I am growing weary of the cyclical nature of many of these discussions. I do not see much middle ground at the moment - and wonder how we can learn anything from each other if we do not get past some stumbling blocks.
Here are some obstacles I see:
Vaxxers should not:
-assume all non vaxxers are stupid. No one is going to listen to you if you come across as condescending.
-play the "children in xyz or from this era are dying from this!" Yeah, well, most of us do not live in xyz, and are trying to figure out the disease and vax risks where we live.
-trot out herd immunity or "co-relation is not causation " in every.single.argument. I suppose some newbies here have not heard it before but it does get old. For extra bonus points - apply herd immunity to all diseases in very broad strokes - cuz you know, all diseases are the same.
-claim you have seen all sorts of VPD. Because you haven't. Unless you live overseas or work in a major, major hospital. To the few poeple who have seen serious VPD's: I do understand a person being swayed to a POV by what they have seen, but it does not make a great argument unless the stats back it up. Yes, this goes for non-vaxxers as well.
-Assume all VPD are horrible, with horrible risks - because some are mild diseases.
-come into conversations for the purpose of pot stirring. Nuf said.
Non-vaxxers should not:
-list crazy sites. It just makes us look crazy. There is plenty of fodder from things like the CDC - use it. If you do list a crazy site, put a disclaimer on it ("I know this site is controversial but this particular article has some cool points")
- downplay the existence or complications from VPD. I do think the risks are small - but they are there. Not all VPD's or vaxxes are equal.
- I have not heard this one lately, but it does float around from time to time: Vaxxers on MDC are not sheeple.
On other issues it is not a communcation problem, but a genuine lack of common ground.
Herd immunity, how one views the body and its healing capabilities, the validity with which one views anecdotal evidence and trust in authority are all going to come into play.
A non-vaxxer who believes herd immunity is a flawed argument is not going to be able to have a fruitful discussion with someone who believes herd immunity is the reason we vaccinate.
I am bravely going to hit submit. If anyone wants to add to the list, feel free. If anyone has any idea on how (if?) vaxxers and non-vaxxers can communicate in a way in which either party understands the other a little better, please add. Vaccination (or not) is one of the weightiest decisions parents make - it would be nice if we could talk about it more effectively. I know the above tone in the lists is harsh, but I figure if we get it all out - we might be able to move on more effectively.