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Nurse at ped's office told me to stop all dairy...

post #1 of 6
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...but this is the first thing she said to me. As in, no other information was exchanged. I didn't say anything about any problems. She just told me I needed to cut out dairy. So, ALL BFing mamas of newborns should not eat/drink any dairy? I don't remember doing this with my DD.

Really?
post #2 of 6

Uh, no.

 

What a strange thing to say! Next time you are there, why not ask her for the evidence behind that advice mischievous.gif

post #3 of 6

That strikes me as the equal and opposite to "you must drink milk to make milk" which is also totally untrue.

 

 

post #4 of 6
It's not true. I'm sure you knew that already thumb.gif but I know it's helpful to find out you're not the only one who knows it.

Probably what happened is she met a few families with dairy-intolerant babies, and drew her own conclusions, and she's trying to "save you the trouble." I had a nurse like that, who'd seen a boy with a paraphimosis, and had declared herself the savior of all the office's baby boys-- she told me "well, the docs here will tell you you don't HAVE to circumcise him, but let me tell you I think it's crazy because here's what happens-- we see it ALL THE TIME."

(I told the doc about it, and SHE was horrified, and told me she'd "take care of it." Which I hope means they made this nurse stop telling people that stuff.)

I've been told some amazingly uninformed things by pediatrician-office nurses, over the years. A lot of them know less than the docs do, about breastfeeding, especially if they've never done it themselves. I remember patiently explaining to one nurse, when my twins were infants, about the how supply and demand works, and what letdown is. She had no idea. And she'd just got done explaining to me why I HAD to wait three hours between feeds, because if I didn't, there wouldn't be any time for me to fill up with milk again.

For the sake of information (not for the OP, specifically)-- some infants are allergic to or intolerant to casein, the protein in cow's milk and cow's milk products. The usual way this shows up is with intestinal symptoms-- signs of injury to the intestine, including mucus or blood in the stool-- and with pain or fussiness. There may also be allergic symptoms like runny nose, wheezing, or runny eyes, or skin symptoms like eczema. Many other mamas also have reported that their babies are fussy after they eat dairy products, even though there are no intestinal symptoms, and that this fussiness clears up when dairy is removed from the diet. Finally, it's important to realize that this intolerance is NOT lactose-intolerance. Lactose intolerance in adult humans is extremely common-- the norm, really. But in human infants, it is rare. Breastmilk itself contains more lactose than cow's milk, and whether mama is eating lactose herself does not change that. The allergy or intolerance is to the protein, not to the lactose, which is the sugar in milk.
post #5 of 6
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Thanks for the confirmation of what I know to be true. It's so easy to second guess yourself, especially when it's about what's best for the baby. Yes, DS has had some fussy times (I posted about his weird latching thing in a separate post) and I started to wonder...hmm..I just had a bowl of cereal with milk, etc...and feel guilty, and second guess... greensad.gif I mean, he spits up quite a bit, but that's normal, right, for a 2 week old? (You'd think I'd remember from DD, but here I am wondering all over again.) redface.gif
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Originally Posted by Beauchamp View Post

Thanks for the confirmation of what I know to be true. It's so easy to second guess yourself, especially when it's about what's best for the baby. Yes, DS has had some fussy times (I posted about his weird latching thing in a separate post) and I started to wonder...hmm..I just had a bowl of cereal with milk, etc...and feel guilty, and second guess... greensad.gif I mean, he spits up quite a bit, but that's normal, right, for a 2 week old? (You'd think I'd remember from DD, but here I am wondering all over again.) redface.gif

That's the thing, too-- two week old babies fuss. They fuss for many, many reasons, and it only sometimes has to do with feeding. They fuss because all the sensations of being outside in the big world are all brand-new, and it's overwhelming, and they have no coping skills or ability to communicate besides fussing. I myself personally think it's a mistake to immediately assume that newborn fussiness must be due to mama's diet, in the absence of other symptoms. I had one casein-intolerant kid and two who weren't, and at two weeks they all fussed a LOT.

A lot of women will disagree, and say it can't hurt to eliminate dairy. But it's HARD to eliminate dairy. So I would explore other issues, first. (Unless there are clear symptoms-- my DS had blood in his diapers, his eyes and nose were running, and he was sneezing so much he couldn't nurse.)

In my experience, actually, the need to sleep seemed to be responsible for more of the fussiness than anything related to digestion. My DS fussed horribly because he was tired, and had no ability to tune the world out and go to sleep, and it overwhelmed him.
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