Originally Posted by lach
This is nonsensical. How on earth can they show interest if they aren't exposed to it? Your 4yo is not going to walk up to you and say "Mummy dear, I feel there is something missing in my life. Some way to enumerate objects, so that I can tell you exactly how many fish sticks I would like for dinner without having to perform intricate charades. Really, Mummy? There is? "Numbers," you say? How fascinating! I must learn more. Now if only there were some way to communicate, silently, perhaps even across great distances."
As was mentioned in a PP, text and numbers are everywhere! It would be impossible not to get massive amounts of exposure. Thus my point is even stronger: three year olds see plenty of letters and numbers and through a natural day out and about, or even just at home, will get enough exposure. They don't need to have it intentionally put in front of them in a contrived way to learn it, they just will naturally.
I want to say thank you to the folks here who have been friendly. There were some good points made and as always, I too am learning. I am a human being, a relatively new mama, and I am not perfect. I am also someone who has opinions and not afraid to criticise our culture. So thank you if you got that.
Otherwise I would like to say it's not really necessary to get nasty. I know it can be easy to misread things online, but some of these replies have had a really snarky undertone. Maybe my OP was too harsh. Even if it was the meanest post ever made, I don't see how it makes the situation better to make an angry or sarcastic post in response. It is entirely possible to make your point, say you are upset by my post, and still be friendly about it. I have to say, the posts that were friendly I took in and said "Aha, that's a good point, I hadn't thought about that". The posts that were snippy I sort of glossed over and thought "Sheesh". Having a debate or disagreeing doesn't mean you have to get angry and act as if someone's a bad person because their opinion differs from your own.
Hey, I've had people make astonished comments that I am *gasp* still nursing my one year old. I've had people tell me how dangerous it is to sleep with my baby, or that I shouldn't go to him when he cries. I know how easy it is to take these kinds of things personally. But actually, when someone is critical of my parenting choices, it is not a personal attack on me, even though it may feel like it (hence my earlier statements about feeling "bashed" here). How someone else feels about breastfeeding, cosleeping, education or anything else is not about me, even though I may make those choices. And, even when I strongly disagree with someone (like all the parents who let their babies scream themselves to sleep), I try to remember we are all people here and all doing our best.
I understand that some people took this as a personal attack. It was not. I was making critical comments about our culture. I don't know if that makes me a judgemental, dogmatic fool or not, but if it does then so be it. In fact, when I saw those pictures on Facebook, I thought nothing whatsoever about the friends who posted them. It was the culture and children in general I was thinking about, not judging my friends that their kids are learning the alphabet in preschool. I'm sorry if anyone felt personally attacked, and I would ask you to perhaps take a step back and a deep breath before expressing anger in your posts. Again, you can just as well make your point (in fact better) without the bitter undertone. But then again, if it feels good to express your anger then go ahead. I just wanted to be clear that I am not really wanting to engage in that sort of debate. Friendly debate, sure. Angry debate, not for me.
And yes, it was reeeeeal dumb to post this here. I may make a new thread in the Waldorf forum, as I was actually looking for support because yes, I do still want to protect my son's early childhood from too much academic influence.