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post #1 of 7
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I apologize as this post is quite long but I am at my wit's end and willing to take any help I can get. I am looking for any opinions as to what you might think is wrong with me. I am a 29 year old female.

 

The medications I take are ones that I have been put on recently. They are Allegra, Vicodin, Folic Aid, B-Complex, Vitamin D, Daily Probiotic, Pepcid, and I am also on two different antibiotics right now, Clindamycin for the abscess I got three weeks ago above my teeth and behind my nose (This is the second course I have been on for this, I seem to be having a really hard time getting rid of it) and the other is Nitrofuritan for the kidney infection I recently developed.

 

Over the last ten years I have seen my GP on several occasions complaining of joint pain, fatigue, and feeling unwell. I have had both positive and negative ANA’s but other than that they never found anything that confirmed why I was feeling so badly except that I was anemic. They put me on iron supplements and after a couple years it seemed to resolve. In 2009 I got pregnant with my second child and was very ill and then at 5 month I lost the baby to intrauterine fetal demise. When they did the pathology they found massive infection in the placenta and fluid but could not tell me what from. After I delivered I became very ill and have to take several rounds of antibiotics and was almost hospitalized. I never correlated losing the baby to something that might have been going on  so I never really further pursued the issue of feeling badly until last year.

 

Starting last year around May I started having low grade fevers ranging from normal to 102 degrees or so. They never are consistent and just seem to crop up randomly. In July of last year I underwent a hysterectomy for endometrioses and pelvic congestion syndrome. I was feeling very badly and my gynecologist at the time told me it was possible the fever was related to what was going on. So I had the surgery, the only complication was very low blood pressure which they couldn’t seem to find an explanation for, but the fevers never went away afterwords. I think it was the end of August when I started getting more symptoms. First it was my cervical lymph nodes. They swelled very large and became painful. A few days after the initial swelling I woke up one morning and both my hands and feet were beet red and extremely swollen and painful, so much that my wedding ring had cut into the side of my finger. Then came the rash, under my skin, red, and lacey. Of course I was having the same fevers during this time and felt extremely fatigued and sick. I went to my GP at this point and he was unsure of what might be going on and decided to run some test, blood cultures, and sent me to a dermatologist for a biopsy of the rash. The blood cultures came back negative for infection. The other blood work showed high bad cholesterol, low good cholesterol, low levels of vitamin d, B12, and folic acid, low RBC count but ferritin level of 136, negative ANA. The biopsy showed superficial perivascular dermatitis, which they told me was some kind of inflammation around my blood vessels, but they didn’t know what it was caused from. My GP then told me that he thought I should see a rheumatologist. So I chose one of two in our town and started a battery of tests with him. At one point I had another episode of the swollen lymph nodes and they sent me for a CT Scan to check sizing for a biopsy. The minimum biopsy size is 1cm and although I had multiple enlarged nodes they were all around 9mm so they wouldn’t do the biopsy. I have been tested for rheumatoid arthritis which was negative several times, then came back the last time positive but had a normal titer. He x-rayed my hands and told me I have the beginning of osteoarthritis in them. Then there was the test for Wegners Granulomatosis, in which my anti-pro3 titer came back extremely high. He told me was unsure of what it meant and just told me it was inconclusive (I have since had another doctor tell me that anti-pro3 is very indicative of Wegner’s. I begged him to re run the test to rule it out, which he finally did the last month I was under his care and it came back negative this time.

 

He also tested me for ANA which was positive then negative then positive and now negative again. I was tested for Lupus and Sojgren’s. The actual Lupus test was negative but the Anti-SSB’s for Sojgren’s cam back at 0.9 which was the maximum cap for the high reference range. When I was tested again for it this April it came back as 1.0 which was flagged as high. Then I had a third test for Sojgren’s this month and it was back down to the maximum cap for the reference range of 0.9. My new rheumatologist did not seem concerned. My recent kidney function test cam back at a 78% which is considered stage 2 kidney disease however currently I am just being monitored for function every six months. I know I have been tested for several other things, which I would have to review my labs to be able to say for sure. But my test results are always mixed or inconclusive. One time everything will be unremarkable and then the next set of tests with have random things showing as positive but never enough for him to know what’s going on. They have taken my ESR several times, sometimes it’s normal and other times its just barely in the range they considered high but apparently not high enough to be deemed significant. They recently tested my RBC count again witch was low and my ferritin has dropped from a 136 7 months ago to a 36 now, again the doctor said I wasn’t anemic and didn’t seemed concerned that it had dropped over 100 points in 7 months. I have what I think is chronic EBV and also chronic CMV. I think it is chronic because every time I have been tested for it my titers are off the charts.

