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post #1 of 6
Thread Starter 

Hi,

 

Most of the time I love BFing, but lately my 3 week old has been driving me up the wall  banghead.gif.  He sometimes goes 4 hours without eating (he's asleep) and my breasts feel like they're going to explode.  One of them even turned hot and red and I wound up taking ibuprofin and using compresses, etc. to get it back to normal.  Other times he feeds twice in an hour, or just feeds continuously for hours at a time.  Adding to all this, at night his latch is just horrible (he's tired, I'm tired and don't feel like wrestling to get the latch our LC taught us was a good latch, and by the 7th time trying to latch I just give up and accept a bad latch), leaving me with cracked and bleeding nipples, making the 2 or 3 hours of feeding constantly just painful.  I've tried waking him up to feed, but he's so groggy he can't latch or just falls asleep at the breast after a couple of sucks.

 

Does anyone have any advice?  I'm at the end of my rope.  I want to have the beautiful nursing relationship all the books and classes describe, but that totally isn't happening.  I get really frustrated and angry by the end of the night.  I feel like a bad mom.  Plus I'm worried about what the hours and hours without feeding is going to do to my supply, and I get all freaked out that he's not getting enough milk and he's going to starve (unlikely... he's gaining weight like a champ and churning through diapers!  but I'm a little paranoid... he's my first).

 

Thanks,

Anka

post #2 of 6

Hang in there, Mama, it gets easier!  The first few weeks with a newborn are just hard, no matter how you look at it. 

 

It's normal for your supply and your baby's needs to not be completely in sinc at first.  During the first 5 weeks of breastfeeding, your body is establishing supply.  Your milk-making cells are all turned on, and responding to your new breastfeeding hormones.  Over the next few weeks, your body and your baby will get more into sinc and you should have less leaking, less engorgement, less discomfort.  In the meantime, if you start to feel your breasts getting full and uncomfortable, it's fine to express milk to comfort, either with a pump or by hand.  You're not trying to empty your breasts fully (which will signal your body to make more milk, it doesn't sound like you need that), but just relieving the fullness so you feel comfortable and don't get plugged ducts/mastitis.  Good call, by the way, using compresses and ibuprofen right away when you started noticing early signs of mastitis.

 

It sounds like he's gaining weight well (by 3 weeks, should be close to 1/2# over birthweight, if not more).  Sore, cracked nipples, as you probably already know, aren't normal.  Is it only when you nurse lying down that he has latch issues?  Cracks open a route for bacteria to enter your breasts & make mastitis more likely.  That's also a sign that he's not transferring milk well, which can impact supply & make him want to nurse a lot more. Does your IBCLC make house-calls?  It might be helpful to have her come to your house and help with side-lying positioning.  You might also try looking at some videos of reclining positions and see if they might work better for your.  A good place to start is biological nursing (also callled laid-back breastfeeding): http://www.biologicalnurturing.com/index.html.  Some moms do find, though, that until baby has better head control, side-lying is just tough.  It might be easier on your body to keep a big stack of pillows by the bed and sit up with lots of pillow support for night nursing. 

 

It also sounds like he might have his days and nights mixed up, which is also pretty normal!  Remember when you were pregnant, and you'd feel tons of movement when you were still, but not so much when you were up and moving?  Most babies are born sleeping more during the day when mom was active, and less at night when mom was still.  You can encourage him to shift his sleep time by making day and night as different as possible - keep lights off as much as possible at night, soft voices, as little stimulation as possible for night; lots of light and activity and movement during the day.  He'll adjust!

 

Sleep deprivation and sore nipples will make anyone frustrated and angry!  It's okay to feel overwhelmed and unhappy; we all do sometimes.  That's a sign that you need a break, even if it's only sitting with your feet up and a cup of tea while he takes his morning nap, or letting your partner take him for an early morning walk while you get an extra 20 minutes sleep (if that's an option).  It's so important to find some way to nurture yourself, but it's hard!

post #3 of 6
Thread Starter 


Thanks for the advice and encouragement!  I expressed some milk last night when I started to feel full, and it helped a lot... I think his latch was better too when my breasts weren't hard as rocks.  Is that possible or do you think I'm imagining it? 

 

The latch thing is a nighttime thing.  I figure it's because he doesn't wake up all the way -- he gets really fussy and roots around, but his eyes are closed and he sometimes totally misses his aim... a couple of nights ago he wound up latched on my areola but not my nipple!  We initially tried side-lying, but you're right he just can't do that yet.  I figure I'll try again in a couple weeks.  Meanwhile we've tried sitting up in bed, changing the diaper then sitting up in bed (changing the diaper wakes him up... but he doses off as he's feeding then falls off and has the same issues as usual when he's trying to latch back on), and even going out to the living room and sitting in the nursing chair with all the lights on just like during the day.  He does best with this last one, so for the last couple of days I've been doing that and my nipples are starting to heal.  I'll try the biological approach tonight -- I would love to be able to lie down (or at least not get out of bed) while he's eating.
 

