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post #41 of 446

So excited to see this thread! My dh started eating primal a couple of months ago, and I've been doing it for just over two weeks. We're not perfect yet, but trying. I agree with going cold turkey with the kids.  Once I cleaned out my pantry, it made a big difference.

post #42 of 446
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Is this for a week or a month?  I'm on GAPS right now and it's just so darn expensive.  So if this is what you do for a month then I know it's possible to keep my budget down!
 



That is for the month! We are really big on eggs and go through about 120 a month so that is our cheap protein (since it is conventional) everything else we buy is organic and we try and get as much local as we can.

 

A few days ago at MIL house a neighbor was selling things from her garden we got 6 cucumbers and 9 yellow squash for $4! It was organic too!

post #43 of 446

Do you have any CSAs near you? We're lucky, we have a lot to choose from around here. Many of them will swap garden help for veggie shares - only like 3-4 hours a week for a full share!
 

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That is for the month! We are really big on eggs and go through about 120 a month so that is our cheap protein (since it is conventional) everything else we buy is organic and we try and get as much local as we can.

 

A few days ago at MIL house a neighbor was selling things from her garden we got 6 cucumbers and 9 yellow squash for $4! It was organic too!



 

post #44 of 446
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Is anyone here concerned about the unsustainability of this diet? 



Nope - we get 95% of our food from with 50 miles of our home (most of much closer.) Coconut oil, mustard, spices and olive oil aren't so local. When animals are raised on pasture, it's waaaay more sustainable than agricultural crops.

Here's an article from a few days ago about Joel Salatin and his VA-based Polyface Farm - the model of sustainable farming at its best!
http://www.theatlantic.com/life/archive/2011/07/inside-polyface-farm-mecca-of-sustainable-agriculture/242493/



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Since I've stopped being vegan, my diet is much more sustainable.  Lierre Keith does an excellent analysis.  All my animal products, both dairy and meat are from local animals & from farms I know.  I actually still eat plant strong, and luckily keep it from the farmer's market this time of year..



Yep, Lierre Keith - good book.

post #45 of 446

Subbing.  

post #46 of 446
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Is anyone here concerned about the unsustainability of this diet? 


Pastured meat from mixed-herd farms (ones that run more than one kind of animal) is much more sustainable than "normal" meat and, given what I know about them, much more sustainable than conventionally grown vegetable diets. Go look at Metasequoia's link--Joel Salatin is one of the founding movers in the rebirth of this style of agriculture.

 

Okay . . . so I'm not doing this--yet--but . . . are whole grains really out? Totally? A fair amount of our family diet is mostly whole-grain bread (with freshly ground grain), and I have to admit we are pretty fond of it. How has the conversion from whole grains worked for those of you who have made it? And are beans a goner too?

 

post #47 of 446

We're eating primally as a family now. Cut out grains from my diet about 8 months ago and from the children's about 4 months ago. It's been great so far. The kids have stop thier constant pestering for food (which was driving me insane) and are eating more vegetables than ever (and except the little one they were all fairly good on that already). My eldest, who was all skin and bone, has put on a bit of weight and my other two, who were getting a little too much on the chubby side (baby fat aside), have slimmed down a bit. I've lost a ton of weight and am feeling more energetic than I can ever remember being!

 

 We eat conventional beef  and lamb and organic chicken wherever possible. We have free range eggs and grass fed dairy. When we can afford it we'll switch to better sources for everything but for us, conventional red meat seems like a lesser evil than not eating it! Particularly lamb which is grass raised any way (or at least it is here).

 

Beans and grains are gone from our menu. It has made my hypoglycaemia disappear! It took a bit of getting used to adjusting our meal planning.The first few weeks were more expensive as I figured out new meal plans and our appetites adjusted. But I found that once we were adapted to LCHF eating we don't miss the grains. We occasionally make some grain free treats like chocolate chip cookies but by and large we didn't try to duplicate grain based meals with alternatives.

post #48 of 446

I am starting to feel inspired.  Thank you ladies.  I think with some more planning and research, I will be able to switch over to a much healthier diet.

 

 

post #49 of 446

We've been primal and loving it for about 6 weeks now. No time to go in depth right now.....subbing for later.

post #50 of 446

You should really read some books on the subject.  Asking random questions of strangers as they occur to you is not the best way feed your family.  I recommend Mark Sisson's "Primal Blueprint", and Robb Wolf's "Paleo Solution" to start.  Another book I want to read is by Loren Cordain.

 

I am totally Paleo, and my kids are 3/4 paleo.  Because everyone on earth feeds kids macaroni and cheese, I don't think it is realistic to fully convert them.  At home, they are almost totally Paleo, plus milk.  One of the effects I've seen is that my 5 year old son is no longer skinny with a big round belly.  His belly is flat and he is getting muscular.  That is pretty cool.

