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6/14/11 at 2:24pm



 

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Originally Posted by bunny's mama View Post

i'm jewish and have been to quite a few bris ceremonies where the babies are completely quiet and calm. they give them a bit of wine, put some emla cream on the penis to numb it and the baby is held the whole time in someone's arms. so maybe that's it. the last one i went to the baby screamed bloody murder though...it was awful. and my poor DS says "why are they doing that mama?" (he's intact, despite our religion).

 

so anyway, yes, it is possible for a baby to endure the whole thing quietly sleeping, and not passed out from trauma. most jews will tell you that they've seen it many times.


So, if I understand this, the baby is drugged with wine, numbed with a topical anesthetic, then held in someone's arms, perhaps tightly?  Hmm, does not sound like it is painless, clam or quiet to me.

 

As others have said, even if it could be made painless, it is still wrong.  It is against our society's standards for human rights and bodily integrity.  It is not in the best interests of the child.  If the only justification is that the parents want it, for wahtever reason, that is not a good reason.

 

Regards
 

 

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