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post #101 of 143
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Just curious if we are going to get a response/update on this. 
 

 

 

Well, Peggy was so gracious about coming back here to respond individually to members' posts before that I would like to give her a little space and trust that she will be back when she can. 

I'm definitely paying attention smile.gif

post #102 of 143
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Originally Posted by MoonWillow View Post

I'm definitely paying attention smile.gif



Thank you MoonWillow. :-)

post #103 of 143
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Thank you MoonWillow. :-)


You're welcome :). 

 

post #104 of 143

I am waiting eagerly to see what Peggy has to say.

post #105 of 143

MoonWillow, it has been several days with no response from Peggy. Would you mind directing her attention to this thread? All we want to know is why her name is still on the list of advisors of Alive and Well and when she stopped supporting them. 

 

If Peggy could be so kind as to clear up this confusion. As it stands now the only reasonable conclusion one could come to is that Peggy is lying about her affiliation with Alive and Well, which couldn't possibly be true! 

post #106 of 143

Well that was nice of her to get back to us.

post #107 of 143

I honestly didn't remember that I was on the board of Alive and Well. Christine Maggiore originally asked me to be on the board of Moms Against Mandatory Medication, which I don't think exists any more and I think the boards have been merged. I'm not ashamed to be on the advisory board for Alive and Well. I'm concerned about the issues facing HIV positive pregnant and breastfeeding moms and want to support parents making informed choices about mandatory medication in any arena. I'm not going to resign from the board.

 

Please note that Marian Tompson, one of the founding mothers of La Leche League, is also on the board. She and I met Christine at the same time and have both been concerned about the implications for breastfeeding when a mom tests positive for HIV. I think that our knowledge of breastfeeding and work in this area have contributed to increasing the choices for HIV positive moms. Marian and I began hosting workshops on HIV and breastfeeding at LLL conferences in the mid-nineties that have now attracted an international attendance. Marian knew from her work with breastfeeding that exclusive breastfeeding is not always distinguished from mixed feeding in research and she began to encourage the differentiation of exclusive breastfeeding in HIV research. This led to changing the World Health Organization recommendations regarding HIV and breastfeeding. 

 

I'm happy to answer any other questions you have about this subject.

post #108 of 143

Do you realize that Alive and Well argues that HIV does not cause AIDS by using out of date, incomplete or inaccurate information, and by claiming that AIDS is just the name given to 29 common illnesses despite the fact that at least one of these 'common' illnesses is not at all common in individuals with a healthy immune system?

post #109 of 143

So when you said you were not on the board of Alive and Well were you lying? If the board is so important you can't resign why did you 'forget' you were on it? Something doesn't add up here.

post #110 of 143

And if you want to support parents making informed choices about mandatory medicine, isn't it best to work through an organization or group that doesn't operate solely to discredit, not just the medication, but the disease as well? 

post #111 of 143
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I honestly didn't remember that I was on the board of Alive and Well. Christine Maggiore originally asked me to be on the board of Moms Against Mandatory Medication, which I don't think exists any more and I think the boards have been merged. I'm not ashamed to be on the advisory board for Alive and Well. I'm concerned about the issues facing HIV positive pregnant and breastfeeding moms and want to support parents making informed choices about mandatory medication in any arena. I'm not going to resign from the board.

 

Please note that Marian Tompson, one of the founding mothers of La Leche League, is also on the board. She and I met Christine at the same time and have both been concerned about the implications for breastfeeding when a mom tests positive for HIV. I think that our knowledge of breastfeeding and work in this area have contributed to increasing the choices for HIV positive moms. Marian and I began hosting workshops on HIV and breastfeeding at LLL conferences in the mid-nineties that have now attracted an international attendance. Marian knew from her work with breastfeeding that exclusive breastfeeding is not always distinguished from mixed feeding in research and she began to encourage the differentiation of exclusive breastfeeding in HIV research. This led to changing the World Health Organization recommendations regarding HIV and breastfeeding. 

 

I'm happy to answer any other questions you have about this subject.




