and a second u/s at 7 weeks.  then they turn you over to your ob or midwife care. 

 

g

post #55 of 318

Hi gals:

 

I've been a little more MIA than normal (for me, that is!) for a reason and I feel like it's time to speak up. I hope that maybe my thoughts and feelings will spark a good discussion.

 

I've been happy to see so many graduates in the past three months. Spring is upon us and it does make it feel hopeful. At the same time, I'm finding it tough to come visit this board because it seems to be a more of a mix between Queer Conceptions and Queer & Pregnant where some people posting are in TTC and some people posting are pregnant. I've gotten to know so many of you here in so many different ways (and even meet one person in person) so what happens here feels very personal to me. I do want to know what happens to each of us and whether we're successful and at the same time, I'll be the first to admit that it stings.

 

It's been especially difficult for me to see posts about the progression of a pregnancy. The initial announcement is welcomed and I surely appreciated everyone's love and support as my pregnancy went downhill, so believe me when I say I have mixed emotions about it. But somehow I keep coming back to one of the things that we struggle with the most during this journey -- it's difficult to see others around us getting pregnant.

 

I really appreciate having the Q&P board that I can go to when I want (and when I'm in an emotionally okay place about it) and I very much appreciate when they give us advice on things they did to get pregnant by posting here. I know there was some discussion awhile ago on the Q&P board as to how they handle keeping up with us and when they feel it's okay to post. I really valued their sensitivity to the matter.

 

I've been feeling this way for awhile but I wanted to give myself some space after my miscarriage to see if I was still feeling that way. Since I am, I feel it's important to speak up. I welcome an open discussion. I don't have a particular "right" or "wrong" answer in mind. I'm just feeling like this is the space to talk about all-things-difficult related to TTC and this is one of them.

 

It's hard to hit the SUBMIT button but I'm going to do it anyway...

 

Peace,

Krista

post #56 of 318
I'm not currently TTC, so I'm not sure that my opinion matters on this issue, but I wanted to chime in and say I felt the same way as Krista when I was TTC. Maybe not at first, before I had been trying very long and before I had a miscarriage, but in the later months it became very difficult to read news about pregnancy beyond the initial announcement. Like Krista, I was grateful that I could choose to read Q&P when I was up to it and choose to ignore it when that worked best for me.

These days I frequently debate whether or not to post on QC. On the one hand, there are many of you who I have known for a long time now, and I care about you and want to support you in whatever way I can. On the other hand, I get that just seeing my name (or worse, my signature, which I don't know how to turn off for individual posts) may be painful. I choose not to post anything here about how I am doing because I know that everyone can read Q&P if they want to know, and I also know that people may not want to know and that's ok. I would be curious to hear from folks currently TTC whether it is more helpful for me (or other not-currently-TTC people) to post at all (I'm thinking about support or advice, NOT about how I am doing) or if it would be better for me just to read along. I'm happy to do whatever is most helpful.
post #57 of 318

joy.gifJust popping in to say hello from the airport on my way to NYC :) DP is already there, she left yesterday.. Last night was the only the 1st time we spent the night away from each other.. so weird not having here there.....

 

We are 12 DPO and DP has swollen feet, breasts are tender and no sign of AF yet.. We will test Friday or Sat... 

 

Krista have u tested yet? Looking forward to meeting up with you on the 21st

Kelly those are amazing beta #'s . I hope you and DP can make it out the 21st for our picnic !!

Sarah.... Baby dust to you..dust.gif

post #58 of 318

krista, i'm sorry you feel bad about coming to qc amidst those of us who are very newly pregnant reporting our beta progressions.  early pregnancy is a pretty scary time.  i feel comfortable staying on this side until we have completed our 2 u/s at the re's office before officially moving over to q&p.  that is what i did with ds2 and that is what i plan to do this time.  i think some other recent grads - librarylady and 2ez - did the same in the beginning.  if the consensus is that i shouldn't keep everyone updated on qc then i will stop posting until i'm ready to move over to q&p. 

 

i certainly don't mean to make anyone uncomfortable and i wish i could wave a magic wand and give everyone on here their bfps. 

 

g

post #59 of 318
I agree with Krista that the pregnancy comments makes visiting the website difficult....I know that you "never know" what will happen...but for now, being pregnant is a thing to celebrate and sometimes I don't want to read such things when I have had another huge disappointment. Of course I want to know initially (and it's great to hear about the first beta numbers) but it does sting a bit reading recurring updates...Q&P understands the scariness too...I was a part of it for maybe 2 weeks before I miscarried...

I haven't even been trying as long as some people here so when it makes me as upset as it does, I can't imagine how it makes them feel.
post #60 of 318

I've been reading qc and q&p for a few years now. I started posting myself after my first m/c (so, in 2008 I guess?). The people on these threads have helped me through 2 miscarriages and a very nervous first trimester when pregnant with DD!

 

For me, and this is just for me, I don't think everyone needs to feel the same way I do (what a boring place the world would be!), I feel like it's important for me to be able to celebrate and cheer on other people's successes. Everyone who bothers to join this online community wants to be a mom just as bad as I do and goes through the same emotions that I do. I feel honoured that I can share in other's journeys. So, if part of that journey means that people who are newly pregnant want to continue to post on qc for support while they wait out the rollercoaster, often traumatic, first few months, then I'm fine with it. If they want to jump into q&p and not update on qc then I'm fine with that also. I will admit that I have had moments of jealousy where I think "why the &%@$ isn't it happening for me but it's happening for everyone else???!!!" However, I don't want my jealousy or frustration to edit other people and cut off their support system.

 

Interesting conversation...will be watching to see how others feel!

 

In other news! My temp still hasn't gone up significantly, yet I was "sure" I was going to O yesterday. I had a moment this morning when I wondered if my thermometer battery was failing (I bought it in 2008!) but I'm not sure. I guess I should buy a new one just in case. I got a positive opk, ewcm, sore nipples, cramps.....but no temp rise. Will see what happens tomorrow....if it doesn't go up I guess I'll assume I didn't O after all. And then I have no idea what to do!!

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