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post #21 of 88

I just heard that you're not supposed to have coffee when pregnant?

post #22 of 88
Thread Starter 

Oh poo! That's a pregnancy "rule" that doesn't HAVE to be followed. 2 cups of caffeinated coffee a day is fine.

post #23 of 88


True, if they are small cups (6oz each).  my "cups" are like 12-16 oz though so I just go decaf :)

 

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Oh poo! That's a pregnancy "rule" that doesn't HAVE to be followed. 2 cups of caffeinated coffee a day is fine.



 

post #24 of 88
Thread Starter 

Mine are 6 oz cups. They are more like tea cups, I don't have coffee mugs.

post #25 of 88

Thanks so much for posting this. I have to take ambien and I sometimes still only sleep 2 hours. The midwife said to drink warm milk and to try to stay up in the day. That doesnt work. If I have a really bad night my body just falls asleep in the day, I only nap for 30 min 45 at the max! I just don't know what to do. The baby is sleep at night. She is up in the day! So I just don't know!!!!!!!!!!!

post #26 of 88
Thread Starter 

I'm gonna see if I can get some Ambien to help me sleep. I get loopy on little to no sleep.

post #27 of 88

I prefer caffeine in the form of coffee or soda to the random dips I get in my BP while pregnant that make me feel like my ears are stuffed with cotton, I get clammy and hot flashes, and tunnel vision to where I can barely stand up. If it's that or caffeine, give me the caffeine! FWIW, none of my kids have extra limbs, heart troubles, or two head. Yet, at least...maybe this'll be my get rich baby: "COFFEE ADDICT MOM GIVES BIRTH TO TWO HEADED HYPERACTIVE BABY!!!!!" ;P

post #28 of 88
Thread Starter 

LMFAO! My poor daughter, when I was pregnant with her, I was addicted to espresso coffees with 3 shots of espresso in them. bigeyes.gif I know, right? She wasn't a super active baby while inside, though. And she came out just fine. Normal baby, 10 fingers, 10 toes, 2 eyes, 8 lbs 4 oz at 40 weeks gestation.

post #29 of 88

I drink coffee while pregnant.  My thought is that if your body is used to drinking it, then it's fine.  I never drink enough to elevate my heart rate, which works for me.  :)

post #30 of 88

I'm cautious about it, even decaf, just because it leaches calcium and iron from the body.  I am already slightly anemic and i supplement calcium for my leg cramps.  It easily crosses the placenta, too, so while it doesn't cause birth defects it can still get to baby.  It is also absorbed slower as pregnancy progresses, so maybe it is exacerbating insomnia?  Who knows.  Just food for thought 

post #31 of 88
Thread Starter 

The coffee I make isn't that strong, and I only drink maybeeeee 2 cups? I don't know. Hopefully I'm not setting myself up for sleepless nights by drinking coffee at 7AM.

post #32 of 88
Thread Starter 

Mr. Sandman....bring me a dream. I. want. to. sleep.........sleepytime.gif

post #33 of 88

Not sleeping is messing me up in all areas.  I was FINALLY falling asleep at like 8:15 this morning after tossing and turning most of the night, and my mom (we're on a family vacation) came in to tell me to say goodbye to my cousin, who was on her way out (I already said goodbye to her at like 7 that morning - no need to wake me). UGH.  So no more sleep for me.

 

So I was wiped out as usual this morning, so I decided to have some green tea (just a little caffeine), which made me feel weird and anxious instead of awake and alert.  So that's out.

 

Now EVERYTHING DH is saying is pissing me off, and I'm overreacting to every little thing.  And I decided to start panicking about the baby having Down Syndrome.  Just... decided that today.  Haven't been worried about it at all the whole pregnancy, but my over-tired, over-sensitive, over-reacting mind decided to glom on to THAT worry and I started crying about it this morning.

 

I'm so tired.  I can't take a nap either, cause it takes me MINIMUM 90 minutes to fall asleep, and now I had that little bit of green tea so I feel all weird and kind of uppity and anxious so that'll throw me off even more.  Plus I'm on vacation with my family so there are so many things to do with them before we all leave in the next few days.

post #34 of 88

I try to limit or avoid caffeine intake as much as possible while pregnant because I wrote a research paper about the neurological effects of caffeine years ago and I decided at that point that I didn't feel comfortable exposing my future babies to caffeine while they're still developing. But I also learned through that research that coffee has potential health benefits, so I kind of weigh the two sometimes when I'm craving a cup. (I won't drink decaf because of the chemical process it goes through, which is worse in my mind than the caffeine. Although there are naturally decaffeinated coffees.) I'm realistic; I don't want to place unnecessary pressure on myself to have to stick to 100% no coffee or caffeine during pregnancy, especially since I REALLY enjoy dark chocolate. yummy.gif I just started drinking maybe one or two cups of coffee a week since about 24 weeks pregnant.

