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post #41 of 115
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the pemmican manifesto: paleofood.com/pemmican.htm
i cook with tallow but i dont know if i like it enough to eat pemmican. Sounds like good energy food though.
post #42 of 115

I thought ketosis in pregnancy was a bad thing?

 

post #43 of 115
Thread Starter 
ketones are only bad if they're from diabetic ketoacidosis. One of the hormones of pregnancy ~hCS~ actually encourages the maternal metabolism to switch to fat burning for fuel (ketones).

Itsasecret are you a paleo mama? This is a support thread for paleo mamas. smile.gif
post #44 of 115

 No, I'm not technically Paleo and it was only a question - not a judgment.

 

I asked because my MW freaked out last pregnancy because I went into ketosis. My MW freaked out about a lot of non-issues so I was wanting a different opinion than hers.

 

 

post #45 of 115

I make both jerky and pemmican.   The pemmican is super easy.  Just thinly slice and dry the meat - I use deer and elk.  Chop it up in a food processor along with dried berries of your choice.  In a bowl, drizzle the tallow over the meat mixture, stirring.  Put in a glass jar, smashing down tightly.  Once it cools it will take some work to get the mixture out as it will be pretty hard.

 

Jerky is easy as well.  I just use shoyu/soy sauce, a little liquid smoke, a dash of sweetener of your choice and lots of peppers.  I marinate overnight and then dry.  Reminds me that I need to bring some to work so I have more snack choices.

post #46 of 115
Hi all! I am trad foods/ semi paleo and having a rough time with this morning sickness. It seems some say that you won't get morning sickness if your diet is right, but I honestly think hormones just effect me strongly. Way back in the day when I was on hormonal birth control ( before I knew better) I would get horribly sick even from that! So I am tryyyying to keep my diet when 1) I don't have the energy to cook and 2) I am nauseous all day long. Luckily my hubby has been cooking some but nothing sounds great. Can't wait for 2nd tri!!
post #47 of 115

I'm experiencing the same thing currently, I'm low carb/paleo (no breads, grains, rice, pasta, beans, potatoes etc) but I still manage to feel sick all day long.  The only thing that seems to help is eating or snacking every 2 hours even if I don't feel like it.  I just keep nuts, berries, cherry tomatos and other little snacks on me at work and i feel much better.  I also had bad reactions to some birth control pills back in the day so I think despite my good diet I'm just affected more by the nausea.  I hope that helps a little!

 

post #48 of 115
Yeah, if my husband can force me to eat something is usually helps.... But it's hard to want to!! Last pregnancy I threw up cod liver oil and still can't stomach the thought but I know I need to take it! What is everyone doing for supplements? I am planning to do the raw liver 'pills' again as well, herbal tea ( rrl, nettles and alfalfa), fermented clo, maybe some butter oil ( though we consume a LOT of grass fed butter so I am not worried), a probiotic and then just whole food eating. I guess we are not completely paleo since we do raw milk. But I do try to be gluten free ( though I admit to occasional gluten, I am horrible!) and low carb.
post #49 of 115
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how many carbs are you mamas at per day? If i keep mine really low (ie no berries or fruit) then i dont get nausea. If i have even half a peach, watch out. About the max carbs i can tolerate is 30. It's weird but i'm sooo glad to have figured that out for myself. I've heard the same from other mamas on my lowcarb board who lc'd during pregnancy~if they stayed vlc they didnt get morning sickness.

Supplements~a good multi (it's not a prenatal, it's the one i always take), vite c 500, folate 1mg, jarrow max dha, a good d3 5000iu, chelated magnesium, calcium. I also use lots of himalayan sea salt and potassium salts on my food.

The jarrow max dha is the first fish oil that i've tried that doesnt give the dreaded fish burps, so Ill be sticking with it. smile.gif

is there any benefit to taking the liver raw compared to cooking it? We have liver for dinner sometimes and i always feel energized the next day.
post #50 of 115

My midwife says ginger is good for MS.  I like it in food, but the tea is too strong for me.  I tried adding just a little bit to my ACV drink.  It was tolerated, but I still feel upset.  My stomach has felt light years better after a romaine salad.  I never feel like eating it, but i shove it in and then all of a sudden it's the bests tasting thing in the world.  I am not familiar with carb counting.  That is interesting about it's correlation to MS.  I think I will have to look that up. 

post #51 of 115
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how many carbs are you mamas at per day? If i keep mine really low (ie no berries or fruit) then i dont get nausea. If i have even half a peach, watch out. About the max carbs i can tolerate is 30. It's weird but i'm sooo glad to have figured that out for myself. I've heard the same from other mamas on my lowcarb board who lc'd during pregnancy~if they stayed vlc they didnt get morning sickness.

Supplements~a good multi (it's not a prenatal, it's the one i always take), vite c 500, folate 1mg, jarrow max dha, a good d3 5000iu, chelated magnesium, calcium. I also use lots of himalayan sea salt and potassium salts on my food.

The jarrow max dha is the first fish oil that i've tried that doesnt give the dreaded fish burps, so Ill be sticking with it. smile.gif

is there any benefit to taking the liver raw compared to cooking it? We have liver for dinner sometimes and i always feel energized the next day.


Okay, thanks Google.  A read a doctor saying that nausea is caused by hypoglycemia. Oh, this is interesting!

