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post #21 of 51

Awww, all the babies are so big now! I can't believe it's been a year. 

Edie is walking-- she took her first steps at the end of May and is pretty much totally bipedal now. She still only has two teeth, which she's had for 2.5 months. I'm dreading her getting a bunch all at once. She's tall but skinny (~18 lbs) and she looks so young with only two teeth, people are shocked to see her walking around. 

She hasn't learned any new words lately, but has the same few she had before she started working on walking-- mama, daddy, tickle tickle, kitty, dog, hi. 

We're working on nightweaning and moving her to her own bed. We moved at the beginning of the month and now she has her own room with a floor bed, bookshelf o' toys, and her wardrobe. I nurse her to sleep then put her down in her room, and she comes in with us when she wakes up (usually around 2). The hours of 2-6 are a crapshoot-- some days she doesn't wake after she goes back to sleep in our room, others she is up every 1-2 hours. I try not to nurse her but if I am too tired I give in. The other night she was up for over an hour, I didn't nurse her and she kept going back and forth between her sippy and pacifier. We're hoping to get rid of the paci soon, but she only uses it at night and I don't want to take it away until she's nightweaned. 

post #22 of 51

expat, that playhouse is great!  I showed the pictures to DH and he thinks he might make one too. biggrinbounce.gif

 

Where did flip flop come from?  It was so random, I was taking DS from his high chair after dinner to start getting him ready for bed.  He often kicks his legs like a dolphin when I pick him up, and I usually say "kick kick" to him but for some reason this time I said "flip flop".  I said it a few more times to cheer him up (he doesn't like leaving the dinner table) and he said it back to me.  Then he said it again a few minutes later.

 

MJB, good luck with the nightweaning.  DH asked me the other day when I thought we'd move DS to his own room but I don't feel like he is anywhere near ready yet - it is very comforting for him to have us near him. Sometimes he will slightly wake up, look over at me, smile, and go back to sleep.

 

ETA: expat, so sorry to hear the sleep has gotten worse again! hug2.gif  Do you think he might be teething again?

post #23 of 51
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We're working on nightweaning and moving her to her own bed. We moved at the beginning of the month and now she has her own room with a floor bed, bookshelf o' toys, and her wardrobe. I nurse her to sleep then put her down in her room, and she comes in with us when she wakes up (usually around 2). The hours of 2-6 are a crapshoot-- some days she doesn't wake after she goes back to sleep in our room, others she is up every 1-2 hours. I try not to nurse her but if I am too tired I give in. The other night she was up for over an hour, I didn't nurse her and she kept going back and forth between her sippy and pacifier. We're hoping to get rid of the paci soon, but she only uses it at night and I don't want to take it away until she's nightweaned. 


How is the nightweaning going? We are planning to nightwean K in the fall after our summer holiday. I was torn over this decision, but I came to the realization that sometimes I need to stray past what I've set in my head as what's best for K and consider the big picture of what's best for our family. I was really going into a supreme mama-guilt trip over how hard it will be for him etc. but I've gotten past that (somewhat). This will be tough for him though. He won't take a pacifier or anything.

 

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expat, that playhouse is great!  I showed the pictures to DH and he thinks he might make one too. biggrinbounce.gif



MJB, good luck with the nightweaning.  DH asked me the other day when I thought we'd move DS to his own room but I don't feel like he is anywhere near ready yet - it is very comforting for him to have us near him. Sometimes he will slightly wake up, look over at me, smile, and go back to sleep.

 

ETA: expat, so sorry to hear the sleep has gotten worse again! hug2.gif  Do you think he might be teething again?

 

Thanks! We had so much fun making it and DS seems to like it- I think he will get more actual use out of it when he is a little older. For now he likes going in and out through the door and the crawl hole, eating the flowers, and putting stuff in the mailbox.

 

I can't imagine having DS in his own room yet...especially since I'd be having to get up and go to it a billion times a night! But yeah, he's nowhere near ready for that! I think the only reason he is reasonably content in his crib is because he can still literally reach out and touch me if wants to. He can probably still smell and hear us too.

 

DS does have his two top teeth coming in- but they've already popped through.

