Dr. Gerald H. Smith, DDS (the guy who reversed cancer & heart disease through diet, etc)

[Metasequoia]

http://www.icnr.com/

What do you guys think of this guy? I'm posting here because I remember reading about him or hearing about him in WAPF circles - and I'm coming at this from a nutritional perspective.

I found him while looking for a dentist/orthodontist who does cranialsacral work and uses the ALF appliance rather than traditional braces because my 11 yr old Dd just got braces but I don't feel it's the best approach and I have a whole list of issues stemming from a bad bite as a result of extractions as a kid and braces. I didn't make the connection until I started reading his website & then a bell went off "I've heard of this guy!"

I noticed a couple of vegan links but I'm not sure that he recommends veganism or vegetarianism - could be he's just making suggestions for "healthier" veg diets.

Thanks for any thoughts!

[shanescan]

I have known Dr. G.H. Smith for over ten years.  He has been been dogged about finding a cure for his wife's ovarian cancer, but as far as I know, he has not yet succeeded.  In this way, his book is a bit misleading; since publication the cancer has returned several times.  I admire his efforts, yet sometimes wonder if he exaggerates a bit.  He does have proven success with pain management with his cranial sacral work.

[1love4ever]

Your thread title reminded me of this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvzDHGLEUyw&feature=watch-now-button&wide=1 

I dont know who the guy is that you mentioned tho, but I do recommend this video!  :)

[Snuggobug]

I have had a few appt's with Dr. Smith. I had to stop going because he is VERY expensive. $450 just to see him and $250 for additional appointments after that. Then he wants you to take a lot of supplements which will run you another $100 or so each time you go, until he determines that you are properly detoxed. This is all before he even addresses the actual dental or health issue you went for. I understand that nutrition is very important but this was just too much to pay on a monthly basis. If someone has all of this knowledge/experience then they should make it accessible to the average person. There was no way I could continue to afford seeing him. I did not get the feeling that he truly wanted to help me, there was a bit of a coldness to him. He uses kinesiology in diagnosing many issues. He seemed to know what he was doing.......he just charges a WHOLE lot for it and doesn't tell you what he's actually going to do for you or how much it will end up costing you before it's all said and done. 

[Metasequoia]

Snuggobug, I've been concerned about him pushing supps and me declining (which is what I'd have to do.) He gave us a full price for everything, and a treatment length. It's a ton of money, but honestly, less than I was anticipating. Dd has had her braces on her upper teeth for 6.5 months and I fired her orthodontist a couple of months back. I'm torn between throwing the $2500 down payment on my CC to see Dr. Smith and seeing another doctor just to have the braces removed and doing regular CST. Sigh.

[Metasequoia]

FINALLY have an update! Dd had her appt today after having her consult back in October. Dr. Smith took her top braces OFF (!!) and did mold. He'll send that off to Canada where the ALF will be made and then sent back. She'll go back in 3-4 weeks to get the ALF and some CST. We're also doing chiro, CST & myofascial release to compliment. I can't explain the relief I feel having those things off of her teeth!

[pearljelly]

I agree, if a doctor can help he should make the help available to the average person. It is shameful that he charges so much. I'm tired of hearing about how docs like him have been screwed by insurance, etc.  Suck it up Dr. Smith, we've all been screwed.  I do believe he is bitter because his wife has cancer and the cancer is stronger than her, or him. I do believe he is enraged by this, and it does feel as if he is taking it out on his patients, and whatever God has let him down. 

 I have done much research on him and have spoken with his secretary over the years, ....yes years! Because the initial fee was daunting and would have taken such a huge percentage of the money I've earned in my life that I had to seriously consider if I could afford rent or Dr. Smith!  I questioned was it worth it to feel that much better, and would I really?    There are so many types of therapy, psychological, physiological, physical...that I wondered maybe I could get through what my problem was, cheaper, by some kind of mind/body understanding within myself because at least I'd have a roof over my head to contemplate my pain, whereas therapy with Smith would have put me under, ...probably living under a bridge somewhere, with a straight jaw no less and even that wasn't guaranteed. 

However I do not have the kind of pain that I hear people have, nothing excruciating, nothing so far out of alignment that it kills me or puts me in a position to beg any doctor to help me, but I do believe he makes it miserable for people who have no choice, are in a lot of pain, and have not been helped by traditional docs. He's a last resort doctor who knows it and tortures people by not giving them a break. At all. 

Many years ago I made an appointment with Smith and then didn't show up. It was snowing and I wasn't able to get there with the weather problem, but he didn't care. He told his secretary not to schedule me anymore, he dumped me as a patient. His time was just worth too much, and sitting there waiting for me and me not showing pissed him off. How dare I?  That told me a lot about his arrogance and I have to laugh. When such doctors think they're God they should be put in their place. 

[Runningdeer]

Stay away from this guy, my personal experience was not good. 

For a (3) day service it was $3,500 and he wants the money when you walk thru the door.  Your so desperate to get better that you just hope that the doctor can put you on the right path.  So I saved my money and drove in from a near by state, stayed in a local hotel and went to see him.

The first day he did Kinesiology tests on me told me that my thyroid was not good and then tried to sell me $800 + dollars worth of supplements that I never heard of.  Then put a shim on one of my rear teeth and sent me back to the hotel.  I was in more pain the next day then the first, he couldn’t understand why so he did electrical stim on me during that time two other new patients came in and guess what, they too had thyroid issues and he tried to sell them supplements.  Total office visit about 3 hours.

The next day was no better, he adjusted the shim and did not stim, total office visit was about an hour.

The third day he set me up on a machine that I have no idea what it did but was suppose to heal me, now I know I just blow $3500 and the hotel money.  Total office visit 2 hours.

So for 6 hours it cost me $3,500 ……wow that’s $583 an hour, not bad.

These so called TMD specialist prey on people that are in such pain that we would go to a witch doctor if we new they could help.

Do the research on any doctor you go to, talk to former patients and get on sites like these and ask the questions.

Oh ya he drives a nice Porsche…..guess I just bought him new tires…..

[Runningdeer]

You think Smith is expensive, Dr Chan in Las Vegas is 20k to walk thru the door.  He works on you for 3 days and then you have to come back to him for adjustments + work with a Chiro.  All said in done over the course of say two years (if you lucky), 40k and that just his cost.  And guess what NO GUANUTEES, that's right NO GUANUTEES he makes you better.  How do these doctors get away this.  I would be nice if the evaluate you then give you an HONEST opionion if they can help and go from there.  NOPE they suck you in and make you pay up front.