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Is it safe to leave a 10 year old and a 7 year old for 1.5 hours while they are asleep?

post #1 of 31
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My neighbor left her 10 yo and 7 yo home alone from about 10:30 PM to midnight.  They were asleep and did not know that she had left.  I'm freaked out by this, but don't know if I'm overreacting?  Please weigh in with your opinion.

Also, she sometimes leaves them home during the day from 4 up to 9 hours while she is at work.  They have a cell phone and a land line to call her, and I'm often home with my kids.  What do you all think of that?

Thanks for any input.

post #2 of 31

For ME, both scenarios make me nervous.

post #3 of 31

this is going to vary widely on the kids, the developmental levels, what they have been taught, how they react in  situations, how they get along with each other etc.

 

My 10 yr old is fine being home alone, while I dont leave with out telling him, I could gently wake him to let him know I needed to leave for some reason.  I could also leave him while I went to work and I'm actually working up to this.

 

Not all families function the same way.

post #4 of 31

I started babysitting when I was 10.  But I was down the street from my parents.  We only leave our 11-year-old alone for short, daytime periods, such as if he's working on homework, his Dad's at a meeting and I have to run to the grocery down the block, for milk.  And he has a cell phone (so I could be back in about 90 seconds, if necessary), plus we have neighbors across the street and next door who are like family.  Even those miniscule stints of staying home alone are few and far between, not the norm.  If I have a big, 1-1/2 hour trip to the market, I'd take him with me.  He was not left at home alone at all, when he was 7.

 

Many places actually have laws about how old kids have to be, to stay home alone.  Seven is definitely under that age and ten might be, as well - depending where you are.  That said, I think what you've described is a scenario that you certainly don't want to MIMIC, with your own kids, but NOT a scenario that should make you call CPS.  

 

Perhaps you can communicate to their Mom about the hours you're home and give her a card with your # on it, so the kids can call if they need something while she's gone.

post #5 of 31

I have no issue leaving my 5 and 10 year olds home while they are awake.  Never for 9 hours, but I've never had a reason to.  

 

After seeing some info on how kids do not hear smoke detectors when they are asleep I wouldn't be ok leaving them asleep.  For some reason children don't hear the high pitched screech the same way adults do and according to this report, they rarely wake up for them.  Fire would be my only middle of the night concern (besides waking up scared) so if they might not hear the alarm, I wouldn't leave them.

post #6 of 31

7 and 10 year olds might panic upon waking up to find no adults in the house.  They could create all sorts of awful scenarios in their heads and get into a panic.  I would never leave a child alone in the night without their knowing.  However, I also would at MINIMUM leave a note even for older teenagers and my husband if I were leaving while everyone was asleep.  It is just common courtesy to let people in the home know where you are and when you will be back.

 

I babysat my brother full time when I was 11 and he was 6 - 40 hours a week plus overtime when my mom needed to take it.  leaving a 10 and 7 year old home alone, assuming they have the maturity to handle it, wouldn't phase me in the least.

post #7 of 31
You know you can do all the house safety stuff and kid prep all you want.. accidents and mishaps can still happen. I would not leave sleeping children alone at night. I might leave a ten year for a couple of hours if absolutly necessary but not in charge of younger sibs. We had a law in Georgia that kids must be 12 to be "in charge" of other kids.
post #8 of 31

I would be really upset if my husband left in the the middle of the night while I was asleep without telling me or at least leaving a note.  Never mind little kids.  Sure, they probably won't wake up, but if they do, they would be terrified.    I would never leave my kids home alone while they sleep without letting them know.

post #9 of 31
No, it's not safe. She is risking a whole lot by doing that. Where, exactly, does she have to be?

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post #10 of 31

** also what people SAY and what people actually DO are 2 completely different things.   Your neighbor could think she bragging to you, could be trying to compare notes to see what you do, could be trying to get some babysitting out of you etc.  You really dont know what goes on in her house.

post #11 of 31

I'm in the UK and that would be illegal here so it's moot, i wouldn't do it due to the legality.

 

I think in general it would be hard for a child to be prepared to cope alone if they didn't KNOW they were alone.  I mean, imagine being 7 years old and waking to find your mom is gone, that'd be pretty scary IMO.  WAY different if she told you she would be gone, left you emergency numbers and a time she'd be back and so on.

 

I wouldn't leave them in the day either, both are illegal here, By 11 or so i would leave that child (not in charge of a younger child though) while i ran to the grocery store or something.  But not for hours.

post #12 of 31
If I were at a neighbor's house, so really close, and they knew I was going so if they woke up they wouldn't be afraid, I'd be OK with it. Not this situation where the kids don't know though. Also, during the day for short trips I might be OK with at that age, but not for 4 to 9 hours. Maybe a half-hour run to the grocery store or something. Kids that age can use the phone. I wouldn't leave a 10-year-old alone with a 4-year-old, but I would be ok with a 10-year-old and a 7-year-old.
post #13 of 31
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Originally Posted by philomom View Post

You know you can do all the house safety stuff and kid prep all you want.. accidents and mishaps can still happen. I would not leave sleeping children alone at night. I might leave a ten year for a couple of hours if absolutly necessary but not in charge of younger sibs. We had a law in Georgia that kids must be 12 to be "in charge" of other kids.