 

My wife eats some diet she made up when she was 13 which is sort of low fat, high carb, no red meat.  Not healthy at all. 

post #51 of 446

How about vegetarians?  I cannot give that up in my life, but I feel ready to feed fish to my DH and babes.  I just do not know where to begin.  Being meat free is such a big part of my life and I will not change that for myself, but am I doing a disservice to my children?  My husband is also passionately meat free but feels okay with fish.  We eat a lot of eggs and I am looking into a source for raw milk but I just cannot bring myself to eat or serve meat on my table.  I want to give my family the best possible nutrition.  We do legumes a lot, quinoa, and nuts, but I mostly rely on eggs for protein.  The thing is I just do not feel like we are getting enough good protein.  I have a 5 yr old girl, 3 yr old boy, and 5 month old nursing babe who wants so badly to join in the family meals.  Thinking about egg yolks for him.  Any advice?  

post #52 of 446

BTW losing weight is not a concern.  I just want to be strong and healthy and have strong healthy kids.

post #53 of 446

I was seriously surprised to see this topic in my email from Mothering! I have been primal since April of this year. A friend of mine and my brother had so much success, feeling great, being taken off of meds, losing weight and generally just feeling healthier that I could not resist the idea any longer. My 16 year old son and I are the two in our house who are primal. My husband and 6 year old son are not. They eat what I cook, but still have a lot of the same things as before. We get a loaf of bread with the CSA, but other than that I don't buy bread for them. I push the veggies too!

 

The health and body shape changes happen so quickly, it's amazing. 

 

It sounds like a lot of people are limiting even things that are primal, such as fruit and nuts. We don't limit anything that is primal. As long as we're eating primal foods we eat until we're satisfied. Counting carbs or limiting fruit for me isn't in the spirit of the "diet" or rather way of life. I have thyroid disease and gained a lot of weight with that, so weight loss is important to me, but I still do not need to limit anything primal. I have lost 31 lbs since Jan, 21 lbs since being primal. While that's not some crazy amount, I also feel it is healthier to lose slowly. Eating Primal also tends to change your shape and composition, so focusing on pounds isn't the best indicator. I have been on plenty of diets that limit something or another, of course Primal eliminates foods, but the thing that helps a lot of people who once dieted is the freedom in this way of eating. There is no counting.

 

I also make plenty of Primal "goodies" when I have the time. We use honey, maple syrup. I eat dark chocolate when the ingredients are Primal, right oils etc. I make fruit nut mixture from the Reader Created cookbook available on Mark's site, I make the cookies from Everyday Paleo. We have smoothies all the time! (Still working on green smoothies as there are several raw greens that I can't eat with thyroid problems, mainly spinach.) Oh and I drink coffee, every day, sometimes several times a day. But that's just me. :) I remember the first time I made the cookies and how I felt the immediate need to limit my 6 year old son's consumption, then I realized I didn't need to. I hope to get him converted at some point. 

 

We follow Marks Daily Apple. Have his Primal Blueprint book and regular cook book. We also have Everyday Paleo. There are TONS of blogs with primal recipes. The Reader Created cookbooks on Mark's site are awesome too. 

 

I'll eat this way for the rest of my life. It isn't a diet, it is a way of life. You don't have to buy the books, MarksDailyApple will provide all the info you need. 

 

Nicole

post #54 of 446
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Right I have weight to lose period but I am mostly doing this for our overall health. I have always been omnivorous and ate WW carbs in somewhat moderation. I always ate low fat and no dairy trying to shed the weight but I couldn't EVER.

 

The only time I ever lost weight (healthily) was on an elimination diet for DD where I was down to eating green leafy vegs and chicken. I always did full fat chicken b/c my diet was so limited and I ate olive oil as well. I lost 80lbs in 7 months!

 

Then I didn't need to be on the diet anymore b/c DD didn't really have intolerances it was a whole different story and I gained 30lbs the month I re-introduced wheat (and that was WW bread, rice, and pasta only) but of course I was convinced I must need it b/c after all it's recommended by the SAD. (even though I felt and looked like crap)

 

So then I came across primal somehow and I thought about it for a long time. Now finally I am trying it out. I was 160lbs when I did the elimination diet and then I got all the way back up to 200lbs. I am 195 now on primal for 1 week. My goal is 150lbs (or maybe less?) but like I said I am not only doing this to lose weight. When I was on the elimination diet hardly eating anything ever, I was so energetic and not depressed etc. back on the SAD I am depressed, dependent on caffeine to make it through the day, fat, lazy, and unhappy. So primal to me is more of a lifestyle than a diet.

 

I didn't do awesome so far this week, I have been walking alot, but got AF and cheated a couple days and I feel gross and tired all day again, so today I am getting my butt in gear and hopping back on the primal wagon!

 

I know I should totally read the book but I have no $ to buy it...maybe I can find someone with a copy I could borrow. I will ask around.

post #55 of 446
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Also wanted to add my DD has always eaten primal (not by my choice) although she does like rice too. I do give her rice say once a week now. She's never been a huge meat eater but I am always working on that so maybe her diet has always been more of a raw fruit and veg type diet. I could never get her to eat crackers or "kid type" snacks, ever, so it has not really been a transition at all for her.

