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 Of course, if you want it and have it or make it, she should at least be offered some, too. Not nice to eat in front of someone and not give them some, too. (I know you don't do that. winky.gif)

Anyway, now we don't have any dietary restrictions. My boys can eat as much of just about anything they want. I have learned that they don't want much junk when they know they can have it all the time, unlike their friends who gorge on junk whenever they are away from their controlling parents.


Ha!  How rude would that be!  No I never do that.  I never get anything or eat anything in front of her that I wouldn't also let her eat.  If I do slip and have something not vegan, it's on my own time and not with her.  Same reason she sips soda, eats junk, etc.  If we have it, she's allowed, too.

 

It's funny tho b/c more often than not she chooses healthier fare.  She's been known to turn down cookies/cake/candies for an apple or banana.  She eats such a variety of healthy things -- all her veggies, loves beans, chickpeas, ethnic food (indian, greek, chinese, etc).  Her favorite snack is hummus and carrots or chips and guac.  Her tastes run the gamut.  So, I'm not worried -- at least she's not a french fry-nugget kid.  You know?  Same as your kids.  Since it's allowed, she's cool to choose other things too.

 

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I keep forgetting to ask. Has anyone heard of, used or know someone who has used ColicCalm? It's a homeopathic remedy for gas, reflux, hiccups, etc. I got some yesterday and gave D a half a dose last night. Within minutes he was screaming. greensad.gif It didn't last long but it was continual, which he had never done before. He would occasionally scream once or twice like he was in pain but that was it. No ongoing screams or crying. I don't know if it was a coincidence but I'm afraid to give him anymore.

I'm going to try the block nursing, one breast for a 2 hour period, to see if that helps with my milk ejection and supply. I guess I'm old school because I have always had it in my head from back when I was breastfeeding Ryan that I need to get baby to nurse on both breasts and every feeding. From what I read, I think that is probably the cause of my problems.


Hmm. I wouldn't use it again.  It may have just been the gas breaking up, but that would freak me out too.

 

Def try the block nursing.  It can only help!

 

Oh - I talked to my mw.  I said we could totally do Sat but if it's ok, we could just do it next week.  She was totally cool with that.  Asked me if I was having any bloody show or losing plug, and I sighed and said no, just lots of ctx.  We talked about how I'm feeling mentally and if I was ok to wait a week, and I said I'm tired and getting crabby but otherwise I'm doing ok.  Ready, but ok.  If anything I'm to call her anyways, so, she said she'd talk to me this weekend unless I needed her before then.  

I went for a short stroller walk (less than 1 mi) and did some lunges.  I figure if he's ready, maybe something will trigger him out!  lol.gif

 

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i would def try the block feeding; I know I had issues with a strong milk ejection reflex (letdown, whatever) we ended up doing block feeding more because I couldn't get Gabe to stay awake for both sides than anything else.

 

I used Mylicon sparingly with DS - just because I hated giving him anything sort of medicinal - . . . around 3-4 month if he was upset at all I used teething tablets, because I figured it might be teething making him cranky, might not, but there is stuff in there that helps calm him regardless.

 

That's great about the doc. The ped we saw for DS was fine, sort of, with us not vaxing, just gave us tons of CDC hand outs. Gabe hasn't been sick enough to warrant a sick visit, so we've not been since he was 4 months old. I figure when we go for DD, I'll see if they will give him a once over since we're there.

 

Junk food is why I've not gained as much this pregnancy as I did with my first. Because if I ate it, I'd have to share with DS, and I don't want to. He eats more junk now we live with the in laws, because chips and stuff like that are staples in their house, where it is a treat in ours. He has had sips of soda - but only in the last couple of months, and only when we don't have anything else to offer him (and it is totally unfair that we have drinks and he doesn't) . . . he loves marshmallows.

 

I am not vegan or anything, but can I tell you, my favorite cookie is vegan? it's the Alternative Baking Company chocolate chip cookie. There are like 500 calories per cookie, but I do NOT care. they are so yummy!