Is the law new. Last thing I heard was it was just dcfs guidelines.

Agree, leaving without telling isn't nice for anyone, adult or child.
post #14 of 31

I do not think it is a good idea to leave the house unannounced when people are sleeping. Just last year I was sleeping and sometimes DH stays up much later to watch a movie. I got up to the let the cat out (all groggy) and locked the door with the slide lock.

 

What I didn’t know is that DH had left the house to run to Walmart (it’s open 24/7) and I locked him out unintentionally. He had to pound on the door, which scared the crap out me.

 

Leaving the house while your kids are sleeping, without telling them seems mean. What would they think if they got up to and couldn’t find you? And most people are not at their most alert state to handle situations when they’ve  been fast asleep. Is that the best time to trust your kids decision making skills?

 

Rhianna

post #15 of 31

It really depends. Law aspect yeah its wrong. however I think it goes more into the maturity of the oldest and such. I was babysitting my brother daily for a few hours starting around 8. Babysitting other people's kids around 9/10. Some lived in town close by others on farms. 

 

 

post #16 of 31

oh goodness...no, not ever. I have popped to the shop, 2 mins away...walking. i don't even feel comfortable doing that and have done it maybe 3 times. I couldn't imagine. My kids are nowhere near mature enough to handle an emergency or  wake up and find themselves alone. Plus, what if something out of the ordinary happens? Someone knocks the door/ phone rings/home invasion/fire/an accident???? I know unlikely but would prevent me from relaxing or being at peace with that situation.

post #17 of 31

Where I live, you have to be 12 or 13 (can't remember exactly) to stay home alone and 13 to babysit, even siblings.  What happened was that some time ago, people were pulling their 10 year olds out of the child care center/family child care homes because the kids could "technically" stay home alone...then when that child turned 11, parents would put them through the babysitting course so they could babysit their siblings.  (Money-saving measure.  I was babysitting my 4-years younger brother at age 10/11 all day so my mom didn't have to pay a sitter.)  I guess a few immature children who could not handle the responsibility got into some trouble, or something tragic happened and the child did not know what to do, and so a policy was adopted that you could not stay home alone prior to age 12/13.  (Sometimes I swear, though, it is to keep $$$ in the daycare center and family child care homes pockets)

 

post #18 of 31

Dh and I have left our 10 year old home alone for ~60 minutes, and at this point in time, that's all I feel comfortable doing. And honestly, that's all HE feels comfortable doing. If his little sister is around, then we get a babysitter.

 

I would not feel comfortable in your neighbor's situation, even for the 90 minutes, because I don't think that my 10 year old can handle setting limits for the 7 year old. I wonder too if the kids know that she's going out for that period of time. I think it's one thing to leave your kids alone when they know it, it's something completely different if you're just suddenly gone. Maybe my kids are unusual, but even at 7 and 10 they wake up a lot at night. If we weren't home, they'd be completely panicked. No way would I leave kids that age unsupervised during the day. We had a neighbor last summer who couldn't afford daycare for her 11 year old (she could barely afford it for her 6 year old). So, he stayed home 3 days a week while she worked (she took Mondays as vacation time and they were with their dad on Fridays). That 11 year old spent a lot of time at our house. In that situation, we were happy to help. Partly because we knew the mom's situation and partly because he's a decent kid. He wasn't a pain to have around. It was our summer community service.

 

This website has an interesting list for laws/guidelines on when it's OK to leave a child home alone. http://www.latchkey-kids.com/latchkey-kids-age-limits.htm Interestingly, most states don't have a law. Our does, and it's 10. I don't know if a 10 year old watching a 7 year old would be considered legal.

 

Appropriate care for kids aged 10-12 is a real issue. Most are OK for a bit of time by themselves, a few are OK for longer periods of time. But the reality is that many will let their desire to fit in socially override their good judgment, most don't have the kind of judgment skills you need to employ in an emergency, and most really don't want to be home for extended periods of time. But if your family is struggling financially, what do you do?

 

 

post #19 of 31

Only two states, Illinois and Maryland, have laws regulating the ages that children can be left home alone.

 

http://www.childwelfare.gov/pubs/factsheets/homealone.cfm

 

I would never leave my children (9.5 and 7) home alone while they were sleeping. I can't imagine doing that for a very long time. Like late teens. If something were to happen, they may be too groggy or unable to wake up and deal with it. At this point, we will leave them for 30 minutes or less if we want to go for a short walk at our local botanic garden (3 minute drive from our house). In the fall, there may be one evening each week where they get home from school and dh or I won't be home for an hour or so. They are very self-sufficient and rule-oriented. We also live in a great neighborhood where everyone knows one another and looks out for each other.

 

FTR, my mom is a former CPS supervisor who allowed her 9 and 10-year-old daughters to come home from school without a parent home, and stay home alone on snow days. We also stopped having babysitters in the summer at that age. She never left us home at all during the night. Not until we were in college.

post #20 of 31

I would only leave a 10 yr old watching a 7 year old alone for an hour so.  No night-time babysitting, no sleeping and no 4-9 hour days.dizzy.gif  

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