Kewpie, good luck at your appt. today!
blue, hooray for getting the ball rolling! Have a great drive with your pup!
I'm just jumping in a thread crashing to send out big hugs to all of you ladies!!!
I know that i'm not going thru IF treatments anymore, and I never had to do IVF so i never felt like i could really chime in on the treatments because all i did was Femara/Menopur natural cycles. (though i hate that they call them "natural" cycles because 1)the nurse had to tell us when to DTD...how romantic, and 2) because those drugs going thru my body was not NATURAL it made me a monster) anyways, I want each and everyone of you to know that i look in here on a regular basis and I admire each and every one of you!!!! I hope that you all get your BFPs soon, and Kewpie: Get as much rest as possible. Hold onto those little precious babies and take care of yourself!!! :) From what my mom says about me and my twin brother you'll need all the strength you can get once they get here!!!
I would like to stay on here, really, seeing as those of you who responded to my thread don't feel like I'm an imposter at all...what a great bunch of women on here... You all were such a great source of support in my early IVF ventures, and I really want to see you all get your bfps! So I want to be here rooting for you!
So the more I'm thinking about it today, the more I'm feeling angry with my friend. Because even though I know that she might be feeling some of those things that have been discussed here with you all on this thread, how much would it take out of her to even just send me a text to say, "Thinking of you and I hope all is well". Because that is what I would have done for her. *sigh* I have this tendency to expect others to do things that I would do for them if the situation were reversed... and I just end up getting disappointed and even crushed, and then I get angry and bitter. And then I end up forgiving, and build up the hope and trust in the relationship, that the same kinds of things won't happen again... and then something else happens. It's been a 1 1/2 weeks since I told her, and I've heard nothing. Yet she can go on FB and write about making some stupid apple bacon pie for our Canadian thanksgiving. Isn't she wondering if I'm still pregnant? Isn't she concerned that I'm silently freaking out at least a couple of hours a day, when all is said and done, when you add up the times I feel twinges and heaviness and all the goo from the prometrium, thinking that I'm m/cing? Because she knows me very well, and would know that I am. She knows that in August, after a chemical pregnancy, we had an appointment with our RE and I was told that my m/c risk is 38-42%.
I'm so sad about it. I gave her so much support when she had her m/c in June-- it was DH's birthday, and she called early that am. Her DH had decided he couldn't risk being away from his new job that day, so she was alone. I spent the whole day with her, and then after I left her I went and stopped to visit another friend whose 9 year old daughter was palliative--who ended up dying just 20 minutes before I got there. Add in the fact that 2 days before that we were at the hospital for the evening with our DS who was 10 mos at the time, with a severe viral infection... our dog had been very sick with some sort of bacterial infection and was having IV drug therapy and home care (DH is a paramedic so our vet let us keep him with us--at first, we didn't think he was going to make it), PLUS for that whole week I had the Clomid Crazies. Needless to say, I dealt with all of this, didn't talk about it much with my friend so that it didn't take away from her painful situation... but I ended up having to debrief with the counselor I had been seeing at the time.
I keep thinking about the conversation in which I told her about my bfp. One of the things she said was, "Oh, well... it's still really early..." I may have taken it the wrong way, but I couldn't help but think, 'and the rest of your sentence would be, and anything can happen?'. But I let it go. And I let it go when she then went on to talk at length about her DH's new classes. It sure was a different response compared to the first time I told her about my bfp with my DS, after I had a m/c 4 months earlier. I don't know, maybe because it's the second time around, she thinks it's not a big deal for me? I'm thinking it's almost a miracle! She was at our DS's planned homebirth... we call her 'Aunty *L*' because she was there to share the most amazing experience of our lives.
Not sure what I'm going to do... DH and I are supposed to go to an event that she is doing, to support her... but I don't know if I have it in me because there is all this garbage going on!
Okay, that's my vent. I feel better now. I promise I'll get this out of my system so I'll have some more upbeat and 'new' things to share then.