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post #57 of 446

This is an interesting thread.  My family and I are on a tight budget and belong to a CSA and go to the farmer's market.  We are trying to change our diets for the better.  The CSA has helped tremendously.  We are incorporating more whole grains and cutting out stuff with ingredients we can't pronounce etc.  It is difficult bc ds 6 is with his dad for half the week and his dad is picky and they eat a lot of garbage.  Before this thread I don't think I have ever heard of the primal diet.  I am interested in learning more, and will definitely be subbing.  Way to go to those that it is doing great things for!

 

Kellie

post #58 of 446

Hi ladies  quite pleased to see this tread in my email this am!   I've been primal since Nov 2010 - and I've seen tons of improvement - from weightloss of the baby weight, to improved wakefulness, better sleep etc.   I'm regularly on MDA and there's lots of good advice on transitioning kids to primal woe.  I'm close to 100% primal.  I'm also following Dr, Kruse's Leptin Reset,http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread32345.html eating 50g of protein in the am w/in 30min of waking... I've been at it for 8wks and I'm seeing some serious positive improvements,

 

I'm also in the process of moving dd(whos 3) to a more primal woe when I can control it - so I'm shooting for 70% of all her meals to be primal (since I can't control what she eats at dcp)   Ds is probably 90% primal - as he's still nursing, and he's pretty much a fan of meat, veggies, and fruit...he's so-so on potatoes, and rice.

 

Eggs, canned fish, beef, lamb. pork, wild game are in heavy rotation (we can't afford grass fed/finished beef - so we buy Costco - though I'm hoping to buy into a 1/2cow for $3.99/lb this fall when my cousin returns to dc ... right now we're slowly moving into offal.  So far heart and liver have been a big hits w/the kids... I make a liver pate that' 50g/serving - and its a great  for breakfast, lunch or dinner and the kids can't get enough of it... this winter we'll be doing lots of bone broths

post #59 of 446
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I'll eat this way for the rest of my life. It isn't a diet, it is a way of life. You don't have to buy the books, MarksDailyApple will provide all the info you need. 

 

I agree.  I don't have the time to follow Mark's site on a daily basis -- my favorite Primal blogs are PrimalMedEd (http://primalmeded.com/) and Tom Naughton's "Fat Head" (http://www.fathead-movie.com/) -- but he has an awesome collection of resources for getting started:  http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/

 

To the person who asked if it's okay to do this 90% of the time:  one of the things I like best about Primal eating is the "80/20 rule":  Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.  Do the best you can and you'll see an improvement.  If anyone in your family has some level of gluten sensitivity, though -- and about 15% of us do -- cutting gluten will produce the most dramatic results, so I'd start with that and then whittle down other grains and sugars.  I eased in by moving to "low-carb" wheat bread and limiting orange juice and sweet tea and coffee (I'd never thought I had a sweet tooth, but wow, was I taking in a lot of sugar in  liquid form!); once I cut wheat for real and made other starches and sugars a very occasional treat, my health improved dramatically. 

 

I've been Primal for a year and a half.  I lost 22 pounds (and I wasn't "overweight" by the charts, but I'd been moving up in jeans sizes); my skin improved; my irritable-bowel syndrome disappeared; a thirty-year fog of depression and fibromyalgia lifted.  I used to get sick several times a year, at a week or more per illness; in the past eighteen months I haven't at all (I'll feel low-energy for a day or two while the viruses go through my friends and family, and then it's over).  I can't recommend this way of eating highly enough; even my skeptical spouse has come around.

 

It is awfully tough to convert carb-focused kids, though, and we still haven't managed to get the whole family on board.  At least we're largely keeping them off the gluten. :)

 

post #60 of 446

Oh, and I forgot to add, about saturated fat:  fifty years of research have utterly failed to support the hypothesis that saturated fat contributes to heart disease, though somehow that doesn't seem to make any impression on the major medical associations, heart-research groups or government recommendations. :/

 

The best source of information on this is science journalist Gary Taubes's exhaustively documented work Good Calories, Bad Calories, but if you don't have the patience to get through it (I love it, but it's a dense read), here's an assortment of blog articles discussing the research:

 

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/saturated-fat-healthy/

http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2008/10/saturated-fat-and-risk-of-death-brief.html
http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2008/10/saturated-fat-and-health-brief.html

http://www.drbriffa.com/2010/01/15/two-major-studies-conclude-that-saturated-fat-does-not-cause-heart-disease/

 

 

Although some Paleo authors are still nervous about saturated fat, they shouldn't be:

 

http://www.gnolls.org/715/when-the-conclusions-dont-match-the-data-even-loren-cordain-whiffs-it-sometimes-because-saturated-fat-is-most-definitely-paleo/

 

 

Finally, if you're interested in some of the other common dietary myths (cholesterol bad? sugar harmless?), this is a decent summary:


http://dietheartpublishing.com/25-reasons-the-2010-dietary-guidelines-are-wrong

 

 

Happy reading!

 

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