Originally Posted by kathymuggle
I agree with much of what is said above.
No one should rule out an idea (vaxxing or not vaxxing, for example) because of zealous outliers on either side. I do tend to think that being turned off by zealousness is a bit silly. I wonder if people who said they were turned off by such sites were ever really interested in exploring non-vaxxing in the first place.
That being said, I usually do try to quote stats from mainstream sites if I am sharing research on vaccination -it is much harder to discredit.
Respectfully, its more like this:
- Mama1 is confused about vaxes and comes to MDC to get the lowdown.
- She reads the Vax forum and gets a sense of whos vaxing (Mama3) and whos not (Mama2)and listens to their reasons why. Mama2 lists possible references, and Mama3, say a sciencey kind of Mama, says 'those references are bogus, not peer reviewed and not substantiated within the medical community'
- Mama1 doesn't know who to believe. Confusion further ensues.
- She then sees Mama2 spouting off about fluoride in water, colloidal silver, not taking sick kids to a doctor, etc and it all falls apart for her. This need not be because she is ignorant, perhaps she has an advanced degree in water treatment and has a better understanding of additives to municipal water supplies. ;) By reason of character assessment, she then sees that Mama2, is, for lack of a better term, something of a fanatic and frequently talks about things which she does not know. The valuation of Mama2's arguments goes down.
Any time someone rants and raves and uses extreme arguments that have no logical plausibility, the valuation of their arguments goes down, perhaps even to the point where its dismissed entirely. Perhaps even to the point where it seems like the entire MOVEMENT could be dismissed, because if those are the best arguments they have, there's just something missing.
Off topic and this isnt directed to you KathyMuggle, but whoever said in this thread that this is part of 'mommy wars' - please don't. The discussion of vaccinations and serious childhood illnesses such as polio is far too important to sweep such a ten-cent and pedestrian phrase over. I assure you, most people do not argue about this, esp not at MDC or the other board*, just to feel superior to other mama's. We are not talking about minivans and barbie dolls here, this is a valid topic of discussion that both sides are extremely passionate about, not just using it as fodder for mockery and gloating.
(*which i hate to break it to anyone, but its far from 'mainstream' - its actually fairly AP and natural compared to most boards)
Kathy, I wish you well and I'm sorry if you were hurt. :(