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post #261 of 446
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Originally Posted by Maiasaura View Post



 


I so hear that about picky. Yours is, what, 5, PNWmama? Don't worry about it, really, nor you, karen-- mine's 10 and he used to be the exact.same.way. Start now with things like...one of the things I did early on was introduce the Ugly Food Principle. Our church had done this really neat thing in PreK with an ugly wrapped package compared to a pretty one wrapped with a sparkly bow. The ugly one had the cool contents, and the pretty one contained nothing. The lesson was about people, how you never know what's "inside", but I took it further, with food. I told ds, you know how sometimes a food is really gross looking but it tastes incredible? Like a smashed piece of cake, for instance. Or you can have something really pretty and it tastes like cardboard. That's how I got him to start trying things. Also the idea that "What if I don't like it?"-- I said, one time, "What if you DO??" and he really took that to heart. He realized he could be missing out on a whole host of liking things, not to mention, you only have the Yuck Factor once-- if he didn't like it, he never has to have it again, and it was only yucky for one second. That's not so bad.

 

PNW-- he will. He will eat vegetables for themselves. Have patience hug2.gif Give him lots of the ones he does like, and maybe ONE bite of something new each week. Introduce the Ugly Food Principle and the One Second Yuck Factor lol.gif

 

Have you tried frozen veggies? Right from the container? He's a little old, maybe, but mine at 2yo or so used to LOVE them, though it made me want to hurl.

 


Hmm, I'm wondering if you could take the Ugly Food Principle a step further and talk about how some foods that are pretty (cake, sweets, etc) are nutritionally empty, while some foods that we don't like so much (greens, etc) are full of good stuff.

 

post #262 of 446
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Originally Posted by Lazurii View PostHmm, I'm wondering if you could take the Ugly Food Principle a step further and talk about how some foods that are pretty (cake, sweets, etc) are nutritionally empty, while some foods that we don't like so much (greens, etc) are full of good stuff.

 

Well...you could, but when I was a kid, I used to clam right up at the words "good for you" lol.gif You could, though, say that, for instance, green beans are ugly but are full of good stuff.

But I find that using the theory to explain taste goes a lot further. I don't believe for a red hot second that kids care a whit about nutrition. But that's my experience shrug.gif I don't know why we forget that when we become parents! winky.gif

No, I have never said "because I said so" lol.gif (and yes, I'm lying through my teeth)!

post #263 of 446
Oh fellow primals, I am straying from this diet trying to figure out what is going on with me. This morning I had oatmeal and ya know what, I felt great. Crazy I know. It is like I am a pendulum and not at the right place. I was vegetarian and felt great at first and then absolutely horrible for years afterward. Then going TF and felt great at first and then terrible. Now primal, and great at first but then my body is not thriving at all. I still feel better than ever but not at my peak and not what I would call sustained. So I am going to do primal with some oatmeal and see how that goes. I know ya'll would say white rice is the least detrimental grain, but rice really messes with me.
post #264 of 446

Oh my goodness!  I made this hot cereal for breakfast today and YUM!!!!!  I've been craving my morning oatmeal since the weather has gotten fallish, and a bowl of this totally hit the spot.  Seriously, better then my old oatmeal ever tasted.  Lots of nut, so I'm sure high in calories, but so worth it!  I'll have to try it out on the kids tomorrow morning.  Thank you Karen for linking this recipe in  your post on the previous page.

post #265 of 446
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Originally Posted by Koalamom View Post

Oh fellow primals, I am straying from this diet trying to figure out what is going on with me. This morning I had oatmeal and ya know what, I felt great. Crazy I know. It is like I am a pendulum and not at the right place. I was vegetarian and felt great at first and then absolutely horrible for years afterward. Then going TF and felt great at first and then terrible. Now primal, and great at first but then my body is not thriving at all. I still feel better than ever but not at my peak and not what I would call sustained. So I am going to do primal with some oatmeal and see how that goes. I know ya'll would say white rice is the least detrimental grain, but rice really messes with me.


I feel this way, too!  Although I haven't actually started being Primal yet (just looking and dabbling) every other regieme I've started has started great but then I don't feel so great after a while.  So if you ever do find your answer, please share.  I would like to know why it is.

 

post #266 of 446
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So I stayed at a friends house for a few days and *tried* to stay primal...but we had pasta as a meal one day...

 

Well as you guys know I am pregnant. Let's just say my body rejected the wheat like never before I was sick for a couple of DAYS. I had the runs (TMI sorry) like 10x every day after eating it...Then yesterday I very very stupidly ate a doughnut someone offered me (seriously I know, WTH was I thinking?) I was sick all day long maybe 20 trips to the bathroom...