 

My husband works in the sleep medicine field and so I consider myself pretty well-informed on sleep disorders and behaviors that disturb sleep (especially since I have a disorder myself). He says as long as you drink caffeine earlier in the day and aren't drinking it excessively, then its effects should wear off by the time you go to sleep at night. If you don't ingest caffeine regularly, though, it'll probably affect your sleep more on the days you do drink it compared to a regular drinker. Your sensitivity to it factors in. I'm sensitive to it and it takes a lot longer to leave my system. If you're taking in caffeine continuously throughout the day, that could cause some insomnia too. So basically just sticking to it in the morning is the least likely way it'll affect your sleep - but it still could!

post #35 of 88


Good stuff.  I definitely avoided caffeine in first trimester since it is shown to increase miscarriage by a pretty large percentage (50% or so, depending on the study).  Now sometimes I get half caf, but very rarely.  Decaf is enough for me, placebo effect I guess!  I definitely make sure to get swiss-water method decaffeinated coffee.  Starbucks has two, one of them is decaf verona.  I'll have to ask my husband what the other one is... All of Caribou's (for you midwestern/east-coasters) decaf coffees are swiss water method.  I'm not sure about Peets or store-bought stuff.

I've had insomnia issues my whole life and have talked with many docs about it.  I also get restless legs at night, which is awful.  Things that have helped me are:

 

Going to bed as soon as I'm feeling sleepy, even if it is 9pm.  If I dont' fall asleep and feel like I caught a second wind, I wake up but I don't turn on lights or anything- I read a book with a booklight, go on the computer (i turn the screen contrast way down) or I just go stretch my legs in the living room.  

 

Beditme routine:  I do the same things every night to wind myself down- read, relax, take a bath (sometimes), eat a snack (I cannot fall asleep with hunger pains).  The house is quiet and dark for a good hour before bed, so it allows me to get into a good sleep space.  


I also make sure my bed is made.  For some reason this helps me :)

 

If I'm really struggling with sleeplessness I drink some chamomile tea before bed (not too much, and not right before bed.  I pee enough as it is!)  My midwife has recommended skullcap or valerian (tea or pills) which are herbal sleep remedies.  She also mentioned HerbPharm Healthy Sleep Tonic.  I haven't tried it yet, but it's an herbal tincture and she highly recommended it.  

Even despite all of that, sometimes I can't sleep because baby is kicking a lot or I have to pee so often.  I just try to relax and rest even if I'm not asleep because that still has its benefits.  Getting worked up over not sleeping does me no good :)  I also nap every day if I need it, thankfully my DS takes a 3 hour nap.  Hooray!  I also avoid caffeine and sugar.  
 

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I try to limit or avoid caffeine intake as much as possible while pregnant because I wrote a research paper about the neurological effects of caffeine years ago and I decided at that point that I didn't feel comfortable exposing my future babies to caffeine while they're still developing. But I also learned through that research that coffee has potential health benefits, so I kind of weigh the two sometimes when I'm craving a cup. (I won't drink decaf because of the chemical process it goes through, which is worse in my mind than the caffeine. Although there are naturally decaffeinated coffees.) I'm realistic; I don't want to place unnecessary pressure on myself to have to stick to 100% no coffee or caffeine during pregnancy, especially since I REALLY enjoy dark chocolate. yummy.gif I just started drinking maybe one or two cups of coffee a week since about 24 weeks pregnant.

 

My husband works in the sleep medicine field and so I consider myself pretty well-informed on sleep disorders and behaviors that disturb sleep (especially since I have a disorder myself). He says as long as you drink caffeine earlier in the day and aren't drinking it excessively, then its effects should wear off by the time you go to sleep at night. If you don't ingest caffeine regularly, though, it'll probably affect your sleep more on the days you do drink it compared to a regular drinker. Your sensitivity to it factors in. I'm sensitive to it and it takes a lot longer to leave my system. If you're taking in caffeine continuously throughout the day, that could cause some insomnia too. So basically just sticking to it in the morning is the least likely way it'll affect your sleep - but it still could!



 

post #36 of 88

Gah! There are issues with decaf!?! I learn a new way I am damaging this baby everyday. I should know better with my 3rd. Though I have been drinking Starbucks decaf Verona, which Jbk21 says is okay.

 

I was drinking half-caf every morning until my cardiologist said no more. I had to go in for palpitations, and though it wasn't caused by caffeine, he still said to stop. :(
 

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Originally Posted by birdhappy85 View Post

I try to limit or avoid caffeine intake as much as possible while pregnant because I wrote a research paper about the neurological effects of caffeine years ago and I decided at that point that I didn't feel comfortable exposing my future babies to caffeine while they're still developing. But I also learned through that research that coffee has potential health benefits, so I kind of weigh the two sometimes when I'm craving a cup. (I won't drink decaf because of the chemical process it goes through, which is worse in my mind than the caffeine. Although there are naturally decaffeinated coffees.) I'm realistic; I don't want to place unnecessary pressure on myself to have to stick to 100% no coffee or caffeine during pregnancy, especially since I REALLY enjoy dark chocolate. yummy.gif I just started drinking maybe one or two cups of coffee a week since about 24 weeks pregnant.

