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My teen daughter keeps getting out of control

post #1 of 7
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My daughter is 15. There is a family history of bipolar disorder on the birth family's side. First, I thought her bad behavior was PMS. But, now it just is clearly not related to her cycles. But it does go in cycles. The last few days, she has been so nasty. She has called me a b-i-- - - bad word a few times. She has told her brother to F off, only used the words. She has declared again, that she hates her siblings. She has informed me and her dad to not have sex anymore. She tells me she acts this way because she is a spoiled brat and I raised her to be that way, so therefore, I am a bad mother. 2 or 3 years ago, I had her tested for learning disability because she had an auditory processing disorder (which does not cause this type of behavior) and they said they thought she had an emerging mood disorder. She calls her dad a drunk and a loser (my dh does drink, but he is not a drunk, it is just I do not drink at all so next to me, he drinks more than me). She flat out tells me she won't do anything I ask. She is just unreachable when like this.

 

She is not on drugs. In fact, she is a straight A student. But when she goes in to nasty mode, it is awful. Oh, and she hit her brother. I can tell her she cannot do that, but she actually smirked at me and told me she did it because it is my fault because I am a bad mother and raised her wrong!

 

Other times, she will be pleasant and kind and nice. But when she is in these modes, no one can handle her or deal with her.

post #2 of 7
I go pretty psycho before a period so that might be part of the problem....have you looking into diet? I know a lot of women who had hormonal issues related to how they were eating.....and if she is bipolar she might just need medication to help her through that.
post #3 of 7

Maybe she is such a good girl at school (Grade A and all that) that she is using you and the family as a bit of a punching bag because you are safe????

 

My 12 yr old is not always pleasant to live with.  She has is nasty, hyper sensitive and picks away at her sister to the point where I am ready to scream.  Things that have helped:

 

-going to counselling.  It helped a little.  I think it helped me more than her, lol, as the counsellor affirmed that i was not nuts and this behaviour was not OK.  It also showed DD that I took our relationship seriously

 

-  Increased one and one time.  I have also increased showing her affection, and inviting her to do things so she feels included (even if i think she will not want to do it - she likes being invited)

 

-sending her to her room at the first sign of an issue.  I do not want things to spiral out of control.  Cooling off is important for everyone.  Unless the issue is complicated, I have taken to not hashing it out when she comes down - as that always led to more blow-up (she was determined to blame everything on me, a button for me).  So once the cool off period is over we go about our day.  She is going to blow up - I do not have to go there with her.

 

Lastly, do not believe her when she screams that you are an awful mother.  I doubt it very much. She is pushing your buttons.  She may not be doing it on purpose, but she sounds unhappy and is looking for someone to blame, looking to spread the misery around.  

post #4 of 7

Please please please get her to a psychiatrist! You and she need to know if she has bipolar disorder!

 

She should be in individual therapy. And you all may try family counseling as well.

 

I figured out that my bipolar is related to my hormone levels. My hormones when I was a teenager/ young adult and when I was pregnant caused much more severe and frequent bipolar cycles than other times in my life. I'm in my mid-30's now, not pregnant or nursing, and my cycles are under control with fish oil and the occasional homeopathic sedative. I needed something stronger as a teenager, though.

 

If you can see her words and actions as symptoms of a disease, it may help you create an emotional distance so you don't feel so hurt by them, or get wrapped up in verbal (or physical) altercations. You need to keep your cool. You need to love her unconditionally, and show her that. Even if she pushes you away. She's a ship being tossed about on wild waves during a severe storm, and you have to be her safe harbor. Do NOT give up on her or your relationship with her. My mother gave up on me. She had enough of my bipolar mood swings and threw me out when I was 16. The experience nearly killed me, and I will never forgive her.

 

She may speak or act in manipulative ways. This may not be intentional, but rather the only way she can communicate her needs when her head is in chaos. Please try to understand this. For me, I felt as though I was trapped behind my eyes and not in control of the things that came out of my mouth. They just came. And the emotions were overwhelming to the point of being unbearable.

 

Always remember, Bipolar Disorder is a potentially deadly disease. It is life-threatening. Make yourself aware of what self-harm and suicidal gestures to look for.

 

Good luck.

 

post #5 of 7
Thread Starter 


Thank you.

 

For evaluation...would I take her to a psychologist first? My experience with psychiatrists is that the often just do medication and do not spend much time with a child. Where as with psychologists, they spend a lot of time on testing. But both have long waitings lists. (I know this because my son with ADHD has gone all school year with no medication due to the fact that his psychiatrist dropped our insurance last August and we have not been able to get in with anyone since, but the psychologists also had year long waiting lists).

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Originally Posted by lotusdebi View Post

Please please please get her to a psychiatrist! You and she need to know if she has bipolar disorder!

 

She should be in individual therapy. And you all may try family counseling as well.

 

I figured out that my bipolar is related to my hormone levels. My hormones when I was a teenager/ young adult and when I was pregnant caused much more severe and frequent bipolar cycles than other times in my life. I'm in my mid-30's now, not pregnant or nursing, and my cycles are under control with fish oil and the occasional homeopathic sedative. I needed something stronger as a teenager, though.

 

If you can see her words and actions as symptoms of a disease, it may help you create an emotional distance so you don't feel so hurt by them, or get wrapped up in verbal (or physical) altercations. You need to keep your cool. You need to love her unconditionally, and show her that. Even if she pushes you away. She's a ship being tossed about on wild waves during a severe storm, and you have to be her safe harbor. Do NOT give up on her or your relationship with her. My mother gave up on me. She had enough of my bipolar mood swings and threw me out when I was 16. The experience nearly killed me, and I will never forgive her.

 

She may speak or act in manipulative ways. This may not be intentional, but rather the only way she can communicate her needs when her head is in chaos. Please try to understand this. For me, I felt as though I was trapped behind my eyes and not in control of the things that came out of my mouth. They just came. And the emotions were overwhelming to the point of being unbearable.

 

Always remember, Bipolar Disorder is a potentially deadly disease. It is life-threatening. Make yourself aware of what self-harm and suicidal gestures to look for.

 

Good luck.

 



 

post #6 of 7

You know, I have no idea which professional you should go to for a diagnosis. I was diagnosed by a psychiatrist, but that was 20 years ago, and I was in a psych hospital at the time. I don't know how it's done now. Maybe ask in the mental health and special needs forums for information on where to go and what to expect?

 

You're in my thoughts. I know this must be so hard for you all! I expect to experience the parenting side of it in a few more years, and I'm terrified.

post #7 of 7

I agree about asking on the mental health forum for help with insurance issues.

 

Because she is a teen, you have limited time to deal with this. When she is legally an adult, she gets to make her own medical decisions. I have a sister who I'm  99% sure is bi-polar, but she refuses to get help and no one can do it for her.

 

While counseling may help, if she is bi-polar, she may NEED meds, and not getting them for her is no different than not getting meds for illness like diabetes. Talking is great, I'm all for talk therapy combined with meds.

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