Originally Posted by Honey693
Manners are manners. You act polite no matter if you're at McDonald's or TFL. If you're judging someone who used the wrong spoon or ate Continental style I would be inclined to say that you're the one with no manners.
Ah, but therein lies the rub. Some of these nuances aren't manners... they're etiquette. There are those who need to know and often use the rules of etiquette in different situations (and in State situations you have another set of rules called "protocol") and those who will never need them. It's neither bad or good, just different. But to teach these rules of etiquette isn't a bad thing, IMO, nor is it judgmental. It just is what it is. Some may use them, others not. I would say using the wrong spoon is an example of dining etiquette, not manners.
I found myself in a situation when I was barely an adult where I was having lunch with the future Vice President of the United States. Had I not had any knowledge of proper etiquette, I would absolutely NOT have been able to enjoy the meal. However, I felt comfortable and confident, and did enjoy the meal, the discussion, and the environment. It's a fond memory I have. Do I use those rules on a daily basis?? Hell no. But there is a difference between manners and etiquette. And good or bad, dining etiquette, where it matters, actually matters. I don't have a problem with it at all, and actually like some of the finer points of formality. Those that do have a problem with it will probably not put themselves in those situations, and that's cool too. To each his own.
As many have said before, though... there needs to be at least a minimum requirement of manners (by children and adults alike) to not disrupt the other diners.