Experts needed - help me interpret my chart please!

[SKJ2011]

I'm confused if I have already O'ed this cycle.  Here is my chart http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/SKJ2011

I think I O'ed yesterday because I had O pain and my cervical fluid went from very watery to creamy by the evening and my cervix was low.  I thought for sure my temp would be up today, but it wasn't.  I also have LOTS of EWCM today, but we DTD last night so it could be left over from that.  I tried to do kegels to get rid of the excess, so I'm not sure what I'm dealing with.  

This AM, I stared my natural progesterone cream, but now I'm worried that using it was a bad idea. Thanks for any thoughts!

(BTW, if I add tomorrow's temp as 97.3, which is what it was today, I don't get CH.  If I put it as 97.4, FF thinks I O'ed on CD 15)

Edited by SKJ2011 - 8/30/11 at 6:42am

[Jaimee]

Hmmm... your temp is marked disturbed on CD 15... was it earlier or later than usual? 

Based on CF and questionable temp pattern I would say either you have not yet O'd or you're experiencing a slow rise.  The temp dip on CD 14 followed by the spike on CD 15 would be convincing except for your continuing fertile CF and only slightly higher temps.  So your body may have attempted to O and didn't quite make it and is still trying now.  But if you're experiencing a slow rise this could account for continued CF and lower temps.  If your body has not yet responded to the increased progesterone your CF could remain wetter past O and your temps would slowly increase over a few day period.

So, we really have to wait this out.  If your temps dip back down a bit for a couple days, I'd say no O yet.  If they climb a bit over the next few days, I'd say you O'd around CD 14 or 15.  Either way, keep DTD through this time so that you are sure to have semen around in case that egg is still on its way.

As for kegels, wait a few hours and then really work those muscles for a few minutes.  Pretty much everything will come down and you should be able to get a clear CF observation the next day.  Also semen and eggwhite CF may look very similar, but they act different.  Semen will not stretch like CF and it will dry quickly on your fingers.  So try putting some of the fluid between your fingers and stretching.  Also, it will look different in the toilet water.  EW tends to ball up and slowly sink whereas semen will spread out and dissolve.

[SKJ2011]

Thanks Jaimee!  CD 15 my temp was at my usual time, but I was up to nurse about 1.5 hours before I temped.  

I think today is EWCM.  It has a LOT of stretch.  I really don't think I'll be able to seduce DH tonight.  I may have to take a night off and go for tomorrow.  I'm really worried that the progesterone cream will hinder O too.

[SKJ2011]

Well, DTD last night, but temp is the same today.  I took an OPK yesterday and it was negative.  Not sure what's going on.  I was really, really hoping to O early than last cycle b/c my LP has only been 8 days.  Grr.  

[Jaimee]

Sorry for the uncertainty in your chart... the progesterone cream could be drying up your CF prematurely.  Hopefully someone else can chime in about who has experience with the cream.  But if you are actually sticky today than it points more strongly to the fact that you O'd already or that it will be a bit longer before you gear up to O again.  If your dh needs a bit of break, it's probably safe to do so after today and then if your temp does not spike and you get another patch of fertile CF then go at it again.

It's not unusual to O in the late teens of your cycle.  My average O day is around CD 18/19.  When you O will not affect the length of your LP, so don't worry about that.  Maybe you'll get a nice spike tomorrow since you have dried up some today. 

[SKJ2011]

Well, on second glance, I'm still having EWCM.  We shall see what tomorrow brings.  

[Jaimee]

Ah ha!  Yes, that would make more sense.  Gotta seduce your dh again tonight and hope for that spike in the next couple days!

[SKJ2011]

So, what do you think about the +OPK on Sunday?  The one I took on Monday might have been positive too.  On Sunday, I used an IC and a digi so I know it was positive.  Monday's was nearly positive (only used IC).  Yesterday's was def. negative (IC and digi), but my urine was a little diluted.  Gonna take another today.  Do you think my body had an LH surge, but didn't O that time?

[Jaimee]

Well, my thought on OPK's is that they are not the most reliable tests for a lot of women.  I just don't put much stock in them.  Positive here, negative there, no positives, positives well after confirmed O... they are often useless for a lot of women.  Of course, for some women they work great.  Until you experiment you won't know which type you are!  But in the meantime, your CF will tell you what you need to know. 

[SKJ2011]

Thanks Jaimee.  I have some more info for you to analyze 

Yesterday, my temp was 97.3 at my usual time (430am).  When I woke up at 630 am, I felt hot and sweaty, but didn't temp.  During the day, my CF went from EW to creamy/sticky.  It was way less abundant compared to the previous day - I had none on my underwear all day, and my vag sensation was cold, not wet like the previous day.

Today, my temp was 97.7 and my CF has been sticky/creamy/dry depending on the moment.

So, do you think I O'ed yesterday or the day before?  I'm thinking it was somewhere in between Tuesday and Wednesday.  I'm mostly just curious on your thoughts.  We didn't DTD last night b/c I was tired and my CF was already sticky by the nighttime when we would have.  I hope that we covered our bases, but I know I won't know for sure for a couple of weeks.

Thanks for any of your expertise!

[Jaimee]

Well that spike coupled with your CF drying up is definitely a good sign of O.  But we'll need a few more temps to confirm.  How confident are you feeling about your CP observations?  It is unlikely that you'd have a LF CP on the day you O'd unless you checked it several hours after you O'd.... but it is still possible that you O'd earlier- like when FF thinks.  We'll just need to see some more temps to get a better picture of the overall pattern.  But sufficient to say, I don't think you're waiting to O any more.  The question is how many DPO are you... one or four?  Just keep the discrepancy in mind when you test.

Honestly, I would continue to DTD tonight and maybe tomorrow to really cover your bases.  That egg can live up to 24 hours after it is released, so getting some more sperm up there increases your chances if O happened yesterday, especially since you didn't DTD yesterday.  But if you don't get around to it, there should be sperm present b/c of all the EW you had going on during your previous BDing sessions. 

[SKJ2011]

Thanks for your thoughts.  I did a search of FF for two DTD patterns -> O-4 to O-1 with no DTD on O or O+1.  There were WAY less pregnancy charts vs. O-4 -> O-1 and O+1.  So, I will be the seductress again tonight 

As for the CP thing.  I try to check at 9pm every night and record what I feel then.  I'm not too confident about it at all.  Today it feels so low that I swear I could see it if I looked.  It wasn't that low previously.  It did feel more open when I marked open on my chart.  My CP is the most confusing sign to me.