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post #21 of 412
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Originally Posted by happysmileylady View Post


The difference is that Americans are cheering the justice of the punishment of one horrific criminal.  "They" were cheering the deaths of thousands of innocent people.

 

 


That doesn't make it different, it just makes it easier for some to swallow. Cheering over someone's death is still cheering over someone's death.

 

I'm in the "I'm happy he's gone, but I don't like to, or want to, cheer over the fact that he's dead and happen to be disconcerted seeing others do it" camp. I make no apologies over the fact that there are other things I think we should be cheering for. 

post #22 of 412
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post #23 of 412
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Originally Posted by insidevoice View Post

Cheering outside the White House following a bawdy rendition of the national anthem... I find myself wondering what the difference is between 'us' and them' when what we all seek seems to be bloodshed, torture, and death. Aren't we supposed to move beyond that at some point?

 

 

 

I think that Obama is trying to, considering how little civilian lives have been lost in Libya under his command, considering how the president gets to define torture and I'm sure Obama understands waterboarding is torture, etc. The difference between us and them is obviously that we aren't flying planes into buildings to kill innocent people; we're attacking those who have attacked us, to disarm them and prevent future attack.

 

There may be backlash, and his supporters will be furious...but read the news, the whole world is cheering USA; the whole world is rejoicing in a world without bin Laden. If I get the chance, I will dance on the man's grave someday. I cheer his death, I cheer our military, and I cheer Obama's leadership.
 


treeoflife - I have a husband who is in the military too and several other loved ones. I have a friend stationed in the UAE right now. I'm worried about him, but not enough to make me NOT celebrate the death of someone who murdered 3,000 Americans including a 2 1/2 year-old little girl, her mama, and her daddy. He can rot.

 

I was 16 years-old when I watched those towers fall, burning, with people jumping out of them screaming. I was told that, without my military ID, I'd have to wait for my father to pick me up at school to take me home--at 11 PM, while our country was under attack. We lived on the Naval Weapons Station, which housed a great deal of our nation's desert war artillery. We were scared to death. We were even more scared as we watched the gunman board our bus the first day after the attacks. Carrying loads of shells and a machine gun, he rode on our bus with us every single day for the next year. They searched under our bus with mirrors everyday; they searched our backpacks. When the lights went out on base, we worried we were finally being attacked over that artillery. We even had some terrorist suspects detained on our base for a while; it heightened our fear.

 

No, I can't bring myself to feel any remorse for anyone including myself cheering bin Laden's death.

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Originally Posted by moonfirefaery View Post

There may be backlash, and his supporters will be furious...but read the news, the whole world is cheering USA; the whole world is rejoicing in a world without bin Laden.


I think that might say more about the media coverage in the USA than it does about the reality of what has happened.  I can assure you the whole world is not cheering. 

 

I am not sorry that Bin Laden is dead but I am very sorry that the scenes of jubilant Americans will be shown around the world.

post #25 of 412
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Most of the friends I have internationally have been shocked at the cheering and celebration in the US.  I really don't think it will do us any favors in the long run to publicly celebrate an act of violence. 

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I am glad that that he is gone but I won't celebrate anyone'd death either. I just wonder if he being gone will really make any difference.

post #27 of 412

Am I the only one who is waiting for some actual physical evidence showing he's dead? No body, no photo, no DNA results (as yet).

post #28 of 412

They ran DNA tests; he has been dead since Friday, but it was announced yesterday because they were waiting for the results. There is supposed to be a picture (which will not be released, IMO) and the body was buried at sea so as not to create a monument. But those who doubt the reports will always doubt; none of what the government presents will convince those doubters.

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They ran DNA tests; he has been dead since Friday, but it was announced yesterday because they were waiting for the results. There is supposed to be a picture (which will not be released, IMO) and the body was buried at sea so as not to create a monument. But those who doubt the reports will always doubt; none of what the government presents will convince those doubters.



Yeah, there are people who still doubt the death of Hitler. 

 

post #30 of 412
where are you getting news he's been dead since friday?
post #31 of 412
In Obama's own words Bin Ladin died Sunday Morning May 1st. They are still awaiting the DNA tests and debating which photo's to show and when.
post #32 of 412

You know I have such mixed feelings about this 

 

Personally, I will not be jumping up and down waving my flag for this death. I too wonder if it will make a difference...the thing is I think the celebrating that's been going on is just as equal as the folks that jumped up and down when they killed people over here...

post #33 of 412

 praying for peace around the world. For me, this is a sad reminder of the division amongst us. 