I'll come on a little later and do personals-- some of you have a LOT of exciting things happening! And, I'd be happy to share the yummy Indian Butter Chicken recipe!
tenzin - After reading more about your friend, she sounds very selfish. After going through loss herself, she should know how you must be feeling. I know how scary being pregnant after a loss can be. Since I have PCOS, my RE told me that I have a high chance of recurrent m/c. He wouldn't give me a number, but when I googled it, I saw anywhere from 30% - 65%. It's so frightening to finally have what you want, feel like you SHOULD be happy, but actually be scared sh*tless. There is a group here on this site for those of us who are pregnant after loss. I used to post over there, but they don't seem entirely active anymore. If you want to, we could start it up again if it would make you feel better. I also have another site that I use a LOT for support. It's mainly a knitting site, but the group I'm in is extremely supportive, so even if you don't knit, they'd welcome you with open arms. That's not to say that you shouldn't post here, just saying that if you need more support from those who understand the fear of pregnancy after loss it's there for you.
My DH sometimes doesn't understand my need for online support cause he feels RL friends are better. I agree RL friends are important, but at least for me, being able to write out what I'm feeling is more therapeutic. Plus, you get a wider range of people to support you. Plus, I don't have any RL friends who have been through both infertility and loss. Just one or the other. I'm totally rambling here, but if you want the info for either, just let me know and I'll get them.
AFM - Appt went well this morning. Doc says that the next 6 weeks are crucial, but after I hit 30 weeks, we can start backing off the bedrest little by little every 2 weeks until 34 when he'll pull me off completely. So, this isn't going to be quite as long as I thought at first. DH and I made a list of places that have good takeout (chili's...IHOP and the like) so we have ideas for date nights at home. We have dates every friday without fail. So, I'll have at least one different activity to look forward to every week.
Feeling a little down today. Just got news of 2 of my close friends that are prego again. I am sure they are only 4 or 5 weeks, just POAS'd, but I really thought I would be prego before them. I mean I have been doing a year of the most technically advanced fertility treatments possible. I just don't know if I can take another failure...especially now, with EVERYONE I know being prego. My heart breaks, and I am honestly happy for them, just wishing I could get pregnant like a *normal* person. Then I start thinking my ectopic loss would be due in just 3 weeks had it implanted in the right spot. I feel like it will never be my turn again.
We also visited some family on vacation last week and one of them was about 10 weeks pregnant. She hadn't even been to an OB yet, she had a hard time fitting it in. I kept thinking must be nice to be so naive about loss. I would have already had several appointments by then. They were even buying things for the baby, I wish I didn't have a care in the world...
Oh Belly, my heart goes out to you... it's hard when days are like this. It's really, really hard, and then when you think that some people just have it so easy when it comes to having a baby... they can take fertility for granted, not to mention what you said about being naive about loss. Be kind to yourself. Keep the hope. Believe. I hope tomorrow is a better day. Must be so difficult with that anniversary date coming up, so I hope you have some nice treats in place for you. Especially as you get closer to another try.
Kewpie, so, so SO glad that things are looking the way they are. When it's broken down like that in terms of the time frame of bed rest levels, it sounds more manageable. Easy for me to say, though, heh? You seem to have cultivated nerves of steel in some regards with this pregnancy-- you just keep coping and Maisie and Liam just continue to do their thing-- I'm so happy about that! I was going to ask you, are you doing any reading on how you are going to do the sleep thing? How does that work with twins, if one is awake and fussing like mad and the other is trying to sleep... that's one thing I wish that I had looked into more-- approaches to getting your kid to sleep. For fun reading, have you read the book "The Help"? (Anyone else?) I've got a book that I want to start, it's Ami Mackay's "The BirthHouse" (I think that's what it is called). The knitting chat group sounds good to me, if it's already active... maybe it's just easier to do that one than have us get something going again on mothering? I think knitting would be a really good thing for me to learn to do, actually. Very therapeutic I would imagine, plus you have something beautiful at the end of it. (Well, maybe when one is just starting out it doesn't turn out so great... ha ha) About online support, it can be so helpful--especially when it comes to topics that aren't really discussed openly irl, which definitely seems to be the case with IF and things related to that. Thank you for your support!
Renavoo, TOTALLY frustrating that the nurse didn't get back to you about the transfer time. Wow, tomorrow is Friday already-- this is it, right? I've got everything crossed for you!!!
Deborah, good luck with things!
Blue, I'll grab the recipe and post it a little later. If I knew you irl I would pop over with some for you, along with some homemade treats for Abby. She looks like such a sweetheart in that new pic. Oh yeah, we could even have doggy playdates! You guys are going to be busssssyyyyyyy these next few days, yay for getting on with things!
Tear, thanks so much!