 

 

post #24 of 51

Nightweaning is going pretty well! Edie has some teeth coming in which aren't helping. Here's how it went last night:

10pm: put her down in her room asleep

4am: woke up, came in my room but went back to sleep without nursing

6:30am: insisted on nursing

9am: woke up for day

 

I'm feeling pretty happy about it. She needs a pacifier to fall back asleep without nursing, though. I'm hoping she'll just drop the 4am wake-up and sleep through until 6 in her room, so we can wean her off the paci. 

She's my third and I've nightweaned all 3 between 10-14 months. My oldest never had a paci, my middle son had one until 11 mos., and we're going to get rid of Edie's sometime in the next couple months. We also offer a sippy of water and I'm thinking one with a softer spout might work better at night (we mainly use a klean kanteen or the take n toss sippies). The other two coslept until 5 and 2, so moving her to her own bed is a new experience. She actually sleeps much better in her own room. Her bed is on the floor (Montessori style) but she doesn't get out of it and walk into our room, she just sits up and whines for us. 

post #25 of 51
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Glad to hear that things are going well in the nightweaning department! That's so cool that Evie is walking and can go back and forth from her room to yours! What a big girl! 

I'm happy to hear that you were successful nightweaning at such a "young" (for MDC anyway) age. I was looking for some info and support about it on the breastfeeding forum and a lot of it basically amounted to "just live with nursing all night long...forever!" lol.gif I just am not willing to be a mama posting on the nighttime parenting board about regularly nursing their 2 year old all night long and suffering the sleep deprivation and difficulties that comes with that. Fine for some, but not for me. Sometimes MDC drives me nuts with all the extreme viewpoints. I'm all for breastfeeding and cosleeping and all that great stuff and I'm happy to do those things for as long as I feel it's a positive thing for me and my son, but nightweaning a one-year old is not tantamount to neglect or abuse as some would have us believe. Anyway, I won't rant but I'm just happy to hear about your experience as it's difficult to find any mamas on here talking about nightweaning. 

Thanks.

post #26 of 51

Well, expat, you just take a look at what AP else is about: Balance. If somebody is not happy in your family equation, then something has to change. If you think nightweaning might be the answer, then I guess your next step would be to research it, speak to your partner about it and then plan it. I'm sure you've heard of Dr. Jay Gordon's site with his protocol. It's good. I've used it on my daughter twice with great success. However, my dd was older and could communicate more. Or at least she was able to understand us better than my 11 mo old ds would if I tried weaning him now. I think that's what I'm waiting for with ds - better communication. I'm thinking I'll wait another 6 months. Anyhow, Expat, it all boils down to "if it's broken, fix it."

post #27 of 51

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Glad to hear that things are going well in the nightweaning department! That's so cool that Evie is walking and can go back and forth from her room to yours! What a big girl! 

I'm happy to hear that you were successful nightweaning at such a "young" (for MDC anyway) age. I was looking for some info and support about it on the breastfeeding forum and a lot of it basically amounted to "just live with nursing all night long...forever!" lol.gif I just am not willing to be a mama posting on the nighttime parenting board about regularly nursing their 2 year old all night long and suffering the sleep deprivation and difficulties that comes with that. Fine for some, but not for me. Sometimes MDC drives me nuts with all the extreme viewpoints. I'm all for breastfeeding and cosleeping and all that great stuff and I'm happy to do those things for as long as I feel it's a positive thing for me and my son, but nightweaning a one-year old is not tantamount to neglect or abuse as some would have us believe. Anyway, I won't rant but I'm just happy to hear about your experience as it's difficult to find any mamas on here talking about nightweaning. 

Thanks.



Expat, I completely know what you mean.  I have been feeling lately like I don't fit anywhere.  I have absolutely zero problem with other people continuing to cosleep and night nurse with their 18 month, 2 year, 2.5 year old or older - I don't think it's weird or inappropriate or abnormal I just know it's not for me.  I even peeked in on a more mainstream parenting community and holy crap, those people are nuts.  People wondering if they should rock their 10 WEEK OLD to sleep and wondering why their 5 month old still wakes up twice a night to eat. yikes.gif

 

We do plan to begin nightweaning soon, with the goal of transitioning away from cosleeping by the end of summer.  I think those of us who choose to nightwean "early" just don't speak up about it on MDC because it doesn't appear to be the norm.  But I bet there are more of us out there.