 

As for symptoms, the list is long. Aside from the malaise and extreme fatigue, I still get those lacey rashes, swollen hands and feet that get red and feel that they are going to spontaneously combust (this also happens to my ears as well), daily headaches, joint pains (sometimes my body hurts so badly I feel like I’m going to die) I vomit almost daily in the morning and often feel nauseous throughout the day. I was recently diagnosed with IBS, and I have extreme reflux from pretty much everything I eat. I have dry mouth, skin, eyes, and it seems like the more water I drink the thirstier I am and the more it dries out my mouth. When I get sick or have surgery I often have trouble recovering. I get chronic UTI's and kidney infections, horrible cold sore out breaks, etc. Also it seem like if I get a UTI or cold or anything that dampens down my immune system, it is followed by a barage of things. For example recently I developed what they told me was an abscess above my front teeth and behind my nose, except there was no reason for the abcess, no damage to the tooth or anything. Nevertheless it was huge and they immediately got me in and surgically lanced and drained it. Three days later I developed a UTI that turned into a kidney infection, then I got a head cold and then I got two cold sores in one week. It seems like my whole body is falling apart. The infection still hasn't cleared up and I've had two continuous courses of antibiotics. I get sharp pains in my abdomen and what I think it nerve pains in my legs and arms (although no one has officially told me what they are). I get ringing and drainage in my ears, and have chronic sinusitis. I have noticed some memory loss also. I have started breaking out like I’m a teenager and they are always very sore and take forever to heal, I get it on my face upper back and sometimes shoulders and neck. I also have Raynaud's phenomenon and livedo reticularis.

My last rheumatologist told me I showed evidence of some sort of autoimmune or connective tissue disease but he said he could not make a definitive diagnosis and there has also been some mention of possible vasculitis but again no one will give me a definitive diagnosis. At one point he told me it could be lymphoma or some form of cancer and suggested I get a malignancy workup. So my regular doctor referred me to an oncologist who didn’t even run any tests, she just took my history and said that she felt pretty certain that it was not cancer and felt very strongly about it being autoimmune.

 

So I felt like I wasn’t getting anywhere with my last rheumatologist and felt he was cold and uncaring and so my regular doctor sent me to a new rheumatologist out of town. This new doctor told me he was going to disregard all my previous tests and run his own. So he did this and tested all the usuals, ANA, ANCA, Ferritin, and some specific ones for different autoimmune diseases etc. All these tests came back negative this time along with my ANA.  He said he would like to retest in 6 months and then referred me to an infectious disease specialist. So that’s where I am at right now, more waiting, and still feeling terrible. I am more than happy to answer any additional questions you might have. Thank you so much for listening.

post #2 of 7

Geez, you have really been dealing with a lot!!! I am so sorry. I feel for you b/c I went through a medical mystery myself years ago and it took forever to figure out. The doctors never did diagnose me - I had to go online and figure everything out myself and i know how frustrating that can be when you are not feeling well.

I am short on time right now but just wanted to ask if you've had any thyroid panels done? I ask b/c so many of your symptoms point to low thyroid function and even the low iron and low b12 are very often associated w/ thyroid disorders.

If you have had thyroid labs done, do you mind posting them? Lab ranges are horribly outdated most times and thyroid issues go undetected ALOT.

Hopefully others will jump in here with more opinions for you also.

Good luck!

Sandy

post #3 of 7

Have they tested you for Celiacs?
My unofficial thoughts are as follows.

Celiacs causing anemia and adrenal fatigue, causing thryoid issues.

Just be aware that the test is 50% wrong.
Best way is to go gluten free for a month and then test by eating a bit.
As far as the adrenal stuff, check out the huge adrenal thread.
 

And FYI, your rash screams Celiacs.

post #4 of 7

Wow, I am so sorry you are going through all that! I know how it feels to have multiple health issues and no real answers as to why. By the way, I am not a doctor, so this is just info from my own searches and personal experience. From what you have posted, it sure sounds like autoimmune-related issues to me. Could be thyroid and/or adrenal autoimmunity or insufficiency, as well as Lupus or some other systemic autoimmune condition? Lupus can cause fevers. Sjogren's can have far-reaching effects on the kidneys and other organs, and from your previous labs and your symptoms of dry mouth, eyes, kidney infection, etc. it sure sounds like you could be dealing with Sjorgren's.

 

Celiac disease could be a root problem causing some of this. I would really look at my diet and start cutting out the more allergenic foods like gluten, and dairy, if you haven't already. Can you see a naturopathic practitioner who can help you with your diet and supplements? Autoimmunity and food allergies often go hand in hand. I have found that Western medicine does a very poor job of helping people "heal" from these types of conditions and usually tries to suppress the immune system through steroids and other pharmaceuticals. I would try to heal myself through diet and lifestyle, with the help of a good NP.

