Dairy left a whole in my heart and a tire on my waist.

[eternamariposa]

So I have been more or less-sometimes we cheat-dairy free for a couple of years now, once for a full year straight right after my daughter was born because I suspected some silent reflux.  I am someone who becomes congested with dairy too and I see candida issues as well, especially if I am nursing.  Anyway,  I have been trying to get my diet back on track to loose my baby weight from having my second daughter and I just can't seem to shed these pounds.  After my son I lost the bulk of the weight pretty quickly, I would say 30 of the 40 I gained within 6-9 months of him being born.  My daughter is 18 months old and I am only about 6 pounds under my weight when I delivered her!  I realized that since I have learned more about my families dairy issues and cut it out that my portion sizes and sugar consumption have increased exponentially.  I always felt so much more satiated when I had dairy in my diet and just didn't even think about treats. 

How do you replace the nutritional complexity of the proteins, sugars, and fats in dairy in a healthy way?  I used to eat a multigrain bagel slathered with cream cheese and freshly sliced pineapple for breadkfast every morning and loved it.  I would eat yogurts or sliced hard cheddar with fruit and crackers during the day for snacks and I just never overate.  Now without dairy I feel like I am searching for something and not done eating even though my stomach is full.

 

[HollyBearsMom]

Can you eat any dairy? I do not/can not tolerate lots of dairy but I can eat yogurt . I find a serving of thick greek yogurt and fresh lower sugar fruit (berries) is very satisfying. If I start my day with high protein breakfast and then have the yogurt mid morning I am really set up for good day with little to no cravings.

I have been doing the 17 day diet (you can read about in this forum) and my cravings are all but gone. 

[sosurreal09]

Do you eat any so delicious coconut products? They are very filling. They don't have cheese though. I love the yogurt, milk, cream, and ice cream. I think it is hard with the cheese type of substitutes b/c all the tofutti things are soy. I am concerned about soy mostly b/c of GMO contamination. The daiya cheese is OK. I'm not in love with it.

[eternamariposa]

Originally Posted by sosurreal09 

Do you eat any so delicious coconut products? They are very filling. They don't have cheese though. I love the yogurt, milk, cream, and ice cream. I think it is hard with the cheese type of substitutes b/c all the tofutti things are soy. I am concerned about soy mostly b/c of GMO contamination. The daiya cheese is OK. I'm not in love with it.

It is like you live inside my brain!  I drink coconut milk and LOVE it!  Whenever I start having late night sugar cravings I drink a small cup and I am set.  The yogurt just isn't the same for me though and the nearest place I can get them has them for more than $2 each and is 40 minutes away.  The daiya is the same for me sometimes it works but it is never awesome.  

And my dairy symptoms really confuse me.  They are delayed and ambiguous except for straight cows milk, ice cream, cream cheese...But ghee never seems to bother me, and butter doesn't seem to but I am not as sure.  Sharp cheddar will if I eat it daily.  But nothing is ever cut and dry obvious you know?  Maybe I should experiment with organic yogurt again.  Like a previous previous post mentioned if I have a good breakfast and then follow it up with yogurt as a snack I feel like my whole day is on the right track.

 

[sosurreal09]

I love the coconut yogurt but I feel it tastes more like pudding (the vanilla have never tried plain) I drive 30 mins to get our but DD loves it an has a dairy allergy and I just buy a bunch at once also our bulk items like flour is there...

Have you tried goats milk yogurt or raw cows yogurt?

[kjbrown92]

Originally Posted by eternamariposa 

It is like you live inside my brain!  I drink coconut milk and LOVE it!  Whenever I start having late night sugar cravings I drink a small cup and I am set.  The yogurt just isn't the same for me though and the nearest place I can get them has them for more than $2 each and is 40 minutes away.  The daiya is the same for me sometimes it works but it is never awesome.  

And my dairy symptoms really confuse me.  They are delayed and ambiguous except for straight cows milk, ice cream, cream cheese...But ghee never seems to bother me, and butter doesn't seem to but I am not as sure.  Sharp cheddar will if I eat it daily.  But nothing is ever cut and dry obvious you know?  Maybe I should experiment with organic yogurt again.  Like a previous previous post mentioned if I have a good breakfast and then follow it up with yogurt as a snack I feel like my whole day is on the right track.

 

That sounds like lactose intolerance. Butter/ghee does not have lactose, and in yogurt the lactose is digested by the bacteria. Hard cheeses are lower in lactose than the soft cheeses.

We can't have dairy or soy due to food intolerances. We do rice milk, almond milk, but mostly coconut milk. I make my own coconut milk yogurt because I use minimal sweetener and then I can use it as a sour cream substitute on a baked potato as well.

Dairy has a lot of fat in it, so if you're eliminating it, make sure you're getting fat from other places. Avocado, meats, etc.
 

[sosurreal09]

May I have your yogurt and sour cream recipes, please?

Originally Posted by kjbrown92 

That sounds like lactose intolerance. Butter/ghee does not have lactose, and in yogurt the lactose is digested by the bacteria. Hard cheeses are lower in lactose than the soft cheeses.

We can't have dairy or soy due to food intolerances. We do rice milk, almond milk, but mostly coconut milk. I make my own coconut milk yogurt because I use minimal sweetener and then I can use it as a sour cream substitute on a baked potato as well.

Dairy has a lot of fat in it, so if you're eliminating it, make sure you're getting fat from other places. Avocado, meats, etc.
 

[kjbrown92]

my blog is in my signature. coconut milk yogurt is on there. I use it straight for sour cream, add dillweed and onion powder for "sour cream dip" and powdered sugar and/or fruit to use as yogurt. I also mix it with granola.

[Arduinna]

Originally Posted by eternamariposa 

Now without dairy I feel like I am searching for something and not done eating even though my stomach is full.

 

As someone who used to be vegan, I identified that feeling as a lack satiety due to not enough fat in the meal. So I'd look at my recipes and see if more fat might help. Of course it could be a mouth feel or textural thing too.

[JudiAU]

I find that the longer I nurse the more I snack and crave sugar. I don't know why. But over time it is more of a habit and one I don't like. I never used to regularly eat sweets before my first pregnancy.

My husband usually keeps the So Delicous kefir on hand because it is lower sugar than regular cow's milk kefir. We will also have a quick snack of nuts or organic tofu with soy sauce or beans if we need a protein boost.