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What a sweet little face he has. Congrats! I think all the other momma's have said anything I could think of about the bfing. Though I will add the ladies in the bfing forum are awesome and very helpful and have some of the most info I've ever seen. So worth a pop over there if you have the time. Though it sounds like you are quite busy with your new little one! 

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Here are some pics!  He is wonderful.  A great, great baby.

 

The baby moon is ok...we're really struggling with breast feeding and I am feeling like a lactation machine.  We had a tongue tie, which made it so my milk took forever to come in, and now I have low supply.  Plus a sleepy baby.  We're breast feeding, pumping, and supplementing with formula.  At all hours of the day.  So I feel sort of chained to the bed and the pump.  It's really, really tough!  We've been visited by an LC and had chats with lots of professionals.  Gah.  I don't want to take Reglan.  We'll see where all this is headed.  I sort of wish I could just enjoy the baby and not have to go through all this.   


Hey Maurine, I hope that things are getting easier with the breastfeeding!  Here are some great resources that you probably already know about, but just in case you don't, here is my rant that I sent to my mom after my sister's baby was born.  Feel free to pm me if you want more ranting!  GOOD LUCK!  Those first weeks are awesome, but overwhelming.  Don't be afraid to ask for help.  Big hugs to you:

 


Ask what training the lactation consultant has.  If she’s not an IBCLC (International  Board Certified Lactation Consultant), find an IBCLC right away. Here’s how:  http://www.ilca.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3432  Even if you like this current woman, DON’T WAIT until there are major problems to get expert help.  You can’t tell if your current LC knows her stuff unless she has good certification.  Finger feeding is for helping babies who won’t latch, not babies who can latch (babies who can latch should be supplemented at the breast if it‘s needed at all). http://www.breastfeedingonline.com/8pdf.pdf  


Eat oatmeal (stimulates milk production), lots of good fats (full fat yogurt/milk, eggs, etc), and the tea that I’m sending her (http://www.westernbotanicals.com/cfpages/prod_detail.cfm?RECNO=hflact01&english=1&type=4), which should be at her house Monday afternoon.  Ask her if you can PLEASE make her a smoothie with a chunk of placenta in it--tell her you’ll put strawberries in it to cover the color and she won’t even taste it.  It’s GREAT for milk production, healing, birth recovery, iron levels, etc.  I did this and DIDN’T TASTE IT a bit.

Getting a good latch: http://www.breastfeedingonline.com/newman.shtml Scroll down to the segment titled “Latching” … there are excellent handouts and videos.  If you could read and watch these, I think it would really help.

More skin to skin:  Why did baby’s temperature drop when they were doing this?  That’s weird since mom’s body should make it much warmer than just blankets alone.  Did they not have blankets over the two of them?  Did baby have a hat on?  http://www.breastfeedingonline.com/Skintoskinpdf.pdf

Positioning: http://www.llli.org/faq/positioning.html

Using a lactation Aid (and an explanation of why it‘s better than finger feeding, cup feeding, or using a syringe or bottle to supplement): http://www.breastfeedingonline.com/5pdf.pdf
and a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezGIkIkhC_o

How to know if baby’s getting enough milk: http://www.breastfeedingonline.com/4pdf.pdf

More videos of Dr Jack Newman (because he’s awesome and I’m sure some will help): http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=dr+jack+newman+videos&aq=f
 

 

post #83 of 92

Hey Maurine! Your son is such a cutie! Hope everything has gotten easier in the last week.

 

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Hey Maurine, I hope that things are getting easier with the breastfeeding!  Here are some great resources that you probably already know about, but just in case you don't, here is my rant that I sent to my mom after my sister's baby was born.  Feel free to pm me if you want more ranting!  GOOD LUCK!  Those first weeks are awesome, but overwhelming.  Don't be afraid to ask for help.  Big hugs to you:

 


Ask what training the lactation consultant has.  If she’s not an IBCLC (International  Board Certified Lactation Consultant), find an IBCLC right away. Here’s how:  http://www.ilca.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3432  Even if you like this current woman, DON’T WAIT until there are major problems to get expert help.  You can’t tell if your current LC knows her stuff unless she has good certification.  Finger feeding is for helping babies who won’t latch, not babies who can latch (babies who can latch should be supplemented at the breast if it‘s needed at all). http://www.breastfeedingonline.com/8pdf.pdf  


Eat oatmeal (stimulates milk production), lots of good fats (full fat yogurt/milk, eggs, etc), and the tea that I’m sending her (http://www.westernbotanicals.com/cfpages/prod_detail.cfm?RECNO=hflact01&english=1&type=4), which should be at her house Monday afternoon.  Ask her if you can PLEASE make her a smoothie with a chunk of placenta in it--tell her you’ll put strawberries in it to cover the color and she won’t even taste it.  It’s GREAT for milk production, healing, birth recovery, iron levels, etc.  I did this and DIDN’T TASTE IT a bit.

Getting a good latch: http://www.breastfeedingonline.com/newman.shtml Scroll down to the segment titled “Latching” … there are excellent handouts and videos.  If you could read and watch these, I think it would really help.

