Primal family - Page 5

[tinuvi]

I second the pureeing idea. I make "green soup" for myself every week or so in large quantities, then freeze and eat for breakfast daily, and sometimes lunch. :-) DD, 1 1/2, has gobbled it down with me before, but isn't currently going for it. If you add parsnips and/or carrots (I don't, because I'm dealing with candida) and make the soup thick, it becomes what I call "paleo porridge," and with some fats added after it's in the bowl (I'm lucky enough to be able to make raw butter sometimes), and some sea salt, it's just about the best thing ever, imho. It also helps to include a fair bit of "white" veggies in season: summer squash, cauliflower, etc. which gives it a smoother, sort of satiny texture. Also, one sweet bell pepper in the mix adds a really lovely taste dimension.

There's no way to tell there's stock in there, because it's just thick veggie puree. BTW, I'll use any kind of stock I have on hand - just throw some frozen cubes of it in the pot with the veggies - I've used duck stock (yum!), chicken, rabbit, whatever you got!

[Metasequoia]

Originally Posted by Deepfeet 

This is all very interesting to me!

Question (if this was answered previously, I missed it) -

Are primal families spending more money on groceries?

We eat fairly 'primal', but when we're scraping the bottom of the jar out comes a loaf of bread and the peanut butter (or something equally starchy and lifeless). 

I don't think we spend more. We buy a beef share every month and we join our CSA every season, so I really only need to buy veggies in the winter, but I ferment sooooooo much from the CSA during the summer that it gets us through the winter and then some. Also, if you have the space, make a garden!! Kale, collards, arugula, etc often last well into the fall/winter. Even better, if you can have chickens - get some!!
 

Originally Posted by tinuvi 

I second the pureeing idea. I make "green soup" for myself every week or so in large quantities, then freeze and eat for breakfast daily, and sometimes lunch. :-) DD, 1 1/2, has gobbled it down with me before, but isn't currently going for it. If you add parsnips and/or carrots (I don't, because I'm dealing with candida) and make the soup thick, it becomes what I call "paleo porridge," and with some fats added after it's in the bowl (I'm lucky enough to be able to make raw butter sometimes), and some sea salt, it's just about the best thing ever, imho. It also helps to include a fair bit of "white" veggies in season: summer squash, cauliflower, etc. which gives it a smoother, sort of satiny texture. Also, one sweet bell pepper in the mix adds a really lovely taste dimension.

There's no way to tell there's stock in there, because it's just thick veggie puree. BTW, I'll use any kind of stock I have on hand - just throw some frozen cubes of it in the pot with the veggies - I've used duck stock (yum!), chicken, rabbit, whatever you got!

My favorite part about it is that I can stuff SO much sea veggie in there!!

[sosurreal09]

So do you guys eat sausage? MDA said sausage is out but what if there is no nitrates and it is only pork and spices?

I saw the thing about ground beef being out too but really if it is ground beef from my CSA do you think it's that bad? I have to eat it b/c they won't let you request anything at our CSA...

[lovestolearn]

Anyways I have been stalking MDA and I noticed he always says "lean meat" I thought we were suppose to be eating more animal fats? I mean our ground beef is like 85% lean and everything else is pretty trimmed anyways (just b/c it comes like that) but I do go for dark meat chicken instead of breasts or something. Besides I thought more fat was good? Did I misinterpret something from the start?

Huh?  I always go for fatty meat--from clean sources, of course!

I don't know abou the lean meat part--unless you are looking at very early blog posts.  Mark is definitely. friends with saturated fats, so far as I know!  The only reason to get lean meat is if you can only afford conventionally raised meat & want to avoid the worst of the antibiotics/hormones, which tend to end up in the fat of the animals.

So do you guys eat sausage? MDA said sausage is out but what if there is no nitrates and it is only pork and spices?

For sure I eat natural sausage & nitrate-free bacon.  What are you reading?  It doesn't sound like the MDA I've read--but then, I lent my book to a friend before I finished reading it, lol!

[sosurreal09]

This was all from his site.

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/bad-meats/

Oh I did just find this though: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/lean-meat/ which is basically what you said, lean meat if it's conventional

[lovestolearn]

Hmmm, Interesting!  Never read either of these.

Both posts are from 2008 and I have noticed that he does change the information (in newer posts) he shares as he gets more up-to-date info. 

I think his fears about processed meat in the "5 Meats to avoid" post are really focused on conventionally-raised and processed meat--rather than sustainably-raised and minimally processed grass-finished/pastured meat.

[sosurreal09]

OIC so he had originally thought that but as long as it's natural and pastured it's OK?

