Use of vaccine decreased deaths 97% (Chicken Pox)

[LisaSedai]

So it's been reported here  http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2011/07/21/peds.2010-3385.full.pdf that since we started the chicken pox vaccine program that deaths from chicken pox have decreased from an average of 104 per year to 14 per year (1997)

What do you think? Does this make you reconsider giving the chicken pox vaccine? It sounds great but I would like to know what the increase in shingles cases was for the same period and how many adverse reactions to the vaccine there were.

I still dislike the vaccine because of the use of the fetal cells but I seem to remember reading somewhere there is a chicken pox vaccine that didn't use them- was in another country though.

[emmy526]

It makes me think i am still glad my kids were not poisoned with that toxic cocktail because to me, its obviously still in the trial stages of efficacy. They still don't know how this vaccine is going to affect the population in 15yrs or the outcome of the shingles explosion.  It also appears to me the cases of shingles are on the rise since  the intro of the CP vax. Esp in the elderly.  

And lets remember this vaccine was mainly introduced so parents wouldn't have to miss time from work to care for a sick child.. that was the campaign slogan in the 90"s...pharmas standpoint was to prevent the 100deaths CP caused.. but they didnt' tell you that the 100 kids who died had cancer or some other terminal illness..that was the other reason for the CP vax..and the other reason is money to be made off of it, and they are continuing to make off of it and the shingles vax now too. 

Pharma's motto:  

Hey, lets cause disease in a population, then create a vaccine against the disease we are creating...

[SilverMoon010]

No way, no how.

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Originally Posted by LisaSedai 

Does this make you reconsider giving the chicken pox vaccine?

[Bokonon]

Originally Posted by LisaSedai 

So it's been reported here  http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2011/07/21/peds.2010-3385.full.pdf that since we started the chicken pox vaccine program that deaths from chicken pox have decreased from an average of 104 per year to 14 per year (1997)

I've said it before, and I'll say it again - if correlation does not equal causation in vaccine reactions, then why should we accept that the deaths decreased because of the vaccine?

And no, it doesn't make a difference to me.  I'd much rather my children get wild chicken pox and become naturally immune than take the as-yet unknown risks of yet another vaccine.

[Celticqueen]

For people like me (25) who have never had the chicken pox, I am incredibly grateful that there is a vaccine for it and I'll be getting one after this baby is born. I'd rather receive the toxins than risk my life getting this virus so late in life, especially with my history of other health problems. However, this doesn't mean I'm happy about the crap that they put in it. In my case though, I don't really see another option. I'm so weak- if I were to catch it, it could be devastating. If only there were another way! I've lectured my mom for this countless times too- "why did you purposefully prevent me from catching it?" etc and she just didn't want to deal with the inconvenience, apparently. Now at mid-twenties, I'm really paranoid. Great article

[nia82]

Celtic, don't count on it working. I too never had CP as a child. I received two doses of the vaccine, was tested for titers and had none. So I received two more doses (2 should do the trick in adults, or so they say) and I still have no titers and was labeled a vaccine-failure. That was 1 year before having kids... So I do not put any faith into this particular shot, and I also didn't know that fetal cells were used for culturing back then, that would have grossed me out. I will not be getting this for my kids and try really hard to find natural exposure in the kindergarten years.

[ammiga]

Originally Posted by Celticqueen 

For people like me (25) who have never had the chicken pox, I am incredibly grateful that there is a vaccine for it and I'll be getting one after this baby is born. I'd rather receive the toxins than risk my life getting this virus so late in life, especially with my history of other health problems. However, this doesn't mean I'm happy about the crap that they put in it. In my case though, I don't really see another option. I'm so weak- if I were to catch it, it could be devastating. If only there were another way! I've lectured my mom for this countless times too- "why did you purposefully prevent me from catching it?" etc and she just didn't want to deal with the inconvenience, apparently. Now at mid-twenties, I'm really paranoid. Great article

You might want to get your titers checked before getting the vax. My daughter has been exposed to CP a couple of times and never showed signs of developing pox. Her Dr said she might have developed assymptomatic immunity.

[BeckyBird]

Also Celticqueen, please don't be so hard on your mother. She was probably trying to do her best to keep you healthy, that's all. She didn't want to see you suffering, and tried to protect you because she loved you.

[emmy526]

Originally Posted by Celticqueen 

For people like me (25) who have never had the chicken pox, I am incredibly grateful that there is a vaccine for it and I'll be getting one after this baby is born.

How do you know you wont have a reaction to the toxins in the vaccine? or that you won't have vaccine failure? If your system is that weak,  do you think this vax is going to make it stronger?  Suppose  you transmit the virus to your baby after you vax yourself, but show no symptoms yourself of CP? that's something to consider too.