Tenzi - Can't wait for the recipe. I LOVE LOVE LOVE Butter chicken and when I crave it at times I have to order it with friends for lunch b/c DH doesn't like Indian food. I'd love to have you come over and have a doggie play date. Abby loves to play with other dogs. Too bad we weren't closer in distance. :o( Wow, that situation with your "friend" is really kinda sad. I do the same thing... "tendency to expect others to do things that I would do for them if the situation were reversed"... sometimes I think i care too much and wonder why others don't do the same. Who knows.
Renavoo - Good luck tomorrow. Hope you had a good & safe trip. Keep us posted!
Belly - just sending you lots of hugs today! Life is so not fair!!! Tomorrow will be better... it has to be!! It will be your day one of these days.
Kewpie - glad to hear your appt went so well. Hope these next couple weeks go by fast and I'm glad to hear that you have date night to look forward to!! Fun! I hope you have a tv in your bedroom. We don't and when i was pregnant i thought if i have to go on bedrest we are going to have to change that.
Brichole - thanks for stopping by and your kinda words.
Tear - Hope you and the babe are doing well. How old is she now. Hope you are getting more sleep by now. I'm hoping that the drive goes smooth. It'd be nice if she would sleep a lot of the way but then once we get there then I might have a terror on my hands. Good news is i just found out that "the aunt" has a treadmill so that is great b/c when the weather is yucky around here I have been running her on our treadmill so that is a good thing.
belly, i'm right there with you. when do we not feel heart broken? i came home from work last night and cried uncontrollably for two hours. nothing in particular set me off, just felt so sad. my husband feels bad and doesn't know how to comfort me, but really i don't think i can be comforted. of course later that night one of my best friends told me that she found out from an early ultrasound that they think she is having a boy... and on to more crying before bed.
kewpie, i agree with you about the comfort everyone online provides. i always feel terrible talking to my best friends about this. they know what's happening, of course, but i am always afraid to bring it up too much. one friend seems to get very distant, probably because she doesn't know how to handle my depression about infertility, and i know she's already or soon to be trying for a second child. another friend just had her third child and while she's very supportive i don't want to mope so much because i feel like i am taking away the joy she has for her own children. and of course two others are currently pregnant. i had been planning with my friend (who is having the boy) to be pregnant together since we were 15 years old. she's gone through a divorce and now in a new relationship and still managed to get pregnant before me. she keeps trying to make me feel better, but it went from "we will be pregnant at the same time!" to "i'll only be a few months ahead of you" to "well you can have all my infant clothes when my baby grows out of them"... it's the worst.
i finally made the appt to talk to my RE on tuesday. i am really afraid of what she will say. i have so many questions that i'm afraid she is going to think i've spent too much time on the internet and blow me off. i am curious if we can try IUI with donor sperm, since i feel like the more medicine they gave me, the worse my egg quality. but i'm also afraid they'll be like "sure we can try" but really it will just be a waste of time and money. i am also curious because when i went for my yearly physical at the end of my first ivf cycle, my dr mentioned that my white blood cell level was elevated. maybe i have an immunity issue? i also question if maybe i have pcos. i never had any cysts, but i do have many of the other symptoms. i've been reading that it is possible to have pcos without cysts. seriously, if i ask her these questions is she going to think i'm a lunatic and just shake her head at me? are these questions worth asking? how many more times do we keep spinning our wheels with IF treatments? if we went straight to ivf and it hasn't worked in two cycles, what other options are there?
belly - Hugs to you today. We all have days like that. I still do when I think about my baby that should now be 2 months old. Due date, timelines, and such are so hard. I hope the next 3 weeks move swiftly and aren't too hard to get through.
Tenzins - Nerves of steel eh? I think I'm mostly numb to a lot of things. I just plug along and then I break down later. I had a bit of a breakdown on tuesday when I thought about what *could* have happened this past weekend. It crushed me a little bit.
