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post #1 of 6
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not nak but holding baby so this is not going to be pretty

 I had an amazing natural birth 6/24 I delivered him on my hands and knees and imediately flipped over and swooped him up. (so rapidly that my leg actually kind of brushed him when I was moving and I thought I kicked him). He nursed within 30 minutes and we have not been separated. His latch seems fantastic (little to no pain even in the first days) . My second ds weaned during the pregnancy at over 3.5 years. I guess that alone made me slightly arrogant? we overcame several obstacles and I guess I thought I was prepared for anything.

  Onto our current challenges, ds is a sleepy boob baby. I think I seriously overlooked several warning signs or (red flags) out of denial or arrogance....he passed his meconium within the first few days met his number of pees and acted very normal for a newborn.  He didn't poop again until day 8! (and I'm assuming lost weight up until then as well) Yes, I know that should have really sent off an alarm...I feel really stupid noIw....I've cried my eyes out . It should have been obvious. I really thought with the amount of time he was spending on the boob he would be fine and my midwives assured me on occasion a baby may just need stimulation to go so we tried that and he was lightly staining a couple dipes. He had the blowout and has since met his poops and pees. (thankfully)  he's been on the boob pretty much hourly -2hours at most since day 1 (I have the house to prove it ugh!) but he just wasn't spening enough time actively sucking. I'm disappointed in myself for not seeing this soon enough.....he's 12 days old and according to 1 scale 9 oz from his birth weight and on another 6-7 (fish scale harder to tell) away. I feel this could have been prevented if I had been more diligent. 

 On the bright side he seems to be doing well despite my mistakes, he has awake periods is gaining is not overly fussy etc.I think his laid back nature could have attributed to this. He's not appeared jaundiced at all is alert etc....My theory is he was getting enough from letdowns to keep him hydrated but not really enough to gain. He started gaining with me switch nursing like mad and doing breast compressions. I have an appointment with an ibclc today and I'm praying that she won't recommend supplements. I just need someone to tell me that with compressions and switch nursing I can get his weight up and go from there. He literally nursing 15+ times a day . I am waking him at night every 2 hours but he wakes me sometimes before the 2 hours is up. I'm disappointed but know it's not worth dwelling on. ds2 took 23 days to regain his birthweight. As long as we have no other issues latch supply etc  (which is why I'm seeing the lc today even though my gut tells me it was simply my overlooking some obvious warning signs in the beginning) is it possible to get him back on track without supp'ing? If I have to pump I will but am hoping to avoid it as the constant switch nursing with compressions is pretty consuming. I am curious to see what he's getting per feed. thanks if you read this.

post #2 of 6

How did your appointment with your IBCLC go?

 

Just from reading this little bit, it sounds like supplementing might be necessary b/c the standard protocol is to supplement (at breast) if birth weight is not regained or surpassed by day 10.  If necessary, have you looked into a human milk exchange program?

 

Best to you!

post #3 of 6
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thanks for asking. The visit went well. He has a beautiful latch a slightly tight upper frenulum but has great tongue mobility and got over an oz when we weighed him before and after feeding. The plan for now is to continue monitoring his gain and to just keep doing what we are doing. She saw him squirming a good bit on my lower producing breast and we decided there is a chance my supply is a little compromised. I did add in fenugreek and blessed thistle and allready felt fuller this morning.  She didn't give me an ''or else'' weight but if he doesn't gain much when we weigh again I'll rent a pump to boost my supply. I'll feed him that pumped milk. She was so optimistic and said he looks great and she saw him during his awake time in which he was kicking away and very alert.  He's just a sleepy nurser... she showed me and I tried a different hold (I've never seen before with a newborn) baby sitting upright facing breast and it keeps him awake longer. I know the peace of mind and her calmness so far has really been good for my nerves. I don't need to be stressing, my 4 year old did almost the exact same thing weight wise and was on the small side until he was 2 or so. I was also all of 16 or 17 lbs at a year old and I was formula early solids and cereal fed. All of my neices and nephews are teeny kiddos (formula fed). I still wish I had ''caught'' some of this sooner but am also aware that genetics play a part in things. again thanks for asking .

post #4 of 6

nak...

 

glad to hear the positive update!

post #5 of 6

Great news - sounds like you have a good IBCLC and are on top of things!

 

My guy lost over a pound after birth and there was never any talk of supplementing. He was back to birthweight around 15 days I think, and has stuck to his 50% growth curve (WHO chart) ever since. He was a sleepy nurser too - I needed to work at keeping him awake and actively transferring milk. He never got dehydrated so sounds a lot like your baby! And I don't have any other kids at home to distract me either!

 

Please let us know how it goes!

post #6 of 6
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thanks patiogardener !! I took him for a weight check today and he has gained an ounce a day. I was a little worried b/c I missed my alarm last night and he slept 5 hours. I was just so tired I turned it off and fell back asleep. I am going to continue to wake him every 2 hours for a while longer and then space it to 3 . That's the plan for now smile.gif I'll just have to make myself get up and pee or something so I don't fall back asleep. He's nursing good enough now that I probably can doze back off at night after hes latched. I'm not having to do nearly as many compressions and he's cluster feeding like crazy in the evenings. We haven't exactly mastered side lying yet. I never did with ds until he was 4 months or so. He just sleeps on my chest or the boppy. Anyways theres my update! we will have another weigh in next wednesday and as long as he has gained 4-8 oz from his weight last wednesday we will not be going back unless we need to. I'll just drop in @ the midwives now and then to weigh him. Their scale said the same as the lc's within a couple grams so it should be accurate.

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