 

I think my MIL gets irked when DS doesn't eat much dinner because he was snacking beforehand (not necessarily on junk, sometimes it's like peanut butter crackers or a fruit bar) but we (as in all 4 adults) don't eat dinner at the same time every evening, sometimes we don't eat until 7 or 8, so if I get home around 4 and DS is hungry, I let him eat. If we then end up eating at 5:30 and he's just not hungry, it doesn't bother me. If he gets hungry again before bed, I'll let him eat some more; we always have leftovers. I try telling her that he is just a grazer (and that is actually a pretty healthy way to eat, as long as it's done with healthy food), but she has a thing about sitting down to eat a meal. oh well. Trying to think of some more healthy snacks to keep on hand for him too . . . that don't go bad quickly.

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Carrie ~ That's exactly how my kids are. They like cookies and ice cream and dessert but they'll just as soon pick fruit or a granola bar or yogurt for a snack over something sweet. I do sometimes ask them if they'll eat something "healthy" before having something or other that they've asked for. When I do they usually comply, I think because I don't ever force them to eat certain foods or a certain amount.

Kat ~ My mother is having a big of trouble with the fact that my kids don't really sit down and eat a meal. I let them eat when they are hungry. I don't make them wait when their stomachs are grumbling. I don't think that's nice. My mother has manage to completely fill my fridge and pantry with food because she gets and makes so much that no one eats and she won't throw anything away. I mean, she saves EVERYTHING, even rotten fruit! She scrapes food off of everyone's dinner plates to save. Yuck! I can understand saving whatever is left in the pot or pan but don't combine food from everyone's half eaten plates to serve as leftovers later. Once she even saved a roast that the dog grabbed and ran off with. She ran it under the faucet and put it in the fridge for later. Um, yeah, there's no way I'm letting her feed that to my kids. grossedout.gif We're not big leftovers people anyway, so I tell her it won't get eaten. She insists she'll eat it if no one else does but there's no way she can eat all the food in there. As always, I'll have to wait until she leaves and then throw it all out. lol.gif I can't do it while she's here or she will get so mad.

I'm keeping the Mylicon drops in the back of my mind. I'm hoping the gas is from the milk ejection stuff and will calm down once I get my milk supply under control. We had a hard time last night. He kept trying to nurse but the milk would shoot out so hard and fast that he'd choke and sputter and then get filled with gas. I let the milk flow out and tried putting him back on once it slowed but it would eventually start shooting out again after he sucked for a while. It was very frustrating for both of us.

He's definitely gaining weight, though. My MW weighed him at 9 lbs., 4 oz. yesterday and the nurse at the ped weighed him at 10 lbs. today (with his diaper on so I can take off a few ounces).
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Ugh, that is yuck! (pot roast thing) the fridge is packed with leftovers -which everyone but me doesn't mind eating. I just can.not. do it all the time. Somethings I LOVE as leftovers (lasagne!) others, not so much (boxed pasta). DS always chooses the sweet stuff right now . . . two of his favorite words are "cook" (cookie) and "cake" - granted, cookies are anything from animal crackers, which I don't think are that awful, as they don't seem super sweet to me, to chocolate chip ones.

 

also, he thinks all food is "hot" right now, which I don't quite understand, but whatever. Since things that are legitmately hot (or potentially so, like ovens and bbq grills) he also says hot for, I don't mind.

 

I'm going yarn shopping on Friday or Saturday, so will work on more hats this weekend and next week! I love having projects! I like to crochet, but it's like saving $$ (as in putting it back), I need a purpose, I can't just crochet to crochet.

 

How old is D now? I don't know if it was letdown or what - but DS had major latch issues, popping on and off and screaming his head off, but I pumped at first a lot and gave it in a bottle, by 6 -7 weeks we were back to mostly straight from a breast. I don't know if part time bottle feeding is an option for you or not . . . since I WOH at least 2 days a week (or did, I get to WAH 4 days a week soon!) I knew he'd have to take a bottle eventually anyway. I figured at least it was still breastmilk. I am hoping to not need to do that with this baby. (but bottles were handy for trips out and about, since he took forever to nurse at first - sometimes as much as an hour at a time).

