Would you fly right now? Would you let your kids? - Page 2

[mattemma04]

I would let her go with grandma,but I would not let my child fly alone. I understand your concern.When my dd and dh went to Turkey it was 3 or 4 plans there and the same back.Any plane could have been highjacked.Any plane could have crashed. We face the risk of death the moment we are born. I was scared to let them go,but they had a great time and are back home safe.

You never know the last time you will see your loved ones.We had an accident occur right in front of us (2 days ago)on the way home from school.Could have been us that was hit instead of the car in front of us.Love them and enjoy life while you can!

Pat downs are a momentary discomfort,and your dd will understand that it is done to protect her and others.

[Dr.Worm]

I so agree with you.  We don't know what will happen at any time. We also had a horrible car accident last weekend where we live.  I don't want her to live in fear.  Thank you so much.

 

Originally Posted by mattemma04 

I would let her go with grandma,but I would not let my child fly alone. I understand your concern.When my dd and dh went to Turkey it was 3 or 4 plans there and the same back.Any plane could have been highjacked.Any plane could have crashed. We face the risk of death the moment we are born. I was scared to let them go,but they had a great time and are back home safe.

You never know the last time you will see your loved ones.We had an accident occur right in front of us (2 days ago)on the way home from school.Could have been us that was hit instead of the car in front of us.Love them and enjoy life while you can!

Pat downs are a momentary discomfort,and your dd will understand that it is done to protect her and others.

[choli]

Originally Posted by alittlesandy 

I sympathize with your fears, but I think you should encourage her to do it and be positive about it. I would worry about instilling a life-long fear of flying in her. I know several people who refuse to fly, and it is crippling to them. They have passed up promotions, avoided family members, etc. because of this fear.

Statistically, your daughter is MUCH, MUCH, MUCH safer in plane than in a car.

Lifetime odds:

Odds of dying in a plane crash: 1 in 9.2 million

Odds of dying in a terrorist attack: 1 in 6.2 million

Odds of dying in a car accident: 1 in 82

ETA: I forgot to add that we fly with our son all the time. He has flown eleven times (he's two), twice out of the country, and he will be flying next month to visit grandparents (though not by himself).

I agree with this.

I flew last week. There were advanced scanners at Boston Logan, which didn't bother me at all. You could choose a pat down INSTEAD of the scanner if for some reason you have issues with it. On the way back, no scanners, no pat down.

I think the ability to travel independently is an important skill, and one that I tried to instill in my daughters pretty young.
 

[Dr.Worm]

Thank you choli.  You guys are making me feel a lot better about this.

 

Originally Posted by choli 

I agree with this.

I flew last week. There were advanced scanners at Boston Logan, which didn't bother me at all. You could choose a pat down INSTEAD of the scanner if for some reason you have issues with it. On the way back, no scanners, no pat down.

I think the ability to travel independently is an important skill, and one that I tried to instill in my daughters pretty young.
 

[Dr.Worm]

My mom said that kids under 18 don't need a photo id to travel in the US.  Dd's grandma thinks she needs a birth certificate and a photo id....who is right?  And does it make any difference that she is traveling with her grandma and not a parent?

[Dr.Worm]

bumping so i know what to tell grandma lol

[Sourire]

I can't comment on the photo id thing since I'm from Canada.

However I'd like to chime in with those that are saying that pat downs are nothing to be worried about. I fly all the time and I always choose to get a pat down instead of the scanner (on the rare times that I have to make a choice). The pat down will be done by someone of the same sex as you who is very professional, and it only lasts about 10 seconds. It never even occurred to me that someone might be worried about it, and I don't feel the least bit "violated" when I get one.

[Dr.Worm]

Thank you Sourire!
 

Originally Posted by Sourire 

I can't comment on the photo id thing since I'm from Canada.

However I'd like to chime in with those that are saying that pat downs are nothing to be worried about. I fly all the time and I always choose to get a pat down instead of the scanner (on the rare times that I have to make a choice). The pat down will be done by someone of the same sex as you who is very professional, and it only lasts about 10 seconds. It never even occurred to me that someone might be worried about it, and I don't feel the least bit "violated" when I get one.

[les_oiseau]

My personal opinion... I would find a way to make a road trip work.  Not that I agree with refraining from doing something based on fear, but rather based on the principal that the pat downs (maybe not always implemented but the ones they have declared they have the right to perform) are unnecessary and violation of personal rights, and if you support them by buying their products (tickets) right now you are basically agreeing that they can take this right to privacy away from anyone flying.

My kids are 4 and 2, there is no way I would take them on a plane and risk them being touched, however non intrusive or non groping it feels. No one has the right to violate my kids privacy like that. At 11 I would nurture my daughter's desire to keep her private places untouched by strangers and encourage her to feel protective of those areas.

Not meaning to put a damper on your plans which sound fun, and I totally understand why you want to let her go. Just adding my 2 cents.

[Doodlebugsmom]

We took the kids' birth certificates, but nobody asked to see them. No photo id required. At JFK, a check-in lady did ask my children their names to make sure they matched those on the ticket. She was very nice about it.

[Dr.Worm]

Yeah, I get what you're saying and you do make good points.  I let dd decide how she felt about it. She told me she is ok with it as long as grandma is there with her.  I think she was freaked about going thru all of that alone....if she would've said she still didn't want to go I would've respected that because it is her body.

 

Originally Posted by les_oiseau 

My personal opinion... I would find a way to make a road trip work.  Not that I agree with refraining from doing something based on fear, but rather based on the principal that the pat downs (maybe not always implemented but the ones they have declared they have the right to perform) are unnecessary and violation of personal rights, and if you support them by buying their products (tickets) right now you are basically agreeing that they can take this right to privacy away from anyone flying.

My kids are 4 and 2, there is no way I would take them on a plane and risk them being touched, however non intrusive or non groping it feels. No one has the right to violate my kids privacy like that. At 11 I would nurture my daughter's desire to keep her private places untouched by strangers and encourage her to feel protective of those areas.

Not meaning to put a damper on your plans which sound fun, and I totally understand why you want to let her go. Just adding my 2 cents.

[Dr.Worm]

Thank you!!

 

Originally Posted by Doodlebugsmom 

We took the kids' birth certificates, but nobody asked to see them. No photo id required. At JFK, a check-in lady did ask my children their names to make sure they matched those on the ticket. She was very nice about it.