 

I know I have mentioned this blogger before but that's why I really like AskMoxie.  Definitely leans more towards the AP style of parenting but there is a wide range.  Some commenters do CIO at 6 months of age; some cosleep and night nurse until age 3.  But everybody plays nice and nobody ever tries to get anyone to do anything they don't feel comfortable doing - that goes for CIO AND full-on bedsharing.  There is a post up on 12 month olds not STTN today that you might like.

 

http://www.askmoxie.org/2011/06/qa-12-month-old-not-sleeping-through-the-night.html

post #28 of 51

Woo hoo, now I feel encouraged to start a thread about "early" (by MDC standards, as e-m pointed out) night weaning! I've been wondering the exact same stuff as you guys. I'm going back to work in July, and it will be shift work (two 12-hr day shifts, two 12-hr night shifts, five days off), and frankly, I'm about done with the night nursing anyway. I'm sure there are a bunch of us on here, and it would be fabulous to hear some tips and suggestions. broc1.gif

post #29 of 51
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I know I have mentioned this blogger before but that's why I really like AskMoxie.  Definitely leans more towards the AP style of parenting but there is a wide range.  Some commenters do CIO at 6 months of age; some cosleep and night nurse until age 3.  But everybody plays nice and nobody ever tries to get anyone to do anything they don't feel comfortable doing - that goes for CIO AND full-on bedsharing.  There is a post up on 12 month olds not STTN today that you might like.

 

http://www.askmoxie.org/2011/06/qa-12-month-old-not-sleeping-through-the-night.html


I have tried to access the askmoxie website before- for some reason it's BLOCKED here! I have no idea why. I live in a country where lots of things on the internet are blocked... and that's all I'll say about that. eyesroll.gif censored.gif I'll check it out when I get back to Canada in a couple of weeks.

 

 

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Woo hoo, now I feel encouraged to start a thread about "early" (by MDC standards, as e-m pointed out) night weaning! I've been wondering the exact same stuff as you guys. I'm going back to work in July, and it will be shift work (two 12-hr day shifts, two 12-hr night shifts, five days off), and frankly, I'm about done with the night nursing anyway. I'm sure there are a bunch of us on here, and it would be fabulous to hear some tips and suggestions. broc1.gif

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post #30 of 51

Count me in as one mama ready to night wean! DS doesn't actually get milk most of the time he's nursing- he will sleep from 730/8 pm until 1030/12 without nursing (he has a paci), I feed him when I get into bed (between 1030/1am) and then he just comfort sucks. He usually wants real milkies again around 4am, and occasionally at 2am. If I'm next to him he doesn't want the paci, which is fine, but he won't settle down unless my boob is in his mouth. I get really sensitive nipples when I'm ovulating and on my period, plus I get super irritated/PMS, so on those nights I'm really having trouble being patient! Actually, I don't care if I need to give him milk two or three times a night, but I am so over the constant comfort suck thing. We are thinking about weaning him from the paci too, but that is the one thing that helps him get to sleep when I am in class. We are also re-reading the NCSS, sleep has been a real struggle, DS likes to fight it off. I have started wrapping him in a blanket just to get him to sleep and then unwrapping him when I put him down again (he moves constantly!!), but this feels like a step backward. There is a chance I might have to go out of town in a few months, and we are also looking into a hired babysitter or daycare (family sitting has not been working out for us, boo) and I don't want every nap and bedtime to be a struggle, esp if he is with someone who might not be as patient as we are, or our parents are.