 

So looks like I am on strict primal this pregnancy!

 

I did try adding some dairy to see if it affected my nursling. I haven't noticed a change in here so far..What do you guys think about dairy? I know it's allowed limited, but IDK I question if it's actually good for us. I added a bit of heavy organic cream for tea/smoothies and added in some cheese.

 

 

post #267 of 446
for us, we do dairy. However never pasturized....only raw. That's for cheese, yogurt, kefir, milk and cream
post #268 of 446

Lazuri, have you heard of the low-carb flu? It's a silly name for what sometimes happens when we change our eating - we feel worse before we feel better! In your case you have that bit of feeling better before feeling worse. But I wonder if you just need to give it more time? I don't know what your time frame is here...how long better, how long worse. I also went through some not feeling good stages in the early days (first month or two.)  Have you looked into leaky gut syndrome? Or FODMAPs? I wonder if any of that info would help you suss out the issues.

 

If you feel you MUST have oatmeal, then you must...there are no Paleo police who are going to give you a ticket. winky.gif  I would, however, maker sure it's gluten-free oatmeal. Bob's Red Mill offers both rolled and steel-cut certified gluten free oats; I'm sure other companies do as well.

 

I'm glad people are liking the hot cereal! I haven't tried it yet myself (we're having a heat wave at the moment), but it's on my list when the chilly mornings arrive.

 

We do do dairy...not much for me, but lots for my son. I buy grass-fed when I can, organic when I can't; raw is difficult to obtain here in Oregon. If you are concerned dairy isn't good for you, I say cut it out for 30 days and see how you feel. Then reintroduce at full levels and see how you feel. I do OK with butter, yogurt, and cream, but had some ice cream a few weeks back that really messed with my gut. It can be very individual. But esp. if you are of Northern European descent, you might be OK with some dairy.

post #269 of 446

Anyone know what in squash might be causing me (and the baby :( ) problems?

 

We grew a lot of squash in the garden this year, and it's becoming clear that it's causing me and the baby digestive symptoms - gas, diarrhea, mucousy poop for the baby. I didn't mind when it was just the pattypans because I'm not all that fond of them, but the yummy winter squashes that are starting to come ripe seem to be causing similar issues, and I'm a little heartbroken about that - I've been having a lot of fun with them (and we have a LOT of them growing).

 

Zucchini is fine. I have similar issues from large amounts of carrots.

 

FODMAPS don't seem to be the issue here - I haven't noted problems with most of the foods on that list, and squashes aren't particularly high in FODMAPS anyways.

post #270 of 446
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Originally Posted by ocelotmom View Post

Anyone know what in squash might be causing me (and the baby :( ) problems?

 

We grew a lot of squash in the garden this year, and it's becoming clear that it's causing me and the baby digestive symptoms - gas, diarrhea, mucousy poop for the baby. I didn't mind when it was just the pattypans because I'm not all that fond of them, but the yummy winter squashes that are starting to come ripe seem to be causing similar issues, and I'm a little heartbroken about that - I've been having a lot of fun with them (and we have a LOT of them growing).

 

Zucchini is fine. I have similar issues from large amounts of carrots.

 

FODMAPS don't seem to be the issue here - I haven't noted problems with most of the foods on that list, and squashes aren't particularly high in FODMAPS anyways.


Ouch!  I can't find any references, but I'm wondering about inulin--or perhaps it's simply too much fiber for you?

 

post #271 of 446
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Originally Posted by sosurreal09 View Post

So I stayed at a friends house for a few days and *tried* to stay primal...but we had pasta as a meal one day...

 

Well as you guys know I am pregnant. Let's just say my body rejected the wheat like never before I was sick for a couple of DAYS. I had the runs (TMI sorry) like 10x every day after eating it...Then yesterday I very very stupidly ate a doughnut someone offered me (seriously I know, WTH was I thinking?) I was sick all day long maybe 20 trips to the bathroom...

 

So looks like I am on strict primal this pregnancy!

 

I did try adding some dairy to see if it affected my nursling. I haven't noticed a change in here so far..What do you guys think about dairy? I know it's allowed limited, but IDK I question if it's actually good for us. I added a bit of heavy organic cream for tea/smoothies and added in some cheese.

 

 

 

Good you found this out so early!  Remember that gluten stays in your system for up to 6 weeks, so it's really best to keep it completely out of your diet.


If you tolerated dairy well prior to going Primal, then you will probably be fine during pregnancy.  (Gluten irritates the gut lining which can trigger a dairy intolerance in many folk--so notice how you feel when you eat dairy.)

