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SKJ - Sure!! I couldn't figure out how people get the chart button. Good to hear that I still have a chance for CH. Yesterday I threw away that high temp and got them. But today even with the discarded temp they were taken away. But with the +OPK I'm pretty sure I did O. Only 10 more days to obsess over it!! :)
Hi! I am 12 DPO today and I gave in and took a test this morning and I got a negative. not surprising this early, but my temp went more, so it was wishful thinking. I just have one more test so I am going to hold off testing again until next Wedenesday, which is the day FF suggests. I am sort of mad at myself for wasting a test, I know better!Â
Checking in here. CD 34 and still nothing. Well, except tons of nausea, headaches and cramps? I had one day of EWCM but no +opk.
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Anyone wanna try to make heads or tails (is that the saying?) out of this crazy chart? I started bleeding from my miscarriage on July 3rd, so keep that in mind.
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[url=http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2767fc/]My Ovulation Chart[/url]
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texasfarmom---I have some Q's about B6 as well. Hope you get some answers. :)
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I've been taking 100mg of B6 for about two months and have not seen any difference in my 8-day luteal phase.  I have been taking vitamin D3, Rhodiola and DHEA (for 5mos) also for the luteal phase. Ugh. PPAF came but I'm wondering how long I'll have these short LH phases! I take progesterone from O until AF, maybe it's not enough?
Ava's Mama, I would love to be a testing buddy! And... I'm finding it so ironic that we both tested this morning! I really wanted to know if I had a bfp, before our fertility doc appointment, but all I got was a stinking bfn. Oh, how disappointing that was! I was totally deflated and the only thing that kept me from getting really despondent was that it was 4 am and our little guy was nestled in our bed between us and I had to lay there quietly so he would fall back asleep. Luckily, I did soon after, too... Aggh, that's why I don't think it is in my best interest to test early, I don't like that feeling! Anyway, sorry you got a bfn too... there's still hope for us though. I've been reading more and more that it can take longer-- which is good to know, because on this forum it seems like a great number of women can test early and get a bfp, and I kind of forget that even our fertility clinic advises the HPT to be done 17 or 18 days past. Oh, I was going to mention, I think I may be 12 dpo and not 13 like I originally thought, based on going back and re-thinking my chart. It's a little bit hard to know, because I didn't temp this cycle, just did the OPK and monitored CF and secondary fertility signs. So we may be exactly in the same spot in our cycle! So, you are going to wait until Wednesday? I think I will go ahead and test on Monday, if AF continues to stay away... today my doc said I should go on progesterone cream if I am pregnant, so I would want to get that sooner rather than later... and she said I should know something by Monday. I was going to ask, what brand of HPT did you use? I used FRER, thinking that since it *can* be accurate up to 5 days before a missed period, it should have a pretty good sensitivity-- but maybe for some of us we just don't have enough hcg in our system yet? I sure hope we get bfps!Â
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SKJ, yay for + OPKs!!! Hopefully you will be 'busy' over the next while and you catch that egg!
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Carmen, thanks for the encouragement. I hope you are doing much better, and that this cycle works out for you with the donor and all.Â
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Well, I must go to bed. My little guy has been sleeping for the last couple of hours and that is what I should be doing, too! Good night, everyone!
TenzinsMama & AvasMama--thanks for posting your updates, I'm hoping for BFPs for you both. :)
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Ibreed--Welcome to MDC. :)Â I'm sorry for your loss.Â
IMO, your chart looks like your body is gearing up to O again. Hope you see O soon!
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AFM--I think I may have O'd yesterday but not sure. Would anyone like to take a guess and view my chart? http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/32af8fÂ
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Yesterday the OPK was dark but not "dark enough" to be (+), so I charted it as (-). My temps have been a little wacky, I think due to coming back from vacation and charting between 5-6:30 some AMs vs. at 5am every morning. I'm not sure whether to start the progesterone yet....
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Ava's Mama, how long is your luteal phase normally? Are you having any signs that are looking promising? I won't have to worry about testing until Monday, we are out visiting my parents and I didn't bring my remaining HPT... so unless we drive in to town (they are on an acreage in the country)... but I'm kind of frugal (ha ha) and I don't want to be buying more and wasting them. I haven't been able to sleep well these last couple of nights, because I keep thinking of maybe being pregnant. It's been a roller coaster of days, because I've noticed things happening body-wise but I don't know if I'm wanting to be pregnant so badly and I'm making them up in my head somewhow, or, they are really happening but if I share it out loud with my DH I somehow think that I may jinx myself... oh this is so crazy-making! I do tell DH, and he in fact said that he has noticed something that he found happening with my other two conceptions (one ended in m/c at 6 weeks, the other my DS). So... I think the worst thing is going to the bathroom and checking the TP, with the fear that I'm going to see something. I did have a couple of specks of spotting, very tiny, on two occasions yesterday afternoon, and thought that AF was coming, but so far nothing else. Â
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sraplayas, sounds like you should be getting a + very soon-- do you test once or twice a day?Â
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ibreed, yes, a big welcome to you! Hopefully your stay on here is short. I'm really sorry to hear of your recent loss. This is a great place to get support and encouragement during this roller coaster of ttc'ing.