Also wanted to say that if you do eat fully conventional meat MDA does say it's important for it to be lean b/c most of the bad stuff will be in the fat of the animal. (I just read that recently and thought I would mention it) and if you don't live in the US (maybe add a couple more countries IDK?) there is a good chance your meat is pastured anyway so you don't have to go searching for it.

[Metasequoia]

From the MDA link above:

We love bacon as much as the next guy or gal, but we definitely recommend going for the uncured variety. Nitrites are a sketchy lot. Included in everything from bacon to most lunch meat, sausages and hot dogs (are we really calling those a food still?), they act as preservatives and color enhancers.

I can get bacon, sausages & hotdogs directly from my farmer & they're nitrate/nitrite-free & sooo delicious. I know our local supermarket sells uncured lunch meat, but that doesn't mean it's free of listeria or GMOs (in the feed.)

We LOVE bacon, sausage, scrapple,ham, pork hot dogs, pork shoulder........

Ground meats, as we’ve said in the past, usually end up being a hodge-podge of flesh from hundreds of carcasses.

Not if you order a cow share directly from your local organic farmer. I'm not worried about E. coli in my 100% grass-fed beef.

[lovestolearn]

Originally Posted by Metasequoia 

Not if you order a cow share directly from your local organic farmer. I'm not worried about E. coli in my 100% grass-fed beef.

Me either!

[sosurreal09]

That's good to know! Our CSA is grass-fed so I have nothing to worry about!

DD and I went for a 4 mile hike (with her on my back in a didy wrap) and it was quite a workout for me! She loves every minute of BWing so she was happy as a clam looking at the birds and insects etc.

We stopped at DD's on the way and I got a cheese free breakfast sandwich and it happened again...(TMI) my body rejected the croissant I ate....Do you think I may have an actual gluten/wheat intolerance or do you think it's just b/c we went primal? Does that happen to you guys?

Also anyone that likes golumpkis will love this recipe I made the other day. I call it golumpki stir fry! (I make a lot so we can have leftovers too so my guess would be this recipe would be good for a family of 5)

1lb ground pork

1lb ground beef

1/2 or 1 small head of green cabbage

1/2 or 1 small head of red cabbage (or you could just do green)

1/2 of a large sweet onion

4 cloves of garlic

1 can of diced tomatoes with 1/2 the juice drained

marjoram to taste

salt to taste

pepper to taste

Basically all I did for prep was chop up the vegs

I used a SS wok and sauteed the onion until it was clear then added the garlic and the meat cooked that about 5 mins then added the spices and cabbage and tomatoes then cook it until it's all done! The family loved it and it was easier and quicker than making the real thing.

[lovestolearn]

We stopped at DD's on the way and I got a cheese free breakfast sandwich and it happened again...(TMI) my body rejected the croissant I ate....Do you think I may have an actual gluten/wheat intolerance or do you think it's just b/c we went primal? Does that happen to you guys?

When I first went Primal this happened to me every time I ate gluten.  After 4 months gluten-free, I can eat a very small amount (like a bite or 2) and be fine, but more will be rejected. 

I consider myself gluten-intolerant, though I am not a celiac.

I trust that my body knows best--and thse days I look at gluten grains as toxins, not as food!

[organicviolin]

so another question.  We eat very WAP bordering on primal.  We have no problems with loose stools (sorry tmi!) or other things like that.  Would this diet help with thyroid things?  I currently don't have thyroid things, but it's a familial tendency etc. and my thyroid is enlarged with  A couple nodules....

[Maiasaura]

Originally Posted by sosurreal09 

Also anyone that likes golumpkis will love this recipe I made the other day. I call it golumpki stir fry! (I make a lot so we can have leftovers too so my guess would be this recipe would be good for a family of 5)

1lb ground pork

1lb ground beef

1/2 or 1 small head of green cabbage

1/2 or 1 small head of red cabbage (or you could just do green)

1/2 of a large sweet onion

4 cloves of garlic

1 can of diced tomatoes with 1/2 the juice drained

marjoram to taste

salt to taste

pepper to taste

Basically all I did for prep was chop up the vegs

I used a SS wok and sauteed the onion until it was clear then added the garlic and the meat cooked that about 5 mins then added the spices and cabbage and tomatoes then cook it until it's all done! The family loved it and it was easier and quicker than making the real thing.

Subbing. OMG this looks WAY too yummy! Definitely copying this down!

I'm exploring what is "primal" and what is "paleo" because I have been on the hcg diet and have been staying away from starches and sugars of all sorts. I'm way addicted to those things but I've been doing alright without them-- the problem is that I haven't been exactly adhering to the protocol so I have gained back a lot of the weight I lost each time. This time I am doing my best to be absolutely strict with it!

Originally Posted by organicviolin 

so another question.  We eat very WAP bordering on primal.  We have no problems with loose stools (sorry tmi!) or other things like that.  Would this diet help with thyroid things?  I currently don't have thyroid things, but it's a familial tendency etc. and my thyroid is enlarged with  A couple nodules....

