All of these long LPs are cruel!
I'm just waiting around to O. I'm hoping it comes in the 20s again this cycle, so it should be in the next two weeks (CD 16 now). This is the worst part of TTC for me.
Hi..CD 14 C27 here and feeling little crazy! My temp dropped a bit this morning, but still well about the coverline. I guess tomorrow's temp will be the true test. But still trying to hold out until Wedneday/Thursday to test...but it is always on my mind! [url=http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/32d812/]My Ovulation Chart[/url]
SKJ - Thanks for sharing your spotting story. It makes me feel more hopefull since I already had some spotting 2DPO. No spotting on Friday, a tiny tiny amount of pink on Saturday, and no spotting on Sunday. My acupuncturist says it's slim, but there is still hope for me this month.
My son spent the weekend at his grandparents so I'm hoping that helps. He also skipped his AM nursing session twice last week. I'm halfway through the 2WW, just one more week to go :)
zoe - good luck! I hope the next week flies by and ends with a BFP!
I have a question for you ladies. How was your CF been while nursing? Since I've been charting for the last two months, I'm thoroughly confused about my CF. It seems like I always have a lot of it. This is not usual for me. Also, almost all of it has some stretch to it. I think I've been putting EWCM in my chart when it hasn't been. For example, I'm 3DPO today and had some CF hanging down yesterday. When I felt it, it was pretty creamy, but I found it odd that I had so much and that it was so stretchy. Just now, I had more, and when I felt it, it was more on the sticky side, but it also stretched and looked like EWCM. I'm guessing that I need to pay more attention to the feel as opposed to look and quantity.
Just wondering what others have experienced.
So I had my first accupuncture appointment today, felt nice being back there, reminded me of getting / being pregnant with dd :)
The dr would like me to wean (out of the question, dd, 23 months, only started eating solids 4 months ago, and she's super attached to it). I've been trying to reduce her nighttime nursing, she still wakes up almost hourly, but last night she did do a 4 hour stretch, which in this house, is totally unheard of.
The dr said I "have to stop" as soon as I find out Im preg... I know I wont be able to, and I dont want to put dd through that. I dont think nursing will interfere with implantation, but I guess she's concerned due to my past history of 4 early losses..
Hi, my temp dropped again this morning to the coverline. Still no AF, but I am guessing it will probably drop again tomorrow. I should have just listened to FF suggested test date (Thursday) to begin with instead of wasting two tests! Who knows, maybe the temp will go back up, but I am not feeling overly optimistic. So much for being super fertile post-miscarriage! Sorry, to be a downer! [url=http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/32d812/]My Ovulation Chart[/url]
Carolyn - my acupuncturist told me to wean also. I didn't :) What is her reasoning for you needing to wean once you are pregnant? I would think if you can get pregnant, then the nursing shouldn't have any effect on the pregnancy.
Ava's Mama - sorry about the temp dip :(
AFM - No spotting yet this week (knock on wood). I have an acupuncture appoint on Friday, she said she will do the implantation treatment. I'll be 11DPO so should be good timing.
Carolyn - have you read about pregnancy while nursing on Kellymom.com? Like what zoe said, I think that if implantation is successful, nursing should no longer impact the pregnancy.
zoe - Your chart looks really good! I hope that the spotting stays away for you and this is your month.
Ava's mama - sorry about the temp dip. On a positive note, your LP looks really good!
AFM I'm 4 DPO. My DD has been waking up in the middle of the night, sometimes more than once. She was STTN/waking up at 530, so I'm a little bummed by that lack of sleep and the inconsistent temps. I'm just glad it happened after O so that I could at least see a temp shift. I'm trying my best to live in the moment and not get my hopes up this month. My hope for this month is for my LP to increase from last month (7 days). I have my annual with my midwife on Monday, which will be 9 DPO. I'm hoping that AF doesn't arrive before then.
carolyn, SKJ is right, there are lots of women who continue to nurse while pregnant. I've been falling a number of blogs of women who are doing just that, and if you contact your local La Leche League, they will provide lots of info about it. My fertility doc has even given the okay to stay nursing while trying to get pregnant. But my acupuncturist thinks it would be better to cut way down (she didn't say wean completely, though), especially given that my son doesn't STTN-- he wakes up 2-3 to comfort nurse. So she thinks that my own lack of sleeping through the night is hard on me, and maybe my body won't be open to conceiving as easily in this tired state I am often in. However, when I start to really think about it, I conceived my son after the stress of a m/c 3 months before that, having quit my long-term job, and being in a masters program-- I was tired and stressed right out during that period, and everything was fine.
SKJ, when is your daughter's birthday-- I can't be sure of the order of the numbers in the date on your siggy... just wondering how close she is in age to my DS.
Ava'sMama, sorry to see that temp dip. Let us know how it goes... Here's hoping it's just some weird thing happening and you can still get a bfp!
AFM, I've only had 1.5 days of AF-- since yesterday afternoon, I've had nothing, it's gone back to the scant light pink spotting. Could literally be just the ebb and flow of things... What's up with that... I'm going to say it's just that though, and it will come back in full force a little later this morning-- I can't let myself think otherwise, I'm already so deflated. I can't remember if I mentioned it before or not, but we saw our fertility doc last Friday, and so now I'm going in for Day 3 blood testing to check out some of my hormones, and this coming Friday I am scheduled for an HSG. She's saying that my options are: Clomid and IUI, Superovulation and IUI (with the FSH and HCG trigger, and all the blood and u/s monitoring), or IVF. We can start with one, and work our way through them all, or we can go straight to IVF. But, we have to be aware of my age and all the time things would take... I know I do have good looking ovaries with lots of follicles/eggs, from a pelvic u/s I had earlier this year. It would mean weaning my DS if I did that...SO sad. I wanted him to go off nursing on his own terms, but then I guess I really wasn't thinking that I may wish to have another child and I was mentally defying the stats around conception at my age! My DS eats a ton of solids, in terms of variety and amount, but he loves loves loves to nurse. Wish I would have met my husband before 3 years ago and we could have gotten started on building our family a lot sooner.
