You said that you are against seat belt laws, and you dislike that supporters of the law often say that injuries and deaths caused by not wearing seat belts cost taxpayers money. If seat belt laws were repealed, and injuries and deaths did, indeed, cause taxpayers more money, that would not have anything to do with whether money is being inappropriately spent elsewhere.
I think you're not understanding what I'm saying...I don't think it's your fault, I think we're just missing each other entirely.
Where would this money come from if there were no taxes? There are mamas on MDC who use government assistance. Are you against food stamps? Medicaid/Medicare?
I do not believe in foreign aide. I do not believe in most foreign entanglements. I do not believe in Medicaid/Medicare or foodstamps. I do not believe in government housing, unemployment, etc. I do not believe in mega corporations. I do not believe in public schools. I do not believe in grocery stores and mega farms. I do not believe in the mall. I do not believe in TV. I do not believe in the government telling me how/when/who I can marry. I do not believe in elections. I do not believe in law enforement outside of the original intention for LEOs, which was to serve as peace officers. I do not believe in lines on a map that say "I live in this country and you live in that one, so we are different" and entitled to different things. the list goes on and on and on....here's the thing:
I DO believe in PEOPLE and in the EARTH.....I believe that if people are left alone, they know how to govern themselves. I believe that when people live regionally in self sufficient/governing communities that have their own schools, farms, tradesmen/women and resources to trade with other communities, everyone ends up richer. I believe that the invention of money and government has warped people on a fundemental level and has created chaos in our world and that most of the people who wander the earth in misery and anger are really victims of this horrible plauge of "money life" and being ruled from the top down by the richest and most powerful 1% of beings on this earth. If you do not realize that the top 1% of beings on this earth rule you, you have a lot of thinking to do. This way of being, the societal constructs we have created, made us forget who we are and why we are so wonderful.
I do not believe in the society which creates the need for things like aide from the government. Show of hands (not on the board, just you in your chair at home) how many people who are on assistance would even need assistance if it were possible for the average american family to support itself in a true middle class lifestyle on one income? If our monetary system (the FIAT/Federal Reserve System) weren't so horribly defective, our economic situation would not BEGIN, EXIST and END in inflation and would not require an ever growing percentage of the money you make to go to taxes. It's not just the 25% that goes "poof" from your paycheck....after food tax, transportation associated tax (gas, car registration, etc), Property tax, the energy taxes you pay on your utility bills....on and on and on...what percentage of your salary actually goes to your pocket? Into your childrens bellies? If most or all of what you made actually ended up in your pocket, you wouldn't need food stamps. If our governments did not send us to war, based off the boogey man ghost stories they tell us with the news channel lie machines, so they can secure mineral/oil/resource rich locations around the world and enslave the peoples who live there into practically slave labor with the IMF/World Bank loans, er, sorry, "aide" that they give them to keep them in the area to WORK the mines/factories/oil fields they secured in the warring...we wouldn't need a defense budget and billions in tax collection to begin with. In modern history (and really, even before that) there has not been a single war or major conflict that was fought for the reason the history books tell you we fought it. What is it they say, he who wins the war writes the history? Even the "good ole wars" where we had delightfully easy to hate villains are bogus. Revolutionary War - Rich men on the British side and American side funded both sides of this war and made out like bandits. Hilter? Please, nazis were funded from both sides (Actually, George Bushs family was really into Nazi funding). Pearl Harbor, the "terrorist" act that got us into WWII? Yeah, superimpose September 11th truth on the Pearl Harbor attacks and understand it was the same thing.
No money means you need government health care....government health care skews the cost of healthcare....in turn, private insurance costs are driven up...and less poeple can afford health care....because they have no money...and on and on. Crime is very similar....socioeconomic causes and solutions and causes and solutions and roud and round we go. You can trace perfect lines between young mothers in labor and delivery wards in inner city areas and jail cells.....and back again. Yes, all of these things, this wall of text above...are all connected, because they paint the same picture.
There are a million different ways I can spell this out. It seems wild and out there and totally crazy...until you funnel everything aobut life around us down to it's beginning building blocks. Those who desired power and money, got it. They wanted to keep it, so they constructed ways to regulate the masses in "society"....so that there work could be harnessed, turned into money (which doesn't actually exist, if you really think about it) and used to keep the rich and powerful, well, rich and powerful. The top 1% from the old days (in some cases, the REALLY way back old days) can actually be traced via lineage and in some cases DNA, to many of the same 1% who rule our world in money and power NOW. The "haves" made sure they kept "having"...on the backs of the "have nots"....most of whom are either living in poverty somewhere in the world with no voice, or are so satisfied by a house in the suburbs and a subaru in the driveway, that they don't realize that everything they know about who they are and what they want to be in this world, was told to them in some fashion, by a society that is geared toward keeping you as happy as you have to be, to get up everyday and punch in at the office, keep having babies and vote every election...as if you have a choice in all of this.
