Velochic, what does all of your talk about napkins, soup and vice presidents have to do with the example family you described? The parents and their sauce-flinging 8 y.o.? I do believe everyone here knows the difference between etiquette and manners. Honestly it seems like you are the one mixing the two together.
I was asking if these things are taught to kids anymore. I come from very humble roots - rural farming family, working my way through college, parents who were small children during the Great Depression, and I was still taught impeccable manners and dining etiquette even though at the time I was taught it seemed like I'd never use it. Then, out of the blue, as poor working student, I am asked to a lunch where these minutia of dining etiquette become important... hell yeah, I'm glad my parents taught me what they did. I wasn't bragging about having lunch with a dignitary, I was pointing out that even if you think your kids will never use them, learning the rules of etiquette can be valuable and I'm bragging on my parents for having that forethought. All I'm saying is that, IMO, it doesn't hurt to teach your kids these things, it can only come in handy and make your kids more polite no matter where they are. If that makes me a snob to know the rules, then hell yeah, I'm a snob. And I'm teaching my daughter to be a snob, too, then. Neither I nor anyone else I have ever seen have ever commented to someone or to each other if they missed a fine etiquette point. I've never even seen someone say something about a rude child that is making the meal miserable for everyone around them. (Show me where I said that I watch other people and comment or judge if they choose the wrong utensil.) If you'll re-read my OP, I said that this incident got me to thinking about what is being taught to kids these days. I know what we do in our family, but obviously some parents are not even teaching their kids manners. I was wondering why. And yes, I'm mixing the two together because I think even if parents aren't teaching finer points, then at least teach them basic manners so they don't disturb others around them.
Edited by velochic - 8/25/11 at 3:53am