Our IBCLC doesn't really make house calls, but she's based at a birth center so we had a chance at our visit to go down to one of the birth rooms which had a bed available and latch in various positions.  The thing is, she's seeing him (and me) in daytime mode when he usually doesn't have too many problems.  I think I'll make another appointment with her next week if things aren't getting better... she's awesome.

 

I'll see what I can do about getting a nap.  At the very least DH has the weekend off, so I'll get a break then. 

 

Thanks again for the encouragement!

 

Anka

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Hang in there, Mama, it gets easier!  The first few weeks with a newborn are just hard, no matter how you look at it. 

 

It's normal for your supply and your baby's needs to not be completely in sinc at first.  During the first 5 weeks of breastfeeding, your body is establishing supply.  Your milk-making cells are all turned on, and responding to your new breastfeeding hormones.  Over the next few weeks, your body and your baby will get more into sinc and you should have less leaking, less engorgement, less discomfort.  In the meantime, if you start to feel your breasts getting full and uncomfortable, it's fine to express milk to comfort, either with a pump or by hand.  You're not trying to empty your breasts fully (which will signal your body to make more milk, it doesn't sound like you need that), but just relieving the fullness so you feel comfortable and don't get plugged ducts/mastitis.  Good call, by the way, using compresses and ibuprofen right away when you started noticing early signs of mastitis.

 

It sounds like he's gaining weight well (by 3 weeks, should be close to 1/2# over birthweight, if not more).  Sore, cracked nipples, as you probably already know, aren't normal.  Is it only when you nurse lying down that he has latch issues?  Cracks open a route for bacteria to enter your breasts & make mastitis more likely.  That's also a sign that he's not transferring milk well, which can impact supply & make him want to nurse a lot more. Does your IBCLC make house-calls?  It might be helpful to have her come to your house and help with side-lying positioning.  You might also try looking at some videos of reclining positions and see if they might work better for your.  A good place to start is biological nursing (also callled laid-back breastfeeding): http://www.biologicalnurturing.com/index.html.  Some moms do find, though, that until baby has better head control, side-lying is just tough.  It might be easier on your body to keep a big stack of pillows by the bed and sit up with lots of pillow support for night nursing. 

 

It also sounds like he might have his days and nights mixed up, which is also pretty normal!  Remember when you were pregnant, and you'd feel tons of movement when you were still, but not so much when you were up and moving?  Most babies are born sleeping more during the day when mom was active, and less at night when mom was still.  You can encourage him to shift his sleep time by making day and night as different as possible - keep lights off as much as possible at night, soft voices, as little stimulation as possible for night; lots of light and activity and movement during the day.  He'll adjust!

 

Sleep deprivation and sore nipples will make anyone frustrated and angry!  It's okay to feel overwhelmed and unhappy; we all do sometimes.  That's a sign that you need a break, even if it's only sitting with your feet up and a cup of tea while he takes his morning nap, or letting your partner take him for an early morning walk while you get an extra 20 minutes sleep (if that's an option).  It's so important to find some way to nurture yourself, but it's hard!



 

post #4 of 6

No, you're not imagining it.  Engorgement makes it hard for baby to latch, so expressing enough to soften your breast can definitely help prevent some nipple trauma.

 

The whole nighttime nursing thing is hard, isn't it?  It does get better, I promise.   I remember when my twins were babies, I used to watch a DVD movie during night nursing sessions (we had to completely get up, too, at first).  It seemed like such a victory when it took me two nights to get through a movie ;-) 

 

Glad to hear you're healing.  At least injured nipples heal quickly once they stop getting re-injured.  You might try breast compression (Jack Newman has a good description: http://www.breastfeedingonline.com/newman.shtml, scroll down - it's alphabetical - and you'll find links to a written description & videos; his other videos of good latch are also excellent resources).  That can help sleepy babies to stay awake and actively nursing & might help w/ the nighttime issues. 

 

Take care!  At least it goes fast.  Doesn't his birth already seem like such a LONG time ago?

post #5 of 6
Thread Starter 

Hi,

 

I started this thread when DS was only 3 weeks old and I was totally desperate.  It's now a couple of months later, and I wanted to say that things are going so much better.  His latch got better, my nipples healed, and I stopped dreading every nursing session.  And then he started looking me in the eyes and smiling, usually losing his latch and getting milk everywhere in the process... it melts my heart to think back on those moments.  Now he does this wonderful thing where he'll unlatch, look up at me, and smile, then just sit there at breast looking so completely relaed and content.  I've got this beautiful nursing relationship, and I am so glad I stuck it out and got the support I needed.  I wouldn't trade it for the world.

 

For all you mamas who are at the end of your rope, hang in there.  It's totally worth it.

 

Best,

Anka

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