 

However, when you start nursing your new baby, you may need to avoid dairy if they are having any reactions. 

If you stay strictly gluten-free and keep good gut flora during the rest of your pregnancy, this is less likely to be any issue.   You will be passing on your gut flora to your new baby, so "cheating" on gluten grains is not good for either of you. 

post #272 of 446
I am back again, lol! That didn't last long. Oats failed and made me feel so sick.

Since I long to be vegetarian, I have decided to stay primal, but up the veggies alot.

I had soup and black tea for breakfast and it was just nice. I opened the one cookbook that I was avoiding because it was so big. It actually has a ton of amazing grain free recipes. Traditional recipes from Italy, pasta free.
post #273 of 446
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You long to be vegetarian and you went primal? LOL seems a little backwards winky.gif

post #274 of 446
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Originally Posted by sosurreal09 View Post

You long to be vegetarian and you went primal? LOL seems a little backwards winky.gif



I'm in the same boat.  I was veg*n for 4 years and loved it, but my body started rebelling.  I think if I were to finally launch into this Primal thing I would be vegetable heavy.

post #275 of 446
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Originally Posted by sosurreal09 View Post

You long to be vegetarian and you went primal? LOL seems a little backwards winky.gif


I feel absolutely terrible as a vegetarian, but did it for 8 years anyway. I feel the best on primal, but hate eating meat.
post #276 of 446
Thread Starter 

OIC well there is certainly nothing wrong with having a ton of veggies!

post #277 of 446
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Originally Posted by Koalamom View Post



I feel absolutely terrible as a vegetarian, but did it for 8 years anyway. I feel the best on primal, but hate eating meat.


Morally/ethically, I'd like to be vegetarian, but have never lasted longer than a week.  After 4 days or so I felt like I wasn't getting what I needed (I was nursing or pregnant both times I tried the switch). But I do have concerns about animal welfare, and the environment, especially since I've seen the damage that "grass fed" beef does to natural landscapes in the sierra's.  I think there are places where it can be done in harmony with the environment, but its hard to know where everything is coming from, unless you can find a local CSA.....

 

 

post #278 of 446
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Originally Posted by Mom&BabyChiro View Post

How strictly does everyone follow their Paleo/primal/grain free diet? 80/20? Or more closely?

My husband and I are planning to start the Whole 30 program http://whole9life.com/2011/06/whole-30-v4/ tomorrow. We have already noticed some big improvements the last month of more loosely following this way of eating. But have been indulging in almond meal choc chip cookies and dairy products quite a bit. So we really want to see how our bodies will respond going a good length of time completely grain, legume, dairy, sugar, chocolate and caffeine free.


I've been *mostly* following it for about 3 weeks, but I think I am ready to really take the plunge, and do the 30 day challenge that is starting on "Marks Daily Apple" on monday. I don't think I'll be quite as strict as the guidelines in the whole 30 program (occasional teaspoon of honey in my tea, can't find dark chocolate without soy lecithin, and I've been into pastured butter lately (tho I can't eat milk, and try to keep cheese at a minimum)).  Your program sounds great, and I'm sure you will feel great when you are done!  Lately when I "cheat" and have popcorn or chips, I feel much worse, so it makes it easier to stick with it (I do a food diary, sometimes with everything I eat, and sometimes just highlighting how I feel after eating certain foods, so I can remember.)  In just a few weeks of going grain free my sugar cravings are almost gone, I also lost 2 lbs even though I am 7 months pregnant. (not that I'm trying to loose weight. my midwife says its fine, and will probably stabilize.)

 

post #279 of 446
Thread Starter 

So what do you guys think about this? Someone on a FB group page was saying that a vegan/veg diet was supreme for pregnant mothers especially from our primal ancestors POV. They said meat was a dangerous food for pregnant women (b/c they wouldn't risk hunting).

 

My thoughts would be that the man would be hunting anyways...women were always the gatherers, but certainly the mate would provide meat for his pregnant partner.

post #280 of 446
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Originally Posted by sosurreal09 View Post

So what do you guys think about this? Someone on a FB group page was saying that a vegan/veg diet was supreme for pregnant mothers especially from our primal ancestors POV. They said meat was a dangerous food for pregnant women (b/c they wouldn't risk hunting).

 

My thoughts would be that the man would be hunting anyways...women were always the gatherers, but certainly the mate would provide meat for his pregnant partner.

 

ROFLMAO!

 

Someone needs to do their research.  You are right on target, sosurreal!
 

 

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