More skin to skin:  Why did baby’s temperature drop when they were doing this?  That’s weird since mom’s body should make it much warmer than just blankets alone.  Did they not have blankets over the two of them?  Did baby have a hat on?  http://www.breastfeedingonline.com/Skintoskinpdf.pdf

Positioning: http://www.llli.org/faq/positioning.html

Using a lactation Aid (and an explanation of why it‘s better than finger feeding, cup feeding, or using a syringe or bottle to supplement): http://www.breastfeedingonline.com/5pdf.pdf
and a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezGIkIkhC_o

How to know if baby’s getting enough milk: http://www.breastfeedingonline.com/4pdf.pdf

More videos of Dr Jack Newman (because he’s awesome and I’m sure some will help): http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=dr+jack+newman+videos&aq=f
 

 


These are great resources! I had difficulty breastfeeding DS1 for the first few months, and I was using a lactation aid at first because I was not making enough milk. But everything became easier as we kept working on it. Good luck.

 

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post #85 of 92

He is simply gorgeous!!!!

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Hey everyone.  Thanks for all your words of love and support!  I've been totally amazed at how many other people are going through/have gone through the bf'ing struggles I am facing.  The good part...we've been off formula for over a week and he's only getting breast milk.  The bad part, he's still getting a bottle when he's not getting enough at the breast.  I pump after about every other of the feedings, and also when he gets a bottle.  I am lucky to get an ounce combined when I do.  But, so far that seems to be enough to supplement him.  He feeds at the breast really well sometimes, and other times he can't get a letdown and gets sleepy and kind of gives up.  :(  But he's gaining weight well (over an ounce a day so far, let's hope it keeps up).  The pumping is slowly driving me nutty though and I can't get enough sleep.  I am in a total fog during lots of those night feedings.  Anyway, so many moms I've talked to have low supply issues!  I wonder what it is?  Perhaps docs are too quick to prescribe formula, which of course affects the mom's supply.  Hm...

 

Anyway, I am glad to see that so many babies are arrving!!  Yay August!!

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Perhaps docs are too quick to prescribe formula, which of course affects the mom's supply.  Hm...

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I'm happy to hear he's getting so much breastmilk!!  And that weight gain sounds wonderful.  You are doing beautifully, Maurine!!

 

Increasing supply - I've used More Milk Plus tincture with great results.  I was able to increase my pumping output using that tincture.  Here is where I bought it.  I've also seen it at Whole Foods, in case you have one near you.

 

Keep up the fabulous work.  I'm sure you're exhausted but once you get through this, and you will, you will be so proud of yourself and of your baby! We are all rooting for you!!

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Perhaps docs are too quick to prescribe formula, which of course affects the mom's supply.  Hm...

 


They tried to do that to my sister too (at 4am).  You sound like you are doing SO well!

 

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The good part...we've been off formula for over a week and he's only getting breast milk.  The bad part, he's


Concentrate on the good part.  Because, quite frankly, an ounce per day of weight gain is great.  Really.  Even for moms who have "fabulous" supply, that's a significant and real weight gain.  And you're off the formula!!  That's GREAT GREAT GREAT.  It means that you're making progress, and if you're making progress, then you're heading down the right road.  Others have given you great advice for increasing supply.  I just wanted to chime in and say that it sounds like you're doing beautifully. Just keep at it, and it gets better.  So much better.

 

FWIW, it's completely normal to be in a fog during nighttime feedings (and really, for most of the day).  That's just part of being a new mama.  Which it sounds like you're kicking butt at doing!

 

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Hey everyone.  Thanks for all your words of love and support!  I've been totally amazed at how many other people are going through/have gone through the bf'ing struggles I am facing.  The good part...we've been off formula for over a week and he's only getting breast milk.  The bad part, he's still getting a bottle when he's not getting enough at the breast.  I pump after about every other of the feedings, and also when he gets a bottle.  I am lucky to get an ounce combined when I do.  


Awesome that you're now able to exclusively bf him. Btw, getting an ounce of milk through pumping is not at all bad for a new mom, esp. since you're feeding your son as well and he's gaining weight. I wonder if you really do have supply issues or if you two just need to work on latch/not falling asleep. I'd keep working with a good lactation consultant to figure out why he continues to need the bottle.

 

And yes, I think there's a tendency among doc's to assume that bf babies should be behaving the same as ff babies in terms of growth patterns etc, and hence they blame low supply rather than understanding that supply needs to be established. 

 

Good luck!

 

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 I wonder if you really do have supply issues or if you two just need to work on latch/not falling asleep. I'd keep working with a good lactation consultant to figure out why he continues to need the bottle.

 



Thanks all!  I am starting to wonder the same thing.  I think we just need to work on latch and my own let down...  Some feedings are great and others are teary, but I think we're getting a bit better?  I just wish I knew for sure about supply...oh well.  We have a follow up with the LC tomorrow.  Maybe that will clear things up.  I am pumping more milk per day than he is drinking from the bottle, so I am ahead of the curve as far as his needs.  He just doesn't always want to drink well at the boob...then we have a very upset hungry baby.

 

post #92 of 92

Congratulations! I am so, so happy for you!

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