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Primal family - Page 21post #402 of 4461/17/12 at 12:17pmQuote:Originally Posted by JayGee
Thanks for the symptom list for adrenal fatigue. I don't think that's my issue though, as the items I've highlighted are the only symptoms I experience. The weight around the middle is the way I'm built, and the dry skin I think is a factor of winter! I sleep like a rock and am definitely not a night owl. I have started supplementing with 5HTP, L-tyrosine, and L-glutamine per The Diet Cure/The Mood Cure books though and feel a million times better. Much less anxious and depressed, lots of energy, and have not felt the urge to binge on carbs in 3 days now!
That's wonderful. Feel depressed/anxious can also be adrenal related. If you are concerned at all or the supplements stop helping in a few weeks re-evaluate yourself. In the book there's an entire quiz about it that also has to do with the severity of the symptoms. Oftentimes if it's super mild then it will come up as only a couple of symptoms. To me, it seems like you're doing what you need to based on your research. Kudos to you! :-)post #403 of 4461/17/12 at 1:05pmpost #404 of 4461/17/12 at 5:30pm
Has anyone read "Primal Body, Primal Mind"? After l living a carb-loaded life for 30+ years, the info in that book is life-changing. Not to mention that I am western-med trained health professional and it pretty much blew away everything I've been taught and thought I knew. I feel like a smoker (I'm not!) in the fact that I now know, without a doubt, that my habits are ruining my health. Now is the hard part, making the change. I am starting the process, lots more veggies, quality meats, raw dairy products but I am losing my battle with sweets. Giving up bread, cereals, pasta has not been too hard but I LOVE and am addicted to cookies and Reese's peanut butter cups and have an unhealthy obsession with sneaking them, overindulging, etc. It's ridiculous and embarrassing and has to stop but I haven't found the strategy to make it work. Anyone who has known me since childhood and up has some significant association between me and sweets. I feel like I have a semi-unique psychological and physical addiction to sugar that is getting in my way. Just knowing that I can be healthier is not enough. Any ideas on how to tackle this psychological monster that's holding me back?? The good news, I have a super-supportive DH who is already primal/paleo and wants to help me.post #405 of 4461/18/12 at 6:35amQuote:
Out of curiosity...do you have alcoholics in your immediate family?
I am an alkie in recovery, and when I was getting sober, I read a LOT about the physiology of my disease, and I have never, ever, in 17 years of sobriety, yet met someone who says what you said, above, and didn't have alkies in their family. I ask a LOT.
If your answer is yes, I believe your sugar issue is alcoholism coming out sideways, if that makes any sense...I mean it's the "ism" and not the alcohol...it's...I believe sugar addiction and alcohol addiction are the same thing and they manifest in one way with some people, and the other way with other people. But far as I know, there have never been any studies of it.
I'm on this forum because I'm on my 4th round of the hCG protocol, and it has changed my life in profound ways, and my thinking, and how I react to foods, or, certain ones. I have become so carb-sensitive that I can not eat a TON of foods that I did before, without gaining back exponentially the weight I lost. I mostly eat meat and greens and eggs and butter and basically that's about it.
But one thing it has done for me...it has gotten my carb cravings nearly GONE. I kid you not. When I got sober, all I ever wanted was sweets, especially ice cream and chocolate, and I gained a ton of weight, and I thought I would never stop craving. And I am positive it's the same disease, the way I process alcohol or sugar in my body. I just transferred alcohol to sugar. I rationalized that I never got popped for "fat driving".
But now, for the first time, I have, for the most part, stopped craving, and I don't eat grains or sugars of any kind and I do pretty well with that. It's amazing.
Just thought I'd share, if it's any helpful.post #406 of 4461/18/12 at 8:16am
Maiasaura~ No studies that I know of either, but here's a book for you (if you didn't already know about it!):post #407 of 4461/18/12 at 11:06amQuote:
I also adore Reeses peanut butter cups...what the hell is in them?!
Similarly, knowing I can be healthier doesn't seem to be enough of a driver for me (although clearly we're not the only ones ot there wouldn't be any smokers/drug users/overweight people). One thing that has helped me is that every time I want to reach for something sweet/off-program I tell myself "Fat mamas have fat kids". I know that this isn't always the case, but statistically its far more likely. Reminding myself that its more than just for me does wonders. I want my kids to to be the healthiest and happiest they can be, and I can pass on the Reeses for them. What's helpful is that once I've had a few days away from sugar, the cravings really go away as well. Good luck!