Knitting has been really great especially when going through treatments. The rhythmic movements allow me to kind of zone out or I can do an intricate pattern to keep my mind too busy to think. The site is Ravelry.com and you have to request an invite, (or at least you used to) but it usually comes within an hour. The pregnancy after loss group is extremely active and these women have become like sisters to me (much like here). If you do decide to join, look up foofyboo (that's me) by clicking on the "people" button at the top and then searching for my name. Send me a message and I'll help direct you to the group. If anyone else is interested in the group (or any others.. there are plenty for infertility and such) just let me know and I'll help you find it. If you would like to learn knitting, youtube is AWESOME for finding instructional videos. I actually have known how to crochet since I was about 8 yrs old, but wanted to learn knitting a few years ago and used youtube to teach myself.
blue - actually, our ONLY tv is in the bedroom. haha We watch a lot of netflix to wind down before bed and it just made sense to have our tv in the bedroom since we never watch it any other time. During the day, we're too busy to even have it on. I don't plan on letting the kids watch it much at all unless we watch as a family, so it'll probably stay in our room until we don't all fit in bed anymore. (gosh I hope to have that problem someday)
aura - I had a friend that I made deals with about pregnancy too. We've been best friends since we were 4 yrs old. Her oldest is 11 and her youngest is 7. Yeah... didn't work out so well. I think that's why online groups like this work so well cause they pair you up with others who are in the same boat. My husband will probably never understand, but at least he doesn't mind that I do it. As long as it's helpful, there's no harm IMO.
As for the PCOS, I have it (diagnosed at 17) and I don't always have cysts. In fact, more often than not, I don't. When I do get them, they are pretty painful, especially when they burst, but I've had many u/s that showed none. It's a very complex disorder and can be difficult to properly diagnose. I've actually been diagnosed twice, cause another doctor was second guessing the first. If you think you have it, I would get checked out.
I don't think she'll think you're crazy for asking tons of questions. I'm sure she gets that all the time. It's her job to answer them, especially since you've had 2 failed cycles.
AFM - I hope y'all don't get sick of hearing from me. :) I have caught up on sleep and have plenty of freetime.... lol
hi gals...hope i can join your group. i jus get my ET done last sunday (09/10/11), today is my 5 dp transfer, but i dont have any symptom as what other is having, no cramp but a slight breast tenderness, i am feeling super nervous and sad. i couldnt sleep well at night. jus wish to hear some symptom from you gals....
Hi everyone, just jumping on quick before work.
Renavoo, thinking of you today and sending super sticky vibes!!!! I know your transfer will go great and your embies will thaw perfectly! Keep us posted, and best wishes today!!!!!!!!!!
yoyonana, welcome! I don't think I had any symtoms besides bloating (from OHSS) with my fresh successful transfer. I think I have had more symptoms during my negative cycles...it's amazing how much your head can mess with you! Good luck!
Aura, so sorry you are down. This is the worst thing I have had to go through for sure. And the worst part is, for me, it never gets any easier. I would ask your RE every question you have! She owes you the answers and I am sure you are paying for her time!
Kewpie/Tear/Tenzi, I love having you guys around so much!!! Keep it up :)
Laggie, how are you doing?
Blue, the treadmill is funny!!! But very practical :) What a lucky puppy you have!!!
AFM, headed to work and then my lining check. I'll post later with results :) Hopefully good...I feel like I am WAY overdue for some good news. Oh, and I had to take DD to the doctor this week and while I was there I got the flu shot. Didn't even think about it till I got home, I never asked my RE. I'll ask him today, but I hope I didn't mess anything up!
Aura, you have every right to put the questions out there to your RE, and hopefully she will take enough to time to answers your questions as throroughly as possible. Hopefully after talking to her, you will gain some clarity about things. My RE always encourages us to write all our questions down and bring them with us when we see her, and we have larned that while on the outside she may seem all business and rather abrupt, she does have a kind heart. We've also found that it helps if DH and I sit down before we go, and talk about what we need to know. I generally take the lead in talking about things, but this way, if I get too emotional about something and I can't articulate, then he jumps right in and I can get my thoughts back on track. I also like it when he takes notes, because it seems that there is always something I forget when I get home.
Renavoo, today is the day! I am thinking about you, and sending you tons of positive energy and wishes.
Belly, good luck with your lining check today. You deserve some awesome news, for sure!
Tear, no, I haven't read The Help. I saw it at Costco, and wasn't there a movie just released? I'm so out of it when it comes to these things! I definitely will take your advice and not read it right now.
Kewpie, I'll definitely check out what you gave me about the group. PAL support will be helfpul for me right now, definitely. And about the nerves of steel, I think that what you said still qualifies you for having them, because it sounds like you do what you need to do to get yourself through the unsettling happenings, which means that you are definitely coping. And it's totally more than okay and understandable if you break down after it's over, because that means you are coping.
Blue, I will have to find that recipe and post later... couldn't find it stored in my laptop files, but DH has it and will send it to me.
