Very confused, please help

[babyygirllhi]

My situation is obviously not "going by the book" but here it goes...

I have this feeling I am pg, and the only way I would have gotten pg is 2 days before my expected period. But its not so strange to assume i've ovulated late, since I got off mini pill 3 months ago plus that I have stressed VERY much the past couple of months.

So the one time I had unprotected sex (he finished inside more than once) was Aug 9 and AF should have arrived aug 11 but never showed (I expected af aug 11 because last months cycle was 30 days and this would be 30 days later). So, assuming I ovulated on 9th, I would be 8dpo. Also, I wasnt consciously stressing about anything until about 2 days after I realized AF hadnt arrived .. Here are my symptoms:

1dpo-nothing
2dpo(AF due)-mild cramping
3dpo-mild cramping. lotiony cm
4-5dpo-woke up feeling totally like af arrived. felt wet, lots of cramps and like i had to poop. went to toilet, nothing! then had mild cramps off and on. small amount of yellow discharge.
6-7dpo-Woke up in middle of the night with night sweats. Woke up with mild cramping, exhausted, sweaty/chilled, all morning. Felt better towards evening. Very hungry but feel picky. wet lotiony cm.

Here is where it gets strange! Last night I had a pinching feeling in my stomch on the right side just barely below belly button. I sat and watched it bc it was so strange, just like someone was pinching me. THEN, 15 minutes later I went to pee, and in my underwear was pinkish/brown cm! Along with a tiny bit while I wiped, and that was it!! I panicked, thinking omg that was implantation. BUT...then I woke up this mornig with brown discarhge, turned into brown blood, turned into red spotting which is now a red light flow, without cramps.

I think I have read somewhere that if a woman ovulates and conceives very late, she will still bleed? Or am I dreaming?

Any ideas ?

[babyygirllhi]

Could I have truly felt implantation and today it was misscariage?

[Jaimee]

Welcome to MDC!!    Okay, let's break this down a bit...

CD 1 7/13

CD 28 unprotected sex

CD 30 expected AF (8/11)

CD 35 brown discharge

CD 36 red blood, light flow

Implantation spotting is not very common at all.  It's talked about a lot on boards like these and others, but what is really more common is hormonal bleeding, especially around the time of expected AF.  It is certainly no guarantee that a woman would bleed after late implantation- it can happen no matter when implantation occurs.  Without more information about your ovulation day, I would guess that ovulation and therefore AF were simply 6 days late with a day of spotting prior.  This is not at all uncommon when regulating off of hormonal birth control. 

Implantation bleeding would occur sometime between 6 and 12 DPO, most likely between 8 and 10 DPO.  If you have an average length luteal phase then your bleeding would generally occur 12-14 DPO.  But since you're regulating still, your LP may be on the short side.  This supports my thought that it's actually hormonal bleeding- either breakthrough bleeding (not proceeded by ovulation) or AF.  The symptoms you're having would not likely be pregnancy related until after 6 DPO, though more likely around 8 DPO.  Otherwise they are likely caused by hormonal fluctuations of your regulating cycles.

But you can always test to confirm!  You could try now and if you get a BFN, I would suggest trying again in 4-7 days.  Be sure to get a test that only requires an hCG level of 25 (like a dollar store test, most generic drug store tests, First Response Early Response, etc.) and use first of the morning urine.

The only way to confirm ovulation is to chart your basal body temperature.  I would highly recommend starting to temp this next cycle so you can see if you are indeed ovulating and how long your luteal phase is.  It is generally agreed that you need at least a 10 day LP to sustain a pregnancy, so if yours is shorter than that you may have to wait a few more months for your cycles to regulate.

If you'd like more information about charting, just post!  Good luck and keep us updated!

[babyygirllhi]

This is EXACTLY what I was looking for. Thank you so much!

I'm sure it's AF as well. Today, CD37 (Or should I say CD2?) and i'm spotting red. So yes, it's very light compared to what i'm used to be can very well be due to hormones. All of this seems opposite of what pregnancy would show. Good to know. Thanks so much for your help!

Might take test in few days and will reply if it turns out crazy and im pg. However i'm not expecting that!

[Jaimee]

AF can vary in heaviness, especially when regulating from a hormonal event like going off birth control.  So I'm not surprised that you're experiencing a change from the ordinary.  The cramping and body temp issues could be caused by this as well. But since you don't know for certain if/when you O'd there is still a chance that this is bleeding with pregnancy.   Again, my money is on AF, but certainly any time you have unprotected sex around the time of O, there is a chance of pregnancy!

Let's say for argument purposes that you O'd the day before you DTD (CD 27) as the egg can live for up to 24 hours after O.  Then you would be 9 DPO today and could get an accurate HPT result in about 3 days.  Conversely, let's say the sperm lived for 5 days after DTD (this is generally agreed to be the life span of a hearty sperm in fertile CF) and you O'd on CD 33.  That would make you only 4 DPO today and you would need to wait another week or so to get accurate results (though your bleeding would not make much sense in this scenario!).  So 3-8 days for testing. Get a two pack! 

[babyygirllhi]

Haha Dont even think I need to test:)

Yesterday it was very light, just spotting except in the evening it turned BRIGHT red, watery and looked like ewcm in my blood (ew i know .. ). It ended quite fast. So all this just seems like strange period due to stress or coming off the pills. I wouldnt be bleeding if I were pregnant, or atleast that is so unlikely.

Im actually a bit surprised im not pregnant. The month befre last my bf and I had lots of unprotected sex throughout the whole month (however ive been under tons of stress) but period arrived on time. Was a bit light but way heavier than what i'm having now and it lasted 4 days. The month after coming off the mini pill I bled extremely heavy 4-5 days straight. (so now this is cycle 3 after coming off).

Today is day 3 of period and it's only brown. Im probably not even ovulating yet, after coming off the pill. (Even though I was only on it for 3 months).

Thanks for your great advice:) We'll see what happens but im def not expecting a bfp!

[Jaimee]

Bleeding during pregnancy is actually not that unlikely.  It's fairly common.  Not usually all out bleeding (though that happens, too), but spotting and very light flow are common posts here.  Temping will be very helpful to you to unravel the mystery of your cycles. 

[babyygirllhi]

Originally Posted by Jaimee 

Bleeding during pregnancy is actually not that unlikely.  It's fairly common.  Not usually all out bleeding (though that happens, too), but spotting and very light flow are common posts here.  Temping will be very helpful to you to unravel the mystery of your cycles. 

I've read a lot about bleeding during pregnancy, but from what i've read it's usually brown to brownish/red. Mine was bright watery red last night (stringy, looked like i was ovulating with ewcm and blood). Not a flow, but a small gush followed by it fading away..

What threw me over the edge was the night I felt pinching followed by a dime sized pinkish discharge. I swore it was implantation. But since i've bled, it feels impossible. Plus that I had sex 2 days before expected period (not likely to get pg at that time), period came 6 days late and is strange, makes me believe it's stress related. But i've been having crazy hot flashes which i'm not used to and having random short crying spells thorughout the day for the past 2 days (but can be from stress, lots going on in my life right now)

Im in the middle of moving and finishing up with school, plus lost a bit of weight, then gained it back (like a pound or 2) , so makes way more sense that it's due to this rather than possibly being able to get pregnant at a time like this.

Edited by babyygirllhi - 8/19/11 at 7:36am