Primal family - Page 8

[Primal Parent]

Hi there! I just joined this group today. I have been primal for over six years and run a primal parenting blog called The Primal Parent. 

I've got kids lunch ideas posted at my website as well as my own quite extreme version of paleo. I'm a carnivore!

It's nice to join the group of primal mothers!

http://theprimalparent.com

[Primal Parent]

Primal and Paleo are just words both referring to ancestral diets - they aren't anything specific. 

Loren Cordain got the whole thing going with The Paleo Diet - he was anti dairy and low fat (which these days we call faileo. I started paleo back then and it really was freakin hard with such low fat.)

Mark Sisson took another angle with his book the Primal Blueprint. He does a little dairy and super high fat. 

The words have pretty much become attached to these two different figures, but you really can use them interchangeably. 

Everyone who eats primal/paleo has their own style. Some include raw diary, some don't. Some are totally against dairy in general. It can be a heated debate but that debate is not attached to the words themselves. 

[sosurreal09]

NVM sorry

[Maiasaura]

Originally Posted by Primal Parent which these days we call faileo

faileo

Originally Posted by sosurreal09 NVM sorry

What does NVM mean?
 

[sosurreal09]

never mind

[Koalamom]

Originally Posted by Primal Parent 

which these days we call faileo.

[sosurreal09]

Question you guys may be able to help me with.

Which eggs do you think are better?

Organic eggs whose hens are fed- corn, soy, and flaxseed.

non organic eggs whose hens are fed- soy meal, rice meal, alfalfa meal, sea kelp, vitamin E, and canola oil/flax seeds.

[Lazurii]

Sosurreal, that's a hard one.  I think I would personally go with the non-organic eggs because of the variety of the feed.  I hate it when chickens are fed only two or three things.  I would think the more variety the more nutritionally complex the eggs.

[sosurreal09]

Originally Posted by Lazurii 

Sosurreal, that's a hard one.  I think I would personally go with the non-organic eggs because of the variety of the feed.  I hate it when chickens are fed only two or three things.  I would think the more variety the more nutritionally complex the eggs.

That is what I was thinking, which is why I asked. They cost about the same, and neither are free range unfortunately...

[gardenmommy]

I would go with the non-organic eggs, unless you have a strict reason for purchasing organic.  

Do any of you mamas have school-age children, and if so, are you packing lunches?  How are you doing with packing primal-type lunches?  
 

Originally Posted by sosurreal09 

Question you guys may be able to help me with.

Which eggs do you think are better?

Organic eggs whose hens are fed- corn, soy, and flaxseed.

non organic eggs whose hens are fed- soy meal, rice meal, alfalfa meal, sea kelp, vitamin E, and canola oil/flax seeds.

[sosurreal09]

OK so I bought both since we eat so many eggs!

According to the package the organic have 400mg omega 3's per 2 eggs and the non organic have 115 (doesn't say a serving size maybe just 1 egg?)

But the non organic has a nice orange yolk while the organic yolk is more or a bright yellow.

So omega 3's are important in eggs, but I always thought the more orange the yolk the better? The bright yellow yolk supposedly is more nutritious...

So now what do you think?

[Primal Parent]

Do any of you mamas have school-age children, and if so, are you packing lunches?  How are you doing with packing primal-type lunches?  

I have kiddos who I pack lunches for. And I've even started a school lunch series on my website for some ideas! I'll be posting another one tomorrow.

http://theprimalparent.com/category/school-lunch-box/

[Primal Parent]

So you are saying that you serve soup (bone broth plus veggies, then pureed) for breakfast and lunch?  While I love this idea, and could totally see myself having that for those meals, I'm pretty sure I have at least one child who would soon be starving.  How do you get your children to eat that?  One child in particular has told me that her least favorite part of vegetable beef soup (which is basically bone broth, veggies, and a small amount of beef) is the broth.  

My daughter eats a lot of soups too. She's cool with it. I think kids get used to the things we give them. In the winters we eat soup EVERY SINGLE DAY and she doesn't complain about it. She likes them, but she doesn't like fresh cilantro... can't seem to get her into that :)

[Toolip]

Originally Posted by sosurreal09 

OK so I bought both since we eat so many eggs!