Why is it important that you tell us about Marian Tompson? To warn us of another guru spreading dangerous misinformation? To add credibility to Alive and Well? To distract us from our anger with you? This somehow feels like the kid in the school office having been caught doing something wrong, and has decided to spill his guts about what OTHER kids are doing.

post #112 of 143

I guess no one reminded you when you spoke at Maggiores memorial service.

post #113 of 143

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post #114 of 143
Moonwillow - can you be more specific/direct about what the UA violations are? It seems like every time someone questions the admin or demands accountability or clarity, we are threatened with a thread being closed.
post #115 of 143

Asking valid questions is not harassment.

post #116 of 143

There is no harassment, MoonWillow. We are merely asking questions. None of this would have happened if Peggy had said to begin with she was on the board of Alive and Well. Instead she lied about it and is now ignoring us or making stuff up when called out. I don't think this is very respectful to the users of Mothering. 

post #117 of 143

Harrassment is a pretty hardcore term for what has happened in this thread. People have wanted answers to these questions for years. Peggy seems to sit as an enigma and her presence on the actual board as far as posting has been fleeting and rare. The week or more that the community sat here and waited to answers to the follow up questions - about a subject that is very real and dear to many our hearts - was not filled with obnoxious pestering. People bided their time. They were respectful. I think that is Peggy wants to follow her own UA she should find some time to be authentic and discuss with us our concerns. Because this is a very, very important subject to the people who are posting in this thread.

 

 

 

post #118 of 143

Yes harass.

 

MusicianDad you're questions are fine. I'm not referring to any of your posts. 

 

Nanny you're posts in particular have been problematic. Here's one example: 


I guess no one reminded you when you spoke at Maggiores memorial service.

 

This is a valid and important question? No. Its a sarcastic accusation. 

 

Given that people refuse to take what Peggy says at face value, I fail to see how this thread can ever reach a peaceful conclusion. Since she offered to answer more questions, I will leave it open for now *but* if people want questions answered then ask questions and refrain from hurling suspicions, nastiness and accusations of lying. Otherwise the thread will be locked.

 

Thank you. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

post #119 of 143
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Yes harass.

 

MusicianDad you're questions are fine. I'm not referring to any of your posts. 

 

Nanny you're posts in particular have been problematic. Here's one example: 

 

This is a valid and important question? No. Its a sarcastic accusation. 

 

Given that people refuse to take what Peggy says at face value, I fail to see how this thread can ever reach a peaceful conclusion. Since she offered to answer more questions, I will leave it open for now *but* if people want questions answered then ask questions and refrain from hurling suspicions, nastiness and accusations of lying. Otherwise the thread will be locked.

 

Thank you. 

 

 

 

 

 

OK, I will turn it into a valid and important question:

 

Dear Peggy,

 

Were you aware at the time of the memorial service that you were still a member of the board of Alive and Well?

 

[And, a few follow-on questions of my own]

 

If the answer to the above is "no", then did you ever receive notice that you were no longer a board member of Alive and Well or did you ever render a resignation in the past? If the answer is "no" to both of those, what led you to believe that you were no longer a board member?

 

As you are still a board member with no intention of resigning, can you please clarify whether you support Alive and Well's claims that AIDS is not a real disease caused by the HIV virus?

 

Lastly, can you please explain how your membership in an organization that blames the victims of an awful, devastating disease for their own demise and denies that they even have a defined disease demonstrates a personal effort to maintain a comfortable and respectful atmosphere?

 

 

Respectfully yours,

 

amma_mama

 

 


Edited by amma_mama - 7/7/11 at 8:34am
post #120 of 143

So, I think that maybe what's at the source of the tension here - and the reason that people have occasionally veered off course from strictly respectful dialogue - is that many of us within the queer community feel that AIDS denialism is an attack on those who live with (and die from) HIV/AIDS. Many of whom are poor, people of color, and/or LGBT. I think that perhaps if we address this head-on it might bring us a bit of clarity about why this conversation is getting so tense.

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