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Originally Posted by mtiger View Post

Am I the only one who is waiting for some actual physical evidence showing he's dead? No body, no photo, no DNA results (as yet).





 

I won't believe it before I see some sort of proof either! Its just too convenient that they did a water burial!!
post #35 of 412
CNN just posted "DNA confirms Bin Laden dead"
post #36 of 412

Convenient that he was buried at sea.No proof of death. And when you think about it does it change anything? Was it worth it to spend millions,have thousands of soilders die over the years,and kill hundreds of thousands of innocent people(women and children) in the countries we invaded?

 

IMO it was not worth it. Our nation has created far more enimies than allies. Our military does not always respect human rights. We tortured,raped,and killed a lot of people while we occupied their coutries.How do we justify the death of so many?Do we blame it all on Bin Laden and his followers?

 

Israel does it better.When they have someone specific  they want  to kill they have their elite group go in and kill that person....and then they leave.It is unfortunate our nation did not do that in place of  invading countries with full military force.

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Originally Posted by mama2landon View Post

 

It's not his death per se that we are cheering, but the notion of justice. 

JUSTICE?!!! what justice?!!! 

 

there is sooo much more to this story.

 

justice would be to look at actions to find out why Bin Laden was created even in the first place. 

 

more people are dead because of Bush, not Bin Laden. he became the excuse.

 

right now i am not celebrating. and yes i have been directly affected by 9/11 too. its wasnt just a US thing. it was a world thing. 

 

instead i am full of suspicion. 

 

another faux pas over his body. more reason to hate. 

 

i am sitting here thinking when are we ever going to wake up and look at our policies and stop creating situations where people like Osama was born. 

 

how long is the secret document period? 

 

eyesroll.gif my eyes instead because now the politicians get a break from answering questions on unemployment and the economy. 

 

and i question. did we really not know? or did we actually carry it out now before osama died so we can say we did it. 
 

btw... did you know - just a weird coincidence - that Hitler's death was announced on may 1st too. yup people. may 1, 1945.

post #38 of 412

Regarding Libya I read that recently NATO killed 4 of Muammar al-Gaddafi 's grandchildren.All were under the age of 12. Sad that we disregard the lives of those children so that we can assist in the take over of a government.We always find a way to justify the killing of innocent people,or we simply ignore that it occured.Similar to the 9 boys killed in Afgahnistan recently while collecting firewood. Children caught up in wars that will never really have a winner.

post #39 of 412

I have to say meemee, you are spot on 
 

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Originally Posted by meemee View Post


 

JUSTICE?!!! what justice?!!! 

 

there is sooo much more to this story.

 

justice would be to look at actions to find out why Bin Laden was created even in the first place. 

 

more people are dead because of Bush, not Bin Laden. he became the excuse.

 

right now i am not celebrating. and yes i have been directly affected by 9/11 too. its wasnt just a US thing. it was a world thing. 

 

instead i am full of suspicion. 

 

another faux pas over his body. more reason to hate. 

 

i am sitting here thinking when are we ever going to wake up and look at our policies and stop creating situations where people like Osama was born. 

 

how long is the secret document period? 

 

eyesroll.gif my eyes instead because now the politicians get a break from answering questions on unemployment and the economy. 

 

and i question. did we really not know? or did we actually carry it out now before osama died so we can say we did it. 
 

btw... did you know - just a weird coincidence - that Hitler's death was announced on may 1st too. yup people. may 1, 1945.



 

post #40 of 412

I can't say as I ever feel good about the death of a human being.  But it's about time they got him.  I do think this is justice. 

 

Evidence:  I guess you believe the US government about this or you don't. shrug.gif  The dna evidence proves he was bin Laden.   He was shot in the head so making a photo of him public would be controversial.  He was buried at sea so his followers can't make a monument at his grave site. 

 

Just a reminder that while Bin Laden hated the US, he said that his inspiration for the 9/11 attack was Israeli aircraft bombing towers in Lebanon in 1982. 

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