Thanks for the feedback -- not sure where we are, but the variety of thoughts helps. I was in a very similar position in 1st grade, and I'm glad that I wasn't accelerated. Socially, I didn't really come into my own until late in my high school years.
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Acceleration doesn't fix your academic problems but it can improve them. Plus, K, 1st and 2nd are the worst years. In 3rd grade, you get more open-ended curriculum that a child can bring up to their own level. It's really not uncommon to have kids in 3rd grade at the middle school level in reading. The gifted child can still be years advanced but it's not so shocking and easier to accommodate in the higher grades.
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If you are unsure, advocate for subject acceleration first and see how it goes.
I think that's where we are first - I'm really worried about 2nd grade because I remember being bored silly in 2nd grade and I'm not nearly as heart-on-the-sleeve as dd is. 2nd grade is a 'skills consolidation' grade for most kids, but when you've got your skills down pat and you don't need that much repetition to get them down pat, it's torture. Once she's in 4th or 5th grade, a few kids will have come closer and the possibility for going more in depth (which would be good for dd as she loves to immerse herself in ideas/books) would be great.
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Well, I was grade-accelerated and I'm glad I was. Twice in elementary school, and I was somewhat late going through puberty and on the 10th percentile for height. In middle school I was naive enough to be relatively oblivious to the social pettiness, and young enough that I was not considered a social contender and was therefore treated gently, more like someone's younger sister than a competitor.
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Thanks - it's nice to hear of situations where it did work well. I'm not sure dd is so far ahead that 2 grade accelerations make sense. She also is tall for her age, and likely to hit puberty early (I did). She's also not oblivious to social pettiness. She's highly incensed by it. I don't think I'd have trouble letting her run with her classmates, but then she's 6, going on 7, so it's not like it's a reality yet. She's got enough strength of will that I trust her inner compass.
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IMNSHO, a skip is ideally for when a school cannot otherwise accommodate a child in grade.
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It sounds like they do accommodate her pretty well right now, though that they may not be able to continue that next year. That puts skipping squarely on the table. I would go through the IAS as a check for myself and the school first, though. IAS seems to push a skip more than I would - I see it as a last-ditch effort, whereas IAS does tend to advocate that eligible kids who can should. {I saw a copy obtained through university ILL}.
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Another mom pointed out to me that a concern of doing this between rooms might be to make your child feel as though she's a visitor in her own class. That would be a point to think through knowing your own child.
Thank you for articulating this! That's exactly what was rattling around in the back of my brain and I couldn't find the words for. For me, a grade skip is a 'last resort' when they can't accommodate her otherwise. And since I don't know what it'll be like next year, I'm having a hard time judging what to ask for.
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I got an IAS through university ILL as well, and when I looked at it, it was pretty clear for me that the factors were against skipping dd, and I didn't have anyone else fill it out. I got it more out of curiosity than anything else. But that was a year ago and her academics have skyrocketed since then.
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I am worried about the 'visitor in her own classroom' aspect. She already feels a bit like this, I think. The good news is that they all move around for reading, so many kids switch teachers for reading as they try to have skill-level groups work together. Math is a different story, though. She's one of about 8 kids in 1st grade being given enrichment for that, and it's only part of the time. So, she's not with her classmates for several good chunks of the day. If she goes to another grade for reading and math, is she going to know any of the kids in her grade?
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Have you gone through the Iowa Acceleration Scale?
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Have the teachers given you feedback regarding her social skills, relative to her age mates and when with older kids? What about talking to lunch time monitors as well, as they may have insight as well.
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I'm currently sitting on the wrong end of not skipping a daughter who we should have, so my perspective is skewed.Â
No, and you're right, we should. I have to find out if my district has it, and if they don't, how to get it done before the end of the year. I need her current reading, math and classroom teacher to fill it out. I don't know if her math teacher is going to be at our school next year.
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Tough one. I'm glad I don't have to make a choice like this with my DD, who has always sonded similar to yours and is working on pretty much an identical level. I do not think skipping would be a great choice for my DD, either. However, in your shoes, I guess I might consider it. It might just be socially better. It's important to keep in mind that the aggregate evidence favors skipping, and that anecdotes do not equal data (I know you know this).
I like the idea of the trial run. How does your DD do with older kids generally? While my DD often seems immature with her grade peers, I sometimes notice that she actually plays very well with older children.
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Ugh.. I know that the academic data supports skipping more than anecdotal data speaks against it. I just wish it were an easy decision one way or the other. Socially, she's mixed. Sometimes she plays fine with older kids, sometimes not. It's really much like her behavior with kids her own age. Dd has definite ideas about how the world should run, and gets frustrated when the world does not comply. Combined with a very age-appropriate ego-centrism (getting better, but it's still a lot about her), we have some issues. She doesn't play that well with the other girl in the neighborhood who's her age -- partly temperament, partly different interests, partly because dd can be real pain. She doesn't do well with older girls' social jockeying -- she sees it, sees it for what it is, and but can't figure out how to respond. She melts down instead.
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Dd does play well with kids her own age at church (who are probably closer to her intellectual peers; we've got a group of frighteningly bright 1st graders.) In fact, one major thing making me hesitant is that dd's best friend from church is in the same grade, and they'll be together in middle school. (They're in different schools right now.) This little girl is as bright as dd is (very bright family). If we skip dd, she'd be separated from her friend.
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Ok, I think I'm going to talk to the school about the IAS, and about subject acceleration for next year.