 

"We know that pregnancy hormones dramatically worsen insulin resistance that is responsible for the condition, gestational diabetes. If insulin resistance is worsened, then reactive hypoglycemia is worsened. One of the biggest symptoms of hypoglycemia is nausea. So, in response to this, we have counseled our patients on the diet in pregnancy and have found a dramatic reduction in nausea. We recommend snacking every two hours in pregnancy."

post #52 of 115

Similar info, but from a perspective other than paleo/primal.

 

"Most of what we hear about morning sickness is that it’s normal and even healthy for pregnant women.  We’re given lots of tips for treating it’s discomforts–eating small, frequent meals, ginger, medication, etc.  But what if morning sickness could be prevented or eliminated?  In early pregnancy, a mother’s body is undergoing enormous changes.  Her stores of vital minerals and nutrients (such as magnesium) are being sacrificed for her baby’s first crucial weeks of development.  As alkalinizing minerals become depleted, perhaps her body is tipped into the acidic range of the pH scale?  For women who start pregnancy with already acidic bodies, this could be even more pronounced and uncomfortable.  Could morning sickness be stemming from that acidic environment?  Possibly?  It would be really cool to see some high quality studies asking these questions."

 

Seriously, this is the most interesting topic of my year.  I am so pumped to read more about it.

post #53 of 115
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Originally Posted by simplified View Post

Similar info, but from a perspective other than paleo/primal.

 

"Most of what we hear about morning sickness is that it’s normal and even healthy for pregnant women.  We’re given lots of tips for treating it’s discomforts–eating small, frequent meals, ginger, medication, etc.  But what if morning sickness could be prevented or eliminated?  In early pregnancy, a mother’s body is undergoing enormous changes.  Her stores of vital minerals and nutrients (such as magnesium) are being sacrificed for her baby’s first crucial weeks of development.  As alkalinizing minerals become depleted, perhaps her body is tipped into the acidic range of the pH scale?  For women who start pregnancy with already acidic bodies, this could be even more pronounced and uncomfortable.  Could morning sickness be stemming from that acidic environment?  Possibly?  It would be really cool to see some high quality studies asking these questions."

 

Seriously, this is the most interesting topic of my year.  I am so pumped to read more about it.


That's really interesting! I've never suffered from horrible MS, just a constant, low-grade nausea. I always thought I tended to being acidic (because of my diet). I'll have to do a little research ...

 

post #54 of 115

Moss, how do you count your carbs?  Do you have a chart or something to link to?

post #55 of 115
Thread Starter 
i have a nutrition app that i use to track carbs, fat, protein, cals. I used to use fitday but find that it's easier to use my app.

From what i understand, ms is all in the liver. Our bodies are making lots of extra hormones and it's up to the liver to dispose of them. If the liver is busy doing other things it doesn't get around to disposing of the extra hormones and that's what causes all the nausea. Anything that you can do to support your liver will help with nvp.

This thread should be required reading for anyone with nvp: www.mothering.com/community/t/618836/preventing-reducing-morning-sickness-and-hyperemsis-gravidarum-herbs-more
post #56 of 115

Interesting thread.  Maybe I should pick up some milk thistle.  An interesting note I picked up in one of the comments is that the one lady was on her 7th pregnancy and 6 of them have been nauseous.  That's about the same with me.  My first and maybe second pregnancies I wasn't unwell at all.  Then I was nauseous with all the rest.  Perhaps my liver never got up to par again after the first pregnancy. 

post #57 of 115

I have been loving my husband for making a huge salad for me before he goes to work everyday this week.  We have pertussis here so now I'm even more tired.  But that salad is the highlight of my day.  That and watermelon.

post #58 of 115
Thread Starter 

how's everyone doing? 

 

i'm at 12 weeks and feel so awesome/normal that i forget that i'm pregnant sometimes!  i really cant believe it~with my first, eating a "healthy" version of SAD (lots of whole grains lol) i was sooooo sick for 5 1/2 months, and then my feet swelled up so much i could hardly walk in the last tri.  Anyways, i'm so glad to be eating lc/paleo now, and cant imagine doing it any other way.  :)  i dont even get the hormonal surges that affect mood.  i imagine that having a totally steady emotional response to life is really good for the baby as they respond negatively to stress chemicals, etc.

 

anyways,

hope everyone else is having a great first tri, and as we go into the 2nd tri, i hope that everyone continues to do well

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post #59 of 115
I'm in month 9 of a paleo pregnancy and I 100% encourage you to go for it!!! No swelling, hemmeroids, stretch marks, illnesses, wacky sugar/iron levels or mood swings. and very minimal morning sickness and heartburn (for 2 weeks 33-35).


The science supports you - if anyone (doctor, MA, dh, etc) needs convincing there are so many great books and articles.

I have some links to great books if you want to poke around my unkempt blog http://thecavegirlcode.wordpress.com
post #60 of 115
Thread Starter 

hi Lizzie, welcome to mdc! :)  i seem to remember reading thru your blog a few weeks ago, and it's good to hear that your pregnancy is going great. :)  i've read in a few places that paleo mamas have an easier time with childbirth as well, so hopefully soon, you'll be able to tell us how smooth everything went! :)

 

my midwives are pretty relaxed, and havent really said anything about diet.  i'm sure in my area that they get all kinds of women eating all kinds of diets (there is a huge slow food movement around here, lots of locavores, veg*ns, and hopefully more paleos than just my family although i havent encountered any yet~lots of people who are gfcf, but not specifically paleo).  my iron was normal but on the low end, and i mentioned something about all the steak and ground beef i've been eating.  LOL, my midwife just said, yep, keep eating iron rich foods like those. 

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