CA bill (AB 499) would allow 12 year olds to consent to certain vaccines without parental knowledge - Page 5

[ma2two]

Gov. Brown signed AB 499. It is now law.

http://gov.ca.gov/news.php?id=17272

Edited by ma2two - 10/9/11 at 3:20pm

[babygirlie]

outrageous. Kids believe everything they hear from teachers whether it's true or not. they will be easily manipulated and not even bother to talk to their parents about it.. even if they have stellar parents, it's just not what kids do most of the time. they are going to line up because they are told to and not question it.  No parent will be told and the school won't get into trouble for their blatant lies and fear mongering.

[ma2two]

Kids will get overdoses of the vaccine, when their parents take them to the doctor. Some will be afraid to tell their parents they've already gotten it.

[BeckyBird]

So, is a 13 year old girl old enough to make her own decision and get the vaccine? In the same line of thought, why is she not old enough to date a 30 year old man? Let's just get rid of statutory rape laws altogether, since kids are now mature enough to make adult decisions.

[SilverMoon010]

Originally Posted by ma2two 

Gov. Brown signed AB 499. It is now law.

http://gov.ca.gov/news.php?id=17272

I'm totally disgusted. The boundaries have been overstepped.  I can't even put into words.
 

[WildDoula]

I don't even know what to say about this.

A 12 year old cannot give truly informed consent. That's why they are not in a position to make these decisions until they are older!

I wonder how much bribery was involved with this one. 

[ma2two]

Originally Posted by WildDoula 

I wonder how much bribery was involved with this one. 

Lots. Merck donated money to Women in Government, of which Toni Atkins, the bill's sponser, is a member.

And think of all the bribes that will be used to get kids to consent to the vaccine. If Merck can somehow bribe kids with a $25 prize to get a $120 vaccine paid for by the government, of course they will. And they wouldn't even have to spend that much on bribes. For example, they could donate a $300 prize for a drawing, in which only one kid out of hundreds wins. It's already been done. 

http://www.carrborocitizen.com/main/2011/05/11/immunization-contest/ (not by Merck, specifically).

I like nia82's idea from a previous post, to tell our kids, "Whatever they promise, we'll buy two of those for not vaccinating." Which I realize, of course, only works with parents who can afford that. Grr. 

It would be great to not have to match or double the bribe, and just have a serious discussion with your almost 12 year old about the risks of the vaccine, and that will probably be enough for many kids. But I'm sure there are many who are not mature enough to resist the temptation of bribes or the peer pressure to get the vaccine that all their friends are getting.

This is really going to get ugly the first time a child is seriously injured by a Gardasil injection, that a parent did not consent to. There will be lawsuits costing the taxpayers a lot of money. Who will pay for the medical costs due to the injuries? This is even against federal law, which REQUIRES that a Vaccine Information Sheet be given to a parent before any vaccine is given to a minor. This is all so stupid, I cannot believe Gov. Brown fell for it. Unless he was bought, too. I haven't looked into that yet.

Edited by ma2two - 10/9/11 at 10:33pm

[emmy526]

We wont' know the true outcome of this "experiment" for a while yet...how many teens will be unable to have kids? (i dont know about you, but i smell "population control") and greed and corruption...oh yeah, the usual bs from our gov, and fda....

[WildDoula]

Originally Posted by emmy526 

how many teens will be unable to have kids? (i dont know about you, but i smell "population control")

This is what really hits home for me.

I received Garasil as a young teen, when the vax was first released. I am now struggling with my fertility at 18 years old, something NO woman should ever have to experience. Now it's being handed out to every girl (and boy, for that matter) in SCHOOL of all places. Without parents having a say? Ugh. Ugh ugh ugh.

[BeckyBird]

Aww, I'm sorry  WildDoula     I hope you will be able to overcome the fertility issues.

DH's best friend's wife has had issues as well. They are pro-vaccine, and she recently graduated nursing school. I know she's gotten every vaccine recommended, and they have had struggles with fertility for several years--with multiple miscarriages. I can't say if it is because of vaccines, or radiation from medical equipment, or genetics, or whatever else might have been the problem. Because I'm so skeptical of vaccines, it does influence my suspicions.

Fortunately, she is now pregnant, 20+ weeks. We are all so very happy for them, and they are in our prayers. You are too! Never give up!

[thtr4me]

So appalled at the governor of my state.  I dropped him an email to let him know what I think.  I doubt he will care.

[Gordon Jones]

I see the ACLU supports this bill ??? The American Civil Liberties Union ?? I suppose where the parent's right to chose whether to vaccinate or not, dosen't concern the, ALCU ??  It seems that the ALCU knows what's best for Americans ??? So if you don't know what to do, just call the ALCU.

[Gordon Jones]

Did anyone notice the, acronym change, or was the subject matter more important?