 

My husband works in the sleep medicine field and so I consider myself pretty well-informed on sleep disorders and behaviors that disturb sleep (especially since I have a disorder myself). He says as long as you drink caffeine earlier in the day and aren't drinking it excessively, then its effects should wear off by the time you go to sleep at night. If you don't ingest caffeine regularly, though, it'll probably affect your sleep more on the days you do drink it compared to a regular drinker. Your sensitivity to it factors in. I'm sensitive to it and it takes a lot longer to leave my system. If you're taking in caffeine continuously throughout the day, that could cause some insomnia too. So basically just sticking to it in the morning is the least likely way it'll affect your sleep - but it still could!



 

post #37 of 88

I wouldn't get down on yourself about drinking decaf. There are so many things I went into this pregnancy telling myself I wouldn't do... (like eat lunch meats, sushi, drink coffee, scoop kitty litter)... and also things I told myself I WOULD do for health benefits... (like exercise all the time and eat a ton of fruits and veggies)... and nothing has worked out like I planned for a million different reasons. I was freaking out in my 1st trimester over everything I had read could harm the baby. I was OCD to the max! It must've been my body naturally making me caution any and everything during that crucial time. But after that, I just told myself --- the heck with it! I'm not going to try to be perfect all the time. I won't let myself feel guilty over these things anymore. I'm just shooting for doing things right 95% of the time. A girl has gotta live! :)

post #38 of 88

Agh I just double-checked with my husband and he said the only naturally decaffeinated coffee is Decaf Sumatra (at Starbucks!)  Sorry, TalktomeNow, I was wrong!  But yeah, I wouldn't worry too much about it.  I mean, I'm sure I eat some non-organic produce and dairy, too, which I usually try to avoid.  Rather than be super-strict I always just say a little "prayer" beforehand- something like "I know this might not be the best thing for me, but I pray it won't hurt my baby or my body."  Might be silly but it helps me feel better :)

 

Plus we eat a lot of fruits and veggies and whole-grains, which naturally mildly detoxify the body.  I hope that counteracts everything :)  




 

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Originally Posted by TalkToMeNow View Post

Gah! There are issues with decaf!?! I learn a new way I am damaging this baby everyday. I should know better with my 3rd. Though I have been drinking Starbucks decaf Verona, which Jbk21 says is okay.

 

I was drinking half-caf every morning until my cardiologist said no more. I had to go in for palpitations, and though it wasn't caused by caffeine, he still said to stop. :(
 



 



 

post #39 of 88

My sleep problems actually AREN'T pg related, but sometimes they do get worse in pregnancy. Or they get better in the immediate postpartum period from THAT hormone shift, so I attribute it to pregnancy. Not sure which. 
 

But my senior year of high school I destroyed my sleep habits due to stress. I was finishing school, coming to grips with both my mom's parents (who were second parents to me...I didn't see or talk to them maybe 10 days in the 18/19 years of my life I had them around) dying, planning a wedding, and running my mom's in home daycare for her while she was at the hospital with her parents. I slept MAYBE 2-3 hours a night and used soda and caffeine pills to keep myself going. :/ My sleep was JUST recovering from that a few years later and DH started working overnights. DD1 and I got onto his schedule. So we'd be up until 1-3AM and sleep until noon or so. Which is honestly my natural pattern. I've been a night owl from toddlerhood. 

 

My main issue now is I have no problem going to bed at 9:30-10PM. But if I do that, I am up at 1-2AM and I cannot fall asleep for anything. I generally try to be in bed by 2AM, though, and then I get about 6-7 hours of sleep before the girls are waking me up. And some afternoons if I really need it, I will let the big girls watch a movie while I doze during DD3's nap. Not often, but occasionally.

post #40 of 88

Insomnia - ah, such a wonderful thing. I hope you've been able to get a good night's sleep since you posted this.

 

I've been exhausted the past couple of days. This morning I was woken up by sore hips. Tonight I can't sleep because I simply feel like the baby suddenly took over my entire torso, squeezing my lungs into a tighter space. My stomach wants to be juiced (do not recommend drinking stomach juice - nasty stuff!) and my abdomen feels like someone's inflating a beach ball. And if my body feels fine, my heart is racing like I'm in the midst of a panic attack and no matter how many deep breaths I take, it just makes me breathless.

 

Yes, the joys of getting ready for those sleepless nights.

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