 

Co-sleeping mamas: you might find this funny! http://www.amberdusick.com/woodmouse_loves_crafts/2011/06/what-it-is-like-to-not-sleep-at-night-illustrated-with-crappy-pictures.html

 

Other than that, DS is getting into everything! He loves to crawl around and explore, he is pulling himself up on everything and cruising like mad, but not quite walking. He says "mama" and so far it means that he wants me (especially when I'm at school and he's with others), and milk. He also knows the sign for milk but he stopped doing it regularly. He hasn't said any other real words but he imitates the sounds we're making when we talk to him. He has five teeth, working on number six. He has gotten so much better with gentle touching (we have started "one finger touches" too, that has helped), and he will give lots of kisses! He loves to pull things out of containers, and has spent the last few days happily pulling all his books down, watching me put them back, and pulling them out again. He eats everything we give him! The only thing he has rejected was watermelon, haha! He drinks really well from a sippy cup, a water bottle and he just drank water out of a straw earlier today. He has also recognized the "warning tone", so if he is starting to get rough with the cat, or try to pull on a cord we can use that tone and he stops, then we redirect. His favorite song is Itsy Bitsy Spider, hehe ... he has such a personality! I can tell he is going to be very independent!

 

Expatmama, that is an awesome playhouse!! 

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I have tried to access the askmoxie website before- for some reason it's BLOCKED here! I have no idea why. I live in a country where lots of things on the internet are blocked... and that's all I'll say about that. eyesroll.gifcensored.gif I'll check it out when I get back to Canada in a couple of weeks.

 


OMG I would have gone insane without Moxie.  I would have PMed you her post but it's not her post so much that's awesome (though it's very good) it's the 159 commenters who stepped up and said THEIR 12 month olds didn't STTN either.  Even some who did CIO.  When you get to Canada, pour yourself a nice cup of coffee and sift through the archives... awesomeness. 
 

 

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Co-sleeping mamas: you might find this funny! http://www.amberdusick.com/woodmouse_loves_crafts/2011/06/what-it-is-like-to-not-sleep-at-night-illustrated-with-crappy-pictures.html

 

 



ROTFLMAO.gif.... that is so us!!

 

post #32 of 51

ROTFLMAO.gifyup, that's us, too!

 

And Fritz is practically walking. He still crawls more than he walks, though. And he started getting very verbal, but no words yet. However, he did start immitating the cats' meows yesterday. We have nicknamed him Babyzilla and he really roars like a monster and he loves doing it, too. Here he is laying Tokyo to waste.

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And here's a cheapo pic from the mall:

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post #33 of 51
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Oh my, Fritz is sooo big and sweet! Do you always put him in shoes when you go out?

I need to get DS some shoes I think...he loves to practice walking holding on to our fingers and he never even wears socks usually. Actually the last time I had him in socks he did not like them very much. I think he's not used to them. I should probably get him used to wearing socks again and then shoes. I have no idea what kind of shoes are good for first walkers. Hmm...another thing to research obsessively. Ha.

 

Funny so many of us are getting ready to hop on the nightweaning train. It would have never crossed my mind 6 months ago, honestly. I'm so tired of being tired these days though, it's not even a question for us anymore. I think for me it's just that i've been exhausted for soooo long, so many nights in a row of terrible sleep. It's like a cumulative effect. I would seriously pay thousands of dollars for a miracle "cure" that would safely get DS happily sleeping through the night. THOUSANDS, people! Some bright capitalist out there needs to look into this because it is big business. I've already sunk money into sleep books and white noise etc. If there were a guaranteed solution out there...wow, what I would give.

 

Anyway, I wanted to add that I didn't mean to bring into our thread any of the kind of discussion or drama that's been going on elsewhere- when I said how some on MDC would look down on nightweaning at a young age and how I didn't find much support on the breastfeeding forum. I think it just carried over by accident because I've been poring over those threads with some interest while not really putting my own voice into them much. It is quite a whirlwind around here on MDC, but I feel like our DDC/July Babe's thread is nicely removed from that and I don't want to drag it down. So I apologize for that.

post #34 of 51

Yeah, I put shoes on Fritz when we go out. At home he's mostly barefoot. If it chills off too much then I'll put some socks on him. He just wears you basic soft leather footie thing - the ones he's wearing in that pic are from Robeez. I think they're pretty awesome as they're totally flexible and protect some against cold, moisture and wind. I'm not going to get him real shoes until fall/winter when he's walking really well and when the weather becomes really disagreeable.