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And just to gross you out some more, Ryan came home in the middle of the night and ate the pot roast before I could tell him not to. I was mad at my mom for that because I think she really should have put a warning on the bag it was in.
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How old is D now? I don't know if it was letdown or what - but DS had major latch issues, popping on and off and screaming his head off, but I pumped at first a lot and gave it in a bottle, by 6 -7 weeks we were back to mostly straight from a breast. I don't know if part time bottle feeding is an option for you or not . . . since I WOH at least 2 days a week (or did, I get to WAH 4 days a week soon!) I knew he'd have to take a bottle eventually anyway. I figured at least it was still breastmilk. I am hoping to not need to do that with this baby. (but bottles were handy for trips out and about, since he took forever to nurse at first - sometimes as much as an hour at a time).

He's 2 weeks and 2 days today. He doesn't have a problem with latch anymore, if he ever did. The popping off is definitely because of my let down. It shoots straight out from several ducts so forcefully that it sprays everything. When my milk first came in with Ryan I was standing in front of the mirror in the bathroom drying off from a shower when I noticed these white spots all over the mirror. I was like, "What in the world is that?" Then I looked down and saw that it was milk shooting out of my breasts. lol.gif I used to lay flat on my back to nurse Ryan to try to keep the milk from shooting out so much. I've tried that a few times with D but he doesn't seem to be getting the hang of that position. Side lying, which is supposed to be good for excessive let down, seems to cause more frustration. D seems to get a lot more gassy when we try to nurse like that. Of course, that's in the middle of the night when I'm half asleep so it's hard for me to sit up to nurse him. Also, when I turn the light on so I can see what I'm doing at night, he wakes up, which I do not want in the middle of the night.

I don't want or need to bottle feed so I'm not going to go there for now. I read that pumping more than just a teeny bit actually makes the problem of oversupply and forceful let down worse. I've never pumped and don't have the patience for hand expressing. I have been thinking that it would be nice to collect the milk that's leaking out of my non-nursing breast to store for an emergency. I did that with E and K but I don't seem to have anything to store it in anymore.
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 I don't want or need to bottle feed so I'm not going to go there for now. I read that pumping more than just a teeny bit actually makes the problem of oversupply and forceful let down worse. I've never pumped and don't have the patience for hand expressing. I have been thinking that it would be nice to collect the milk that's leaking out of my non-nursing breast to store for an emergency. I did that with E and K but I don't seem to have anything to store it in anymore.


I wouldn't pump, it would only lead to more issues, I think.  I agree with your logic on that.  You can buy things to save that milk that leaks out the other side, I forget what they're called.  Hmm.  They're like little bags you tape on.  I have flat nips and use shells in the beginning, and they work to collect milk too, even if you don't want them too!  LOL!

 

Feeling so menstrual crampy and have a lower backache that's making me SO irritated.  Ugh.  Baby has hiccups though.  Don't they say if a baby has hiccups, they won't be born anytime soon?  I think I remember hearing something like that...

 

 

 

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I wouldn't pump, it would only lead to more issues, I think.  I agree with your logic on that.  You can buy things to save that milk that leaks out the other side, I forget what they're called.  Hmm.  They're like little bags you tape on.  I have flat nips and use shells in the beginning, and they work to collect milk too, even if you don't want them too!  LOL!

 

Feeling so menstrual crampy and have a lower backache that's making me SO irritated.  Ugh.  Baby has hiccups though.  Don't they say if a baby has hiccups, they won't be born anytime soon?  I think I remember hearing something like that...

 

 

 


i just randomly came across a review of those tape on milk collector thingies the other day. i meant to look them up. milkie somethings?

D had hiccups all the time. i don't recall if he had hiccups the sunday i went into labor but i would guess he did or at least the day before. he still gets hiccups a lot.

he's so sweet. i'm just sitting here holding him. he puts his head on my chest and his arms up so he can hold on. i swear he was giving my kisses at the doc's office. he kept leaning up and forward toward my face. i would lean down and kiss him and he'd do it again. he wasn't trying to suck or rooting as if he were hungry. when we got home he pursed his lips at me. i asked him if he was blowing me kisses. he did it again so i gave him a kiss and he popped his mouth open and made a kissing sound. i don't know if it was on purpose but it sure was cute.
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he's so sweet. i'm just sitting here holding him. he puts his head on my chest and his arms up so he can hold on. i swear he was giving my kisses at the doc's office. he kept leaning up and forward toward my face. i would lean down and kiss him and he'd do it again. he wasn't trying to suck or rooting as if he were hungry. when we got home he pursed his lips at me. i asked him if he was blowing me kisses. he did it again so i gave him a kiss and he popped his mouth open and made a kissing sound. i don't know if it was on purpose but it sure was cute.