What is WAP?

[lovestolearn]

What is WAP?

WAP is the Weston A. Price Foundation.

Would this diet help with thyroid things?  I currently don't have thyroid things, but it's a familial tendency etc. and my thyroid is enlarged with  A couple nodules....

Possibly!  Read these:

http://thyroid.about.com/cs/latestresearch/a/celiac.htm

http://thehealthyskeptic.org/the-gluten-thyroid-connection

Even if you aren't celiac, eliminating gluten totally is a good idea, IMO.  Different researchers speculate that most of us are gluten-sensitive, if not gluten-intolerant or celiac.

[Koalamom]

Subbing to this thread but I am also following the other primal thread.

I had a great dinner tonight of:
salad all grown from the garden (lettuce, sweet peas, dandelion greens, basil minced, radishes, and a cucumber, and topped with dulse, red wine vinegar, and evoo)
chicken thighs (fried in pork fat and covered with cajun seasoning)
potatoe chunks fried in the chicken and pork fat after chicken was cooked
steamed broccoli covered with evoo and dulse
dh made some iced tea and lime to go with it. Is green tea or black tea primal?

Well actually this is a usual dinner for us. We eat really simple food. This feel so good and satisfying. I do not follow all of the primal way as I have allergies and cannot have eggs and dairy. So I do eat some beans well soaked and cooked and feel great with those.


Some projects planned are-
rendering grass fed beef fat as I have 20-30 lbs of the stuff in the freezer. The local farm gave it away for free. Yippiee!
raising rabbits for meat
keep on planting new rows in the garden. Beans are going in tomorrow to have a fall crop.
Add more chickens to our coop as the ones we have are slowing on laying and they will be dinner and need new ones to take their place.
planting more gooseberry bushes
build the rest of the primitive mandan/wikiup shelter
(sorry for messing with the theme of the thread about food, but when going primal, I am kind of going all the way and living off the land.)

[Koalamom]

Thinking of kids and eating primal- my 2 yr old ds is crazy about meat and only want that (and kale or broccoli) all day. His crowded teeth has spaced out nicely after cutting out most grain for him. Cool!

But then there is my dd, who loved meat but for the last few months she only wants potatoes and eggs, so I am just going with that and letting her decide.

[lovestolearn]

Is green tea or black tea primal?

Yes!

[sosurreal09]

Originally Posted by Koalamom 

Subbing to this thread but I am also following the other primal thread.

I had a great dinner tonight of:
salad all grown from the garden (lettuce, sweet peas, dandelion greens, basil minced, radishes, and a cucumber, and topped with dulse, red wine vinegar, and evoo)
chicken thighs (fried in pork fat and covered with cajun seasoning)
potatoe chunks fried in the chicken and pork fat after chicken was cooked
steamed broccoli covered with evoo and dulse
dh made some iced tea and lime to go with it. Is green tea or black tea primal?

Well actually this is a usual dinner for us. We eat really simple food. This feel so good and satisfying. I do not follow all of the primal way as I have allergies and cannot have eggs and dairy. So I do eat some beans well soaked and cooked and feel great with those.


Some projects planned are-
rendering grass fed beef fat as I have 20-30 lbs of the stuff in the freezer. The local farm gave it away for free. Yippiee!
raising rabbits for meat
keep on planting new rows in the garden. Beans are going in tomorrow to have a fall crop.
Add more chickens to our coop as the ones we have are slowing on laying and they will be dinner and need new ones to take their place.
planting more gooseberry bushes
build the rest of the primitive mandan/wikiup shelter
(sorry for messing with the theme of the thread about food, but when going primal, I am kind of going all the way and living off the land.)

I love that you aspire to be self sustaining with your food! We want to do that as much as possible but it's not an option where we are at the moment. I don't see how living off the land contradicts primal in the least! What will you be doing with the mandan? Is that going to be your primary housing or something?

[lookatreestar]

we have been doing good so far.

yesterday

breakfast - chicken soup/broth, with carrots and cabbage

snack - strawberries and cream

dinner - shrimp scampi

today

breakfast - egg and ham scramble

snack - strawberries and cream

dinner - chicken on the grill w/ veggies

i feel so good when i eat like this - i do need to go slow on the fats though or i feel sick.

does anyone have any more ideas for fruit/protein/fat pairs?

we usually do :

apples/ raw cheese

peaches/cream

strawberries/cream

we are late risers and the we love to snack so recipes our suggestions would be great!

[sosurreal09]

You could do apples or celery with almond butter

We use cultured coconut (coconut yogurt, taste more like pudding though) as dips or as a snack/desert it's got some good fat in it!