Tenzins - I was EXACTLY in your shoes last month! Due to my spotting starting on 7 DPO with my DD, when I got the SAME spotting on 7 DPO last month, I was SURE I was pregnant. I started thinking about the due date and when to tell people and how I was going to be pregnant when we go to Brasil in December, etc. Needless to say, when the bleeding picked up, I was devastated. It was only our first month TTC, but I was just so sure I was pregnant. It was an evil trick my mind played on me. Also, my AF was really odd - only 3 days long instead of the usual 5-6. the bleeding was never as heavy as it normally is for me and my supply didn't drop the way it usually does. So while I think you have been TTC for longer than me, I can totally relate. It took a few weeks to get over it, but I am feeling much more balanced this month. I guess I just wanted to say that I understand and I'm really, really sorry.
As for the weaning, I'm in the same boat. My DD skipped a few nursing sessions a few weeks ago and I was hopeful that she was starting to drop them completely, but now's she back to nursing more again. She's 15 months (bday May 10, 2010), and I really don't want to wean her before 18 months, but ideally 24 months. I do want to have another child soon though.
I hope that you are able to find the right solution for you. I hope you get more information at the fertility doc and that it helps you figure out the next steps.
Thanks for the support! The true test will be what tomorrow temp brings. If it dips below the coverline I know I will get AF. I have no symptoms either way. Yes, LP is long considering last month it was 12 days! I have an acupuncture appointment on Thursday, so we'll see what he can do to help! I will keep you posted!
To those struggling with the decision to wean, I suggest the book "How Weaning Happens" by Diane Bengson. It helped me come to the decision that I will not wean to get pregnant (at least not in the next 4-6 months). But if you do decide to wean it has great suggestions for gentle mother-led weaning.
SKJ - In my case I'm pretty sure it's low progesterone due to breastfeeding. I had some spotting 2DPO & 3DPO this cycle. My last few cycles I had spotting almost every day starting around CD18 (which was about 4DPO). Do you usually have spotting during the second half of your cycle or is this new for you?
Ava's Mama--Thanks for keeping us updated. I'll be looking for your post tomorrow.
SKJ--In reference to you earlier Q about CM...I have had similar Q's...I just re-read the FF charting handbook on that topic and it was helpful but I still am unsure sometimes what is really ecwm (maybe b/c lately I haven't had much!) BTW I had some spotting, too on day DPO 5/6 a cycle or two ago. Think it was just my hormones adjusting to cycling again. I know, it's frustrating!
TenzinsMama--Sounds like a rough week. I hope you get some clarity.
On the issue of weaning, I didn't and conceived DS. I Nursed DD until third trimester with no problems. The most reasonable concern I have heard expressed (in terms of extended BF and/or BF while pregnant) is nutrition. My Endo. was urging me, for instance, to workout with weights and squeeze extra calcium into my diet b/c of extended BF.
AFM--I am pretty sure that I O'd between Fri-Sun...so I'm about 3DPO now. Still waiting for the third day of high temps, though to be sure that I'm in the 2WW.
sraplayas - some women have to wean to conceive again. I know tons of people IRL that have gotten pregnant while breastfeeding. But then there are also some that have to wean completely to concieve. I think I may fall into the later, hoping not though. My son is 3 and I've had my period for a year PP now. I guess only time will tell if I have to wean completely or not.
sraplayas - I'll check out the FF handbook and see if it helps. I'll also look out for your update to move you to the TWW. How long did it take you to get pregnant with your second while you were nursing?
zoe - before my DD, I had 2 cycles with 5 to 6 days of spotting before AF. I wasn't charting then, and the first cycle I charted (and our first real attempt TTC) I got pregnant with DD. As I posted before, I had 6 days of spotting starting on 7 DPO with her. Last cycle was the first PP cycle that I charted and I had one day of spotting before AF. I'm on my 4th PP cycle, so I'm sure things are still adjusting. I started using natural progesterone cream after O, so I thought that might help, but maybe not? I'm also having lots of cramps today. I just really hope AF doesn't show up tomorrow. That would mean a 4 day LP! Yikes!
SKJ - my acupuncturist said I could use progesterone cream but I'm just not ready to go that route yet. If you conceive while using it you are supposed to keep using it every day for the first trimester. I decided to just try acupuncture for one month and then think about the progesterone cream. It should definitley help you if you have low progesterone!! Good Luck!!
Do you all ever wonder if we would be better off not charting? or at least not temping? There is this part of me that is glad that I am doing it as far as knowing when I am ovulating, but I wonder if it is making me over think things as far as the two week wait? Just my thoughts right now, sorry I am not much help to others! I will update tomorrow! hugs and babydust to all!
zoe - thanks for the info. I googled "spotting at 4DPO" and lots of people said they had that and then got preggers. Can someone please rip the keyboard out of my hands already!?!!?
Ava's mama - I am so with you! I was thinking of not temping after O is confirmed just so I don't over analyze during the TWW. I mean, what can my temp tell me during this time? I will know my LP when AF shows up. Hmm. I may just put the therm away today unless someone can convince me otherwise.
BTW, were you ladies obsessive about every little thing when you were preggers? I was a nutcase looking up every symptom I had every day. Google was my enemy. Just curious if I'm the only one