That's adorable!!! Awwe!!  I really cannot wait to smother my own baby with kisses.  Can. Not. Wait.  love.gif

 

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i found those milk saver things. they are called milkies milk savers. i ordered one but i'm not clear if it comes with storage bags.
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the gratuitous baby pic

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Hi ladies! I've been reading along but I haventbhad much time to reply plus I hate typing on the iPad!

It's so awesome being home but challenging at the same time! I feel like I need five copies of me! And that's just to do the stuff for Ava! We are still having trouble with nursing. My nipples are inverted so she doesn't want to latch. I started wearing breast shells tonight to try to draw out my nipples. Has anyone had any luck with that? I had a crazy milk supply at the hospital from their pumps but it has gone down a lot since we've been home.

Got to run... Baby crying!
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Annie!!!  Hi mama!!!  Good to see you!!!

 

I have used shells with amazing, amazing results.  It took a few days of wearing them even in between nursings during the day (they look silly, so only around the house) but soon my nip would perk up on its own.  Keep trying!!  Keep using them.  The good thing is that you can't get reliant on them the way you can on a shield, b/c the baby is nursing on bare boob, not on a device.  So, yes, give it a shot!  

 

I bought a new pack for this time around.  Since DD weaned my nips don't perk up on their own anymore.  Back to square one, I'm assuming.

 

MW - D is sooo cutttteeee!!  SQUEEE!!  I love seeing baby pics!! 

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Annie- so glad Ava is home with you! I think I remember reading somewhere that you should pump before baby latches on to draw out inverted nipples. 

 

MW- that gripe water stuff is bogus. They put peppermint in it and peppermint negates homeopathic remedies so basically you're only getting the peppermint and herbal concoction left. 

Mercola.com says that colic is reduced when a bf-ing mama and baby both take probiotic supplements. I would give it a shot. I would also try single homeopathic remedies or at least a combo vial with no herbal, especially peppermint, in it. 

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Agreed. Baby pic love. 

 

Annie-- I'm so glad you guys are home! Little by little progress will be made. Go easy on both of yourselves. We're all rooting for you!

 

 

 

My DH is in the process of calling the cops on our neighbors. Joy. I'm pretty sure I wrote about the garbage with our fence? Anyways, our neighbors were swearing and angry last week that we 'went on their property' to finish installing the brand new fence we were putting up (which they obviously neither thanked us for or helped pay for). We had called the community police line and were told to call the non-emergency line because yes it was indeed serious, and they should send someone out. So we called the non-emergency line, and they agreed, said that it would be a bit of a wait before they could send someone out, but that they would call us back and get an update. Then when the actual officer who was supposed to come out called back, he basically said there was nothing he could do, but to call back if anything else happened (he obviously didn't feel like driving out, since everyone else at the station we talked to said YES! it was serious and someone should be sent. 

 

Anyways, DH just walked outside to get something from the garage, and the neighbor started yelling and swearing at him through his window that "it was ON now" and he would get us back and he wouldn't hear the last of this, etc etc. I was like mmm hmm... that's officially a threat, so we're calling them back. Not only is this guy off his rocker, and I'm pregnant, but we have a 7lb dog, and I would totally not put it past him to hurt/poison him. 

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JJ: how awful! hope something is done!

 

MW: Love the baby pic! I never used shields or shells . . . my problem was that my breasts were so full that my nipples went flat so I used the pump to empty them a bit and draw them out. worked really well for that! (I should note, that I really, really hate pumping and wish I didn't have to, but it did come in handy sometimes - also that I also wish I never had to use a bottle at all, but I did and will have to again. sucks, but that's life for me unless we win the lottery!)

 

Annie: glad you're home and hope Ava continues to do well. Can you rent the hospital pump - if it was a help? - or try the shells?