I'm not saying there is no happiness or that "you are living a lie, you think you're happy but your not" - I'm saying that it is actually not human nature to war, enslave through taxation and mandate and desire power over others. Anyone who tells you it's human nature, is repeating a lie they were told by someone who repeated a lie they were told, etc. Humans are good and beautiful. Humans possess incredible stregth that we do not use. Humans do not need seatbelt laws and wildly bloated federal governments telling them how to live. But we have these things because of the machinery we are all caught up in, for the endless pursuit of money and status and because we create governments to tell us what to do, because governments tell us we can't govern ourselves.
Our society is built around rules that were designed to keep most people working and not paying attention....and a few people very rich and powerful. Period. It is VERY sad to me that so many people die as a result of preventable death attributed to non-use of seatbelts. But that sadness is not greater than my sadness at the loss of that one more little teeny, tiny bit of my personal freedom that is signed away from me at the hands of "democrazy" and "progress". < ----- THAT is what I'm trying to say, re: seatbelt laws.
Um, no. He was raised in Arizona Territory....a.k.a. The Wild West. He was behaving immorally and trampling others before the law arrived there.
You're missing what I'm saying. I'm not saying the construct is the law....I'm saying the whole reality you see around you, that Billy saw around him...the nature of life and what it means to be human in a "society"....the very idea of "the law man"...that was constructed and born out of Babylon (If you don't know what the Babylon System is, look it up. It's hard to side step some of the kind of ooky "religious based" sites about it, but if you look, you can find just good clean information and it's worth looking for) is the construct that we are, that Bill was, a product of and that you cannot point to the product of this societal idea which has been promoted and continued since Babylon and say that any despicable person who lives against this construct of society proves that we need the societal construct. That's crazy. I'm saying that he, just like you and I, was a product of what we have been told is this reality....where masses of people hand over their rights, to be governed by a select few individuals, where laws and "societal norms" take precedent over individual freedom and people enjoying what it means to be alive. Some "products" of this societal construct turn out like you and me, we can adapt and live in this way that is counter to human nature. Some people cannot.
If you work 9-5 in an office pushing paper, if you are a government employee auditing tax forms, if you are in any way dissatisfied with what you are doing....realize that you are doing it for money, so that you will not be poor and hungry...now realize that you spend most of your life working, sleeping, driving and watching TV (if you are the average Western Human).
Now, ask yourself: if you landed here on a completely human-free earth with no buildings and no society, etc, a brand new human with nothing but endless possibility and a whole beautiful, clean, peaceful world to live in....and you were in charge of rebuilding it...would you make certain that the world you made had enough highways and mega corporations, so that you could sit in traffic and push completely meangingless paperwork around? No, you wouldn't, because you are in the bottom 99% of humans on this earth who want to live and enjoy life WITH you fellow man instead of ON THE BACKS OF your fellow man. The only people who would design this world are crazy, confused or in the top 1% who really don't see a problem with this giant chess board of money and power they get to play on. None of us would make this world what it is, but you don't have a choice, because this is the world that has been built for you and you were born into it and while a lucky few bend all the rules and live a wild existence that totally is all about enjoyment of this earth and life....the most of us will whittle away our lives doing the mundane things we "have to do" so we can afford to squeeze in the things we WANT to do...like lay on our backs and look at clouds with our kids or sew dresses to sell at the farmers market.
The problem is, this world was MADE for laying on our backs looking at clouds, sewing pretty dresses for farmers markets and exploring the needs, desires and unique blessings/skills we each have and building a life around them that makes us happy and fulfilled at our core. Putting food on your table doesn't have to mean trading your Life Energy for meaningless paper, so that you can give most of it to a government that tells you what to do all the time even though you are not a criminal or madman and use the rest of it to avoid hunger and exposing your children to the elements. Everyone has skills, everyone can use their Life Energy to spend their days engaged in the work of living. We don't need money and we don't need governments. This world is an abundant place. Society/money/power is the management of that abundance in accordance with rules that suck. If everyone was aware of their PERSONAL POWER we wouldn't have governments...only peace and lives spend engaged in meaningful work and happiness.
Seatbelt laws are just a small part of the silly distraction from true living that our whole world has become. That's all I'm saying. I know it took a lot of words to say it. But I can't help myself, I've never been called concise. If anyone is actually interested in continuing this discussion elsewhere, start a thread, I love talking to mamas on this board about the nature of life....but I agree it's time to stop threadjacking, so I will bow out of this topic of conversation on this thread. Nice talking with you.