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No alcoholics in my family except some cousins(?). My dad is a severe carb-addict as well, sweets are intertwined into every part of his life. Thank you all for your suggestions and support! I feel like at some point, I just need to quit, just like a smoker or alcoholic. I can't just do a little and get away with it, it really seems to be all or nothing for me to be successful although that makes it "easier" to fail as well. Always a work in progress! phewpost #409 of 4461/18/12 at 1:46pmQuote:Originally Posted by lovestolearn Maiasaura~ No studies that I know of either, but here's a book for you (if you didn't already know about it!):
I remember that book! Yep, I read it. A long time ago! And many of the other ones they recommend on that page. I had to add a comment, tooQuote:Originally Posted by wookumus No alcoholics in my family except some cousins(?). My dad is a severe carb-addict as well, sweets are intertwined into every part of his life. Thank you all for your suggestions and support! I feel like at some point, I just need to quit, just like a smoker or alcoholic. I can't just do a little and get away with it, it really seems to be all or nothing for me to be successful although that makes it "easier" to fail as well. Always a work in progress! phew
Hmm, I wonder if your dad has addicted siblings, then. But yeah, I believe totally about quitting like an addict.post #410 of 4461/22/12 at 3:44pm
Quote:Originally Posted by SandraMort
I'm looking for low budget produce options for this diet. In the past, I've relied heavily on grains and legumes, especially in the winter. Cabbage is pretty cheap, winter squash isn't too bad, carrots are okay in small amounts (don't like them much). Most fruit's expensive, too. What else is minimally processed or unpressed and can be used to fill out the diet?
Maybe frozen fruits and veggies?post #411 of 4461/23/12 at 6:02amYes frozen veggies are pretty cheap and I cannot afford organic veggies anymore. I try to eat veggie heavy, but also eat potatoes and sweet potatoes. Breakfast may be sauted frozen spinach with leftover ground beef. Lunch- sweet potatoes, steamed kale, and chicken thighs. Dinner- cod and potato soup (so ymmy), with a salad on the side. I always have to rotate since I have a very picky kid that wont eat the same thing two days in a row.post #412 of 4461/23/12 at 12:44pmQuote:Originally Posted by Koalamom
Yes frozen veggies are pretty cheap and I cannot afford organic veggies anymore. I try to eat veggie heavy, but also eat potatoes and sweet potatoes. Breakfast may be sauted frozen spinach with leftover ground beef. Lunch- sweet potatoes, steamed kale, and chicken thighs. Dinner- cod and potato soup (so ymmy), with a salad on the side. I always have to rotate since I have a very picky kid that wont eat the same thing two days in a row.
Can you post a recipe for the cod and potato soup? Thanks!post #413 of 4461/25/12 at 9:50am
I made some beef heart sausage for breakfast today and wanted to share the recipe. first, find the fattiest beef heart you can, ~ 2lbs (mine was 1.75lbs). Cut out the connective tissue inside the heart and cut into chunks. Grind in a food processor, I added about 3 Tablespoons of lard because I was afraid the meat was too lean. I also think I ground my meat to finely; it was like a paste and make a fragile patty.
After you've ground the meat put it into a bowl and add:
1 Tbsp honey
2 tsp dried sage
1 tsp black pepper (I used 1/2 for the kids)
1 tsp onion powder
1 tsp paprika
1/2 tsp fennel
1/4 tsp majoram
1/4 tsp ground red pepper
The original recipe has you let the sausage sit overnight in the fridge, but I cooked my immediately and it was plenty tasty. Make very thin patties so they cook through before the heart gets tough. I cooked mine in a bit of lard.
It was a success! Both my kids ate it, and they're kinda picky. BuggaBoo kept asking for seconds, so that's a good sign it tastes like store-bought sausage.post #414 of 4461/26/12 at 9:25ampost #415 of 4461/26/12 at 3:30pmpost #416 of 4461/27/12 at 10:41ampost #417 of 4461/30/12 at 6:51pm
I'm not really sure how perfectly primal this is... but I've been experimenting with coconut flour. I made some mini muffins and some pancakes, and oh.my.goodness! They were so good! Everyone loved them, and I enjoyed the fact that I didn't have that famous "low" that comes from eating carbs+sugar. I also liked that one or two was so very satisfying instead of feeling like I wanted to eat half the batch.post #418 of 4461/31/12 at 10:06amQuote:Originally Posted by gardenmommy
I'm not really sure how perfectly primal this is... but I've been experimenting with coconut flour. I made some mini muffins and some pancakes, and oh.my.goodness! They were so good! Everyone loved them, and I enjoyed the fact that I didn't have that famous "low" that comes from eating carbs+sugar. I also liked that one or two was so very satisfying instead of feeling like I wanted to eat half the batch.
Lucky you! I still feel like I want to eat half the batch. Even with coconut or almond flours Guess I'm just flour-sensitive.
post #419 of 4461/31/12 at 2:24pmpost #420 of 4462/4/12 at 1:26pmQuestion: how do you handle food for kids in social situations ie a sleepover at friends house, neighbor gave candy, etc.?
I have been reminding myself 80/20 is great (and dd's diet has been nearly 100% primal since we went gfcf a few weeks back andpredominantly tf before that) so if she has pizza or a piece of candy, it's not going to destroy her . . .
I just have this extra stress with it coz we havent yet figured out what caused her bad food reaction a while back, and we have been doing GAPS to heal her gut and hopefully resolve some of the ASD symptoms.
So I dont want to be crazy overcontrollng about what she eats or make her feel socially isolated (always the different one who doesnt get the goodies), but I am genuinely concerned about setting back her gut healing or having another food reaction.
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