According to the package the organic have 400mg omega 3's per 2 eggs and the non organic have 115 (doesn't say a serving size maybe just 1 egg?)

But the non organic has a nice orange yolk while the organic yolk is more or a bright yellow.

So omega 3's are important in eggs, but I always thought the more orange the yolk the better? The bright yellow yolk supposedly is more nutritious...

So now what do you think?

I don't know specifically about store eggs but lots (most? all?) conventional chicken feed that you get at the feed store has orange coloring of some kind to make the yolks yellower.... so it's not necessarily an indication of a healthy egg, they could be coloring them artificially.

[Primal Parent]

Originally Posted by organicviolin 

OK so I have a question here.  This forum is fascinating.  I am a HUGE foody and have totally changed our diets in the course of 4 years.  At any rate...is that primal diet (from what I understand it to be, lots of meat, saturated fat etc and limited carbs/breads etc) similar to following the WAP guidelines?  We do eat fruit, loads of veggies, loads of meat and loads of butter, lard, coconut products and some grains that have been soaked and sprouted - they are also mostly GF.  Not the crap in the store though - homemade.  We also do a lot of bone broth.  Is that a primal type diet??  I just don't see the difference between WAP guidelines and primal and or paleo diets.

Any one care to clarify??  Are we primal(y)? lol

Other than the grains, yep, that's Primal. Sounds like you guys have a rockin diet!

[sosurreal09]

WOW thanks for that I had no idea! All the store brand eggs we ever got were pale pale pale! (like sickly pale) So it was between Pete and Gerry's Organic and Eggland's Best, since I have no idea if EB has dye in it I guess P&G's would be better based on the Omega 3's?
 

Originally Posted by Toolip 



I don't know specifically about store eggs but lots (most? all?) conventional chicken feed that you get at the feed store has orange coloring of some kind to make the yolks yellower.... so it's not necessarily an indication of a healthy egg, they could be coloring them artificially.

[Millie Ivy]

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[Primal Parent]

I just wanted to let everyone know that I've just created a forum for Primal families. It's quite a bit more organized than this one since there are lots of categories in which to post. 

I just opened it today so there isn't much activity yet, but with all the subscribers I have to my blog, there will be soon. 

Please come by and check it out. Suggestions are welcome!

http://theprimalparent.com/primal-paleo-forum-kids-parents-family/

(it is brand new, so there may be kinks...)

[sosurreal09]

I have a question for you actually I was reading your blog and you said that parenting i not really emotional and that you wanted to share how people parented in primal times (paraphrasing here) so I am wondering how exactly you think parenting was back then?

I was sort of under the impression that a lot of AP (maybe not GD, but I've got no clue) was primal/instinctual. BFing, co sleeping, carrying the baby all the time, etc. Now I'm thinking it was mostly due to dangers and what not, you wouldn't leave a baby in the cave while you go picking berries for instance. The natural age of weaning is between 2-6 y/o so "extended" BFing would totally be the norm. That type of thing.

I don't really see how there aren't a lot of feeling about parenting and things like that....
 

Originally Posted by Primal Parent 

I just wanted to let everyone know that I've just created a forum for Primal families. It's quite a bit more organized than this one since there are lots of categories in which to post. 

I just opened it today so there isn't much activity yet, but with all the subscribers I have to my blog, there will be soon. 

Please come by and check it out. Suggestions are welcome!

http://theprimalparent.com/primal-paleo-forum-kids-parents-family/

(it is brand new, so there may be kinks...)

[gardenmommy]

Originally Posted by Primal Parent 

My daughter eats a lot of soups too. She's cool with it. I think kids get used to the things we give them. In the winters we eat soup EVERY SINGLE DAY and she doesn't complain about it. She likes them, but she doesn't like fresh cilantro... can't seem to get her into that :)

I do agree with you that children get used to what we provide.  However, there are sensory issues at work with at least two of my children, and that plays into some of the things they refuse to eat.  By most peoples' standards, my children are not picky; they do have things they just cannot tolerate, and I do have bigger things to worry about than whether or not they eat soup.  They will usually at least try most things, but the child in question will not even touch anything with tomatoes (in any form).  In my opinion, it's not the hill to die on, although I do keep trying.   I'm off to check out your website.