 

Low blood pressure can result from anemia, low thyroid, low adrenals, and other conditions. I had low blood pressure and it made me feel awful--mine was due to being low thyroid. If you haven't already, I would get thyroid labs done and like the PP recommended, post the results here and we can help. Doctors may or may not be up of the latest acceptable range of normal. If you are hypothyroid, getting that under control can make a huge difference on so many levels. The only thing I would caution is that I have read that if there is a corresponding adrenal insufficiency (not uncommon), you want to correct that first. Again, a good NP should be able to test all of that and put together a protocol.

 

It can be difficult to diagnose autoimmune issues because autoantibodies can "jump around" and not be consistent! I often felt dejected after going to the doctor only to be told that there was no clear diagnosis. Thankfully, once I got my thyroid condition under control, all my other symptoms resolved. I too tested positive for Sjorgren's, but didn't have any symptoms for it. Since you haven't gotten many answers from the MD's, really think about seeing a holistic practitioner. Maybe they can get to the root of it. Best of luck to you!!

post #5 of 7
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Thank you everyone for your responses and kind words, it was really nice of all of you to respond. I have been tested for Celiac's and a whole mess of other GI related issues. I was negative but told I had IBS. My new rheumy did tell me my issues could be indicative of lupus, sojgrens, vaculitis, or some type of connective tissue disease and it sounds like you guys are saying something similar. I did read something about seronegative lupus but my doctor seems real hesitant to diagnose me before I rule out everything under the sun. I did see an endocrinologist who told me he had no reason to see me even though I was referred but I practically begged him to run some tests anyways. When the results came back he called me and told me that everything looked normal. A friend of mine at work recommended that I see this doctor in town that does sports medicine but specializes in hormone therapy also. So I went today and brought him my labs from my endocrinologist and once he looked at them he got very serious and wanted to know if the doctor had told me about my adrenals. I told him he hadn't and then told me that I was practically in renal failure. The reference range from my test was 0-50 and my result was <1, so he started me on some adrenal supplement called Cortitrophin, Needless to say I was shocked. I inquired about something prescription because then its regulated but he told me that right now there really isn't any prescription adrenal hormone, does anyone know whether or not that is true? He also told me that although my thyroid was within the normal reference range but not what he considered normal and said he thought it was slightly elevated. He said optimal thyroid levels are not as wide of range as what is in the reference range (if that makes sense) and ordered new thyroid testing and said my female hormones are very low also and ordered saliva testing which I haven't gotten back yet. He told me that these may not be causing all my symptoms but if we can regulate the levels I may find that enough symptoms will clear up to leave a better picture of whats actually wrong with me. so far it was the most productive doctors visit I've had yet, I know it doesn't explain everything but it did make me feel hopeful that there truly might be an end to this madness. Again thank you all for listening.

post #6 of 7

all of those symptoms fit ehlers-danlos syndrome. it is a genetic connective tissue disorder. i have type 3. i experience chronic joint pain, sleep disturbances (ranging from insomnia to excessive tiredness), ibs, fructose intolerance and low blood pressure plus many other things you mentioned. all of these are directly caused by my eds. i was diagnsed by a geneticist. i have felt "sick" and different since i was a kid. i have been told I am borderline anemic my whole life even though i lived on meat and potatoes. DD1 is also borderline anemic as well. since connective tissue is everywhere in our bodies, it influences every thing. our digestive system and it's abilities to absorb stuff results in low vitamin status, esp b12, d3, folic acid, and absorption of oils and fats resulting in itchy dry skin that is somehow still softer than anybody else i know. eds is also characterized by a youthful appearance, long thin arms and legs that might be longer than normal, and hig metablism esp during youth.

 

i recc getting tested for fructose intolerance. and seeing a geneticist to get evaluated for eds. all forms of eds except tyoe 3 can be determined through a dna test, but the hypermobility (double jointed) one is made by clinical presentation. good luck. your health issues sound exactly like mine.

post #7 of 7

Friend,

 

Wow, I am so sorry you are dealing with this. I can only imagine. 

 

I don't know if this is the kind of feedback you are looking for, so please discard if so, but is there something happening in your life right that makes you feel powerless? Is there something in your life that is ongoingly painful (I do not mean physically but otherwise)?

 

I am amazed how the chronic issues of our physical body are often manifested from an emotional, metaphysical place. I think this is why so many conditions go undiagnosed. I am not saying that you are responsible for your illness, I am saying that there is more to uncover in your healing than perhaps your doctors can see right now. 

 

I am not a doctor but I am an empath and I "see" this in people often. Usually I never say anything, but this is a forum, and you asked. :)

 

Lova, Dia

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