As for the nightweaning, I really wouldn't sweat it. Just stay true to your AP spirit.

post #35 of 51

Wow, Fritz looks like a big boy, and I by big I mean mature, like a two year old! Raymey looks like an infant compared to him, probably because of the baldness. I don't think he'll have any hair until closer to two years old just like his sister. :) 

 

Raymond's getting some shoes for his birthday this weekend, the soft leathery ones that Terrilein mentioned. I agree with waiting until they are pretty solid walkers before getting more structured shoes. 

 

N, I know what you mean about the drama around here. I recently read the thread "You know you're crunch if...". It stared off fine but progressed into full-on bitch-slappingness (yes, that is a word!). Wow. Although it was an interesting read, and everyone made some good points. Check it out if you need a bit of an adrenalin kick. And I don't think you've dragged anything down :) I love your posts. I saw you come over to the "early night weaning" thread :) Too bad there aren't very many responses. Perhaps I should post it in the breastfeeding area instead of "life with a babe"? 

 

HeckedyPeg, LOL about the link. Love it! And my DS knows the "warning tone" too, haha, except our sounds like the one that Kramer makes (from Seinfeld), like a machine-gun "a-a-a-a-a-a!!!". DS knows that when he gets close to the compost bin under the kitchen sink, we'll make the sound and he stops and backs away. I love this age. They're finally becoming more human! I'm not crazy about the first year, especially the newborn stage, but from 12 months and on, that's my favourite time. Especially around 18 months. So much fun. If only I could go through labour and birth, skip the first year, and go straight to the second year, I'd have a busload of kids. :D 

post #36 of 51

Yes, he seems much older than he actually is. At the moment I'm going even grayer than I used to be since he's climbing on everything, eating cat litter and rearranging all our furniture. faint.gif

post #37 of 51

Wow, and now he's really walking. Not just getting from A to B anymore but really preferring to walk. *sniff* Not a baby anymore. happytears.gif

post #38 of 51

Edie pretty much walks everywhere and is barefoot most of the time. I keep a pair of soft soled shoes in the diaper bag in case the ground is hot, and put her in them when she needs to look fancy, but that's it. I might get her a pair of Livie and Luca shoes once it is cold because they are super cute, but Target soft soles work just fine too. 

post #39 of 51

It seems like everyone is so busy with summer now and has no time to post anymore. I was wondering how many of you are moving to the toddler forum already? I've been reading there occasionally, but a lot of those issues don't affect us yet. I mean, ds just isn't a baby anymore. We still have sleep issues, but we're are so far out of the typical baby topics now. Anyone else? How about a thread of our own in the toddler forum?

post #40 of 51
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Wow...walking, talking amazing babies! Yah...maybe not babies so much anymore! I do go to the toddler forum but you're right Terri a lot of the toddler stuff isn't for us and a lot of the baby stuff isn't for us either. Ours are like baby tweens...or something.

 

DS is not walking yet on land, in the baby pool he walks all around with very, very little support occasionally holding on to floaty things. I guess the water props him up- I think it's really good practice for him as he is so confident in the water. I was hoping he'd be walking by his birthday party on July 16th because a friend of mine has a little girl who just loves to chase other babies around but I don't think he'll do it before then.

 

We are getting ready for our big translatlantic voyage (maybe some of you saw my huge "14 hrs on a plane" thread) on Friday. I'm as prepared as I'll get, just want to get the flight over with really. After that I may not be frequenting the forums so much since we'll be on holiday.

 

DS has been sleeping soooooooooo much better lately. He has been sleeping from 7-11 straight pretty consistently sometimes with a slight waking but we just turn his music back on and he goes back to sleep. Then he has been having JUST 2-3 wakings for the rest of the night AND on two occasions actually slept till 6 am instead of 5 am as usual. We are so ecstatic about it...maybe it really just takes time! Who knows, I just hope it doesn't all come crashing down with the time change and jet lag we'll be enduring in the next week. Ugh.

 

Anyway, I'll probably check back in here again before we leave but if not I'm wishing all the July babes a happy birthday!

 

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We made it through a year mamas...it's been so wonderful and difficult and I'd do it all again in an instant. Glad to have you all here to share the moments and milestones. love.gif

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