 

Last night was rough - I don't know if DS is cutting some more teeth or just has a cold, but he was miserable. He woke up around 1:30 and didn't really go back to sleep until after 4. He's snotty (clear though) - didn't know what he wanted, just was fighting sleep, and couldn't get comfortable. We went downstairs (including DH) and chilled for a bit, then I brought DS back to bed with me and DH stayed on the couch. We can tag team DS (take turns) but both of us at once seems to make it worse when he's upset. I just about had him out then DH came to bed and DS woke up again, but thankfully went back to sleep pretty quickly (another 15 minutes of squirming)

 

Only highlight is I dreamed of our little girl before I woke up! I dreamt I didn't stay long in the hospital, and she had light blond fuzz. A friend came to visit and we chatted and got rid of the extra boy stuff I had. . . . and I dreamt of nursing her, which seemed to go like it did with DS, had to work on getting her to open wide. Anyway, it was precious! looking forward to meeting her for real.

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wave.gif annie. i never used shells but if that's what they're made for, keep trying. do you have a local LLL meeting or leader? i would be very surprised if you didn't in your area. i think LLL leaders and groups are more helpful than LCs. i agree that getting yourself a hospital pump to keep your supply up while you're working things out might be a good idea. i don't really know, though. shannon would know better about that. or check the LLL website.

jj ~ i hope you get that neighbor taken care of. that's scary.

kat ~ sweet dreams.

kinder ~ thanks for the info. the stuff i got does have peppermint in it. hmmph. it says the peppermint induces the expulsion of gas. it also has vegetable charcoal instead of NA bicarbonate. http://coliccalm.com/ it says the charcoal is non-carcinogenic but idk about it. i am taking probiotics and plan to check the health food store for baby ones when i can. i haven't had a chance to go there yet and i can't trust my mom to get the right thing. D isn't what i would call colicy, though. he hardly ever cries at all. he sleeps a lot. isn't really very restless. when he is restless i know it's from gas because he's fine again as soon as he burps or farts. he doesn't even cry then. He grunts and squirms and kicks his little legs. Burps aren't usually too difficult but he does have a hard time with farts.

Last night was much better. He went about 3 hours between nursings. As long as I burped him he went right back to sleep. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. smile.gif
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Annie:   Are you still pumping at all?  Just not w/a hospital grade pump?  Is your lower supply just down-regulating to what Ava actually needs or are you concerned that it's not enough to meet her needs?  Here's info on flat nipples:  http://www.llli.org/faq/flat.html  And you can find a LLL Leader here:  http://www.llli.org/webus.html

 

JJ: Good luck w/the crazy neighbor!

 

Kat: If you have the same issue w/engorgement this time around, consider reverse pressure softening:  http://www.llli.org/faq/engorgement.html

 

I'm still hanging out w/a posterior babe & about 4-6 contractions during most hours since Fri afternoon.  I sure hope all this is doing something!

 

 

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Shannon, good to know - it looks like, based on the link, that sometimes that happens due to pitocin and IV fluids given during labor. I hope to avoid both this time, and hopefully won't have the same issue.

 

 

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Can't wait for more baby announcements! Believe it or not but I actually miss that anticipation of when/if labor would start before my scheduled c-section. Hopefully tonight I can use DH's computer and write up my birth story.

I used those shells last night and it was a disaster! They drew out my niples but DD was having a rough night so she screamed on and off for hours and the shells were filling up with milk and then my shirt, bra, pants and part of my bed got soaked with milk! And I still couldn't get her to latch! I tried again this morning after I had pumped for a few mins and she still wouldn't latch. I have two friends that are LLL leaders so I'm going to try to see them this weekend to get help.

Im also going to check in to renting one of the hospital pumps. I'm pumping enough for maybe 1 1/2 feeds but I'm concerned that if I don't get her nursing my supply will dry up and I want to be able to give her BM at least until after her next surgery which could be 6-8 months away. With the hospital pump, I was pumping enough for three feeds so I could freeze most of it.
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shannon ~ it has to be doing something. hopefully, all of this means your birth won't take too long.

annie ~ i know what you mean. there's a bit of a let down once all of that drama is over. now there's not much to do but wait for baby to wake up to be fed and change diapers. although, me trying to get a shower today was a bit dramatic. every time i got D down someone would run in my room yelling and wake him up. i'm thinking i might need a sign for the bedroom door to remind everyone to be quiet when the door is shut.
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