Ava's mama - your chart looks great! Â I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you.
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Tenzins -Â Â Also crossing my fingers for you! Â Hope you get a BFP on Monday. Â I had implantation spotting for 6 days with my DD. Â Maybe that's what's going on?
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sraplayas - sounds like it's time to 
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AFM - holy temp rise batman!  I hope it means that I O'ed yesterday.  Although, I was up at 230 and 330 and didn't temp until 640 (vs. my usual 430 time).  I'm still hoping that even with the disturbances there was a rise.  I mean, it couldn't go that high without some of it being a true temp shift, right?  Since we BD'ed last night, it's hard to tell if I still have EWCM or not.  My cervix is definitely low though.  Guess tomorrow will be more telling. Â
SKJ, do you remember what days of your cycle you had the 6 days of spotting? Were these consecutive days, or was it on and off? How much did you have?Â
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I'm trying to stay positive. I've only had trace amounts yesterday afternoon and today. No flow. It seems really light pink/streaky. I don't even have to wear a pantiliner, really, because there is so little, and it's so light it isn't going to stain my cotton undies anyway-- it's also 25 degrees celsius and I feel so hot and I don't want to feel all sweaty down there from it, that's another reason... I am even wearing white ones, to make it easier to see what's going on, no less! (sorry tmi). I think it is safe to say that I'm 'freaking out' inside my head, but I'm keeping a lid on it and trying to be rational. Bah!!!!
 Tenzins - Here is my chart from that pregnancy
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These are the notes that I took related to the spotting:
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First day of spotting (7 DPO) nothing noted
8 DPO: "Had bright red blood when i woke up. Â No clots but saw specks in the toliet. Â is it game over? been red and pink all day. Â When checking cm, it's bloody. Â when wiping, usually pink."
9 DPO: "woke up with barely any spotting. Â checked cervix internally and saw blood. Â next time to the bathroom, red blood when i wiped. Spotting a little more. Â Still red blood when I wipe. now wiping is light pink. Â Internal check = blood. Â Now at 3:22, spotting seems to be over...Had BM and it came back bright red. Â Now seems to be over again..."
10 DPO:" very light pink spotting. Bright red after bm and when checking cervix. Â big chunks of bloody cm and more pink. Â Heavier now. Â I think it's a miscarriage :( Started using natural progesterone cream. Â Not sure if this a good or bad idea. Â We'll see." BFN
11 DPO: "So far only light pink:
12 DPO: "very, very light spotting. Â almost completely gone. Â two blobs of brownish cm." First BFP
13 DPO: "no more spotting! Â Clumps of white cm in toilet. Â Very light and infrequent cramps."
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I had my hCG and progesterone checked on 12 and 14 DPO and the levels were good. Â I have no idea what caused the spotting, but I did use the NPC until I was told by my midwife that it probably wasn't doing anything and my progesterone levels seemed fine. Â I'm guessing that was around 14DPO or so. Â I only had 2 other days of light spotting around 8 weeks. Â My pregnancy was totally uneventful.
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Good luck! Â I hope this helps. Â I've read many, many stories of women who have bleeding during pregnancy that goes unexplained but does nothing to the pregnancy. Â I really, really, really hope this is what is going on for you.
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Please keep us posted.
SKJ, you wouldn't believe how helpful it is, for you to share that information! Some of the descriptions sound just like what I have noticed-- for example, noticing specks in the toilet, and the part about the BM aggravating the situation (probably because the mechanism in having the BM causes us to bear down, and more blood is expelled at one time as opposed to it slowly making its way down and out, heh?). Most of what I have had is the light pink when I wipe or when it ends up on my undies. Now, as it approaches the end of the day, I haven't noticed anything. I feel so much better, because seeing what happened in your case, I know that if it sticks around a little longer I won't necessarily think it's game over. I only have to wait one more morning, and then I'm going to test. When I got a bfp for my DS, I had tested 17dpo and got a really solid second line, so while this is a bit earlier than that, I'm hoping to get something that is evidence of a bfp. Thanks again!!
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Well, it would appear to me that I'm out, because this morning the spotting progressed from light to darker, and increased in the amount. So I've had to begin using a pad. It just seems like way too much happening now, and so... Welcome AF, thanks a lot for showing up after all. Nice trick you played on me, showing up for 1.5 days as barely-there spotting which made me think I was going to be one of those women who had some spotting during early pregnancy. I would have gladly taken that with all the worry around it, over a stinkin' torrent of flow and another cycle with a bfn! Well, at least I don't have to keep freaking about the spotting. Funny how being almost 42 and having had a past m/c can make me freak out about spotting it so easily... it's the first time I was ever being descriptive of things in posts on here ("TMI!"), but gosh, was I worried.  BAH!  I was so hopeful, afterhaving 8-10 day LPs, making it to 14 dpo, and then it's so disappointing when this happens. I didn't temp this month, so I could take a break from the mental/emotional toll this ttc'ing takes after awhile... in future maybe in addition to that  I should just adopt the thinking that it isn't the month for me, so then when AF comes it's not so hard to deal with.  I'm doing okay, though... I'm thinking that at least my DS gets that many more weeks of nursing compared to if I was pregnant and it likely drying up around the beginning of the second trimester. Maybe if I were to get a bfp down the road, he will have come along further down the child-led weaning path, and it will be easier on both of us. I don't know, it's hard...My mom just said to me this morning, upon learning that it wasn't the month for a bfp, that I should maybe just forget about trying, and just concentrate on my little guy. Well, that didn't make me feel better-- It isn't like the ttc'ing takes away anything from my DS, if anything I think about him having a sibling to grow up with... and, how can I just 'forget' about it each month? Even if I don't temp, I still have a heightened awareness of my fertility signs (my body is really good at showing me those things), and I need to be thinking about it because I don't want to do anything that could harm a baby if I did conceive, like take any meds, drink alcohol, etc. Having fertility issues sucks. Plain and simple.
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SKJ, I noticed that you had some light spotting interspersed with heavier, to the point that you thought it was a m/c.  It must have been quite a lot for you to think that. Scary time! But yeah, I just don't think this will stop for me, it seems to be just like my AF when it gets going. Â
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Ava'sMama, how are you? I hope you have some better news!
Hi, I am still around! I think I am 13 DPO and I am going to try to hold off until Wednesday or Thursday to test. Honestly I don't know what my LP usually is. Last month it was 12 days, but that was the first "cycle" post miscarraige. I only started temping in March and I got pregnant that month, so those are the only months I have to go off of! My cycles are typically 27-29 days and I am on CD 26. I have no symptoms of AF and creamy CF and high temps. I have slept awful the past few nights because I am so hot. Yesterday we went to a wedding and I had a lot of "pulling" in my abdomen, but probsbly too early for stuff to start stretching! Here is my chart again, I will keep you posted! But I am pretty much going crazy. Thankfully I only have one test, otherwise I would have POAS again today! Sorry your AF arrived TenzinsMama!Â
Tenzins - So sorry AF showed up. Â I was so hopeful for you. Â This whole TTC thing is so stressful and full of disappointment along the way. Â 
 I hope this next cycle is the one for you.  I have a feeling this isn't my cycle for a BFP either.  I hope I'm wrong, but I just don't feel like it will be the one
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Ava's Mama - Your chart looks great! Â I hope you get a BFP when you test. Â 
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AFM, my DD woke up again at 330 last night.  It's very unusual for her to wake up then.  So, I temped when she woke (97.18) and then again when I woke up naturally at 7am (97.58).  My usual time to temp is 430.  Either way, this temp was above my last 6 temps, so I'm fairly certain I O'ed.  If tomorrow's temp is up, I expect FF to give me CH.  Like I said, I am not feeling like this is my month.  Hopefully that will make the 2WW easier 
Hello ladies!
I got a + opk on friday (cd 15) and saturday (cd 16), so it's been a busy weekend ;)Â can you please move me to the tww.
I had a 28 day cycle last month, so I'm hoping this means my lp is at least 11 or 12 days. I've had 4 early losses, not sure if a short lp is to blame, so I'm feeling hopeful this month!
Just to clarify, ovulation typically occurs 36 hours after the LH surge is first detected right? I got the 1st pos on Friday around 1pm, took another test Saturday around 1pm and it was even darker than Fridays (WAY darker than the control line). I havent been tempting because dd wakes up to nurse pretty much hourly from midnight to 7 am...Â
Im starting back up with accupuncture tomorrow, so it may be too late to help (if I need help...) with this cycle. I had weekly appointments before and throughout my pregnancy with dd. I seem to get preg pretty easily, but they dont stick around. Got preg with dd on the first try after doing a few months of accupuncture.. Anyways, feel like Im rambling a little.. lol.
Good luck to you all :)