Have to run, I've got to head off to my acupuncture appt.
hi ladies. having a difficult time with mothering.com today! I'm really worried that I'm going to lose what I wrote again so here goes nothing :o)
Thanks everyone, for the well wishes. DH and I got to MD all safe and sound (beat a nasty storm too!) and we're waiting for the transfer. It isn't until 3:15 so I'm going to get some acupuncture before then.
Belly and Aura, I really wish that I could give you two hugs. I am so with you about the disappointment and sadness that we go through when people that we have grown up with get pregnant before us. The worst are the ones who aren't even trying! But yes, while I feel good for them, there is always an inherent sadness that goes along with it. I am putting all my happy energy towards you two. Belly, soon, I'm expecting a BFP for you. And Aura, I can't wait until you get some answers and know your next step. I think you'll feel just a little better when you have some more direction. It won't make up for the complete pain that comes from not being able to get pregnant but maybe it will give you some peace as you try again. I think Tenzin is such great role model as to what we can achieve. No matter how bad it looks, no matter how sad we are, there is always hope.
Belly, how was your lining check!?!? I'm waiting with baited breath. I know it'll be great and you're ready for your embies to be transferred!
Tenzin, I can't conceive of how someone who you helped through so much is treating you so badly. I'm so sorry. You're such a wonderful giving person that you definitely don't deserve it. Perhaps a part of all this is karma...your friend seems to have a lot of negative energy. I hope that she manages to expel it so that she can also be on her way to getting pregnant. We all understand the hurt and pain of being unable to conceive..but there is no excuse for hurting a good friend who has been through so much with you. By the way, I cannot believe the line, "well it's still early." WHO SAYS THAT?! I know she's hurt but come on...that's definitely not a friend comment. I'm glad that you persevere!
Kewpie, YAH to the bed rest not being too bad or for too long! I mean, it still isn't great and I'm sure you'll go through bouts of boredom but there is a light (and two beautiful babies) at the end of the tunnel. And by the way, what a DH for being so amazing! I love that you guys have date nights!!
Tear, I'm happy that your DD is doing ok...it sounds like a worrisome situation so I'm sure you were worried! Fingers crossed that she continues to get better!
Blue, are you and Abby almost ready to go down to MI? Wow, time is flying for you too! hehe whenever I think of a treadmill and a puppy, I think of Cesar Milan and his dog training techniques! haha
YoYo, don't feel down! I hear that a lot of people don't experience any pregnancy signs! Just give it time.
Ok, I'm almost ready :o) I have acupuncture today at 1:45 and then I have to be at the clinic at 2:45 (the acupuncture place is in the same building as the clinic) The transfer is scheduled for today at 3:15. I don't know how the embies are doing because they don't thaw until close to the transfer time so my fingers are still crossed. Just trying to stay calm and hopeful!!
Big hugs everyone and I'll follow up after the procedure!
Wow, I just got home from work and this place has been busy today!!! I really should be packing, but sitting on the couch on MDC sounds like more fun right now. I have the rest of the weekend to pack.
Renavoo - So glad you got there safe and sound & missed the storm too. I hate driving in rain in cities you don't know that well. I'm hoping that the pup and I's trip on Monday will be smooth with good weather to. Keeping my fingers crossed and praying that all goes well with your FET. Keep us posted. LOL.. we actually did learn about the treadmill from Cesar with our last dog. He was really good at it and would get all excited after i finished my workout and the timer would go off he would jump on the treadmill all excited b/c he knew it was his turn to exercise. Hoping to get Abby that well trained too.
Tenzi - I love to try that recipe this weekend if you find it soon. Does it have curry in it? Mmmmmm... I'm hungry thinking about it now. Hope acupuncture went well. What do you do with your DS ( think you have a DS and not a DD but could be wrong) when you are there??
Belly - hope your lining check went well. I wouldn't worry about the shot.. I"m sure your RE will say it a good thing to do. Let us know how it goes.
Tear - wow, that is great that sleeps so well, but i'm sure the weight thing is a worry but i'm sure she will start to bulk up some here soon. Are you BF'ing her or supplementing. Hope things turn around here soon but if the dr isn't too worried I'm sure she is fine. You are just being a typical good worried mother!!!
YoYo- Welcome!!!!! I know with all the times I have gotten pregnant i never really felt much at all and thought both times that I wasn't pregnant at all so you never know. Keep you head high!!
Kewpie - I hope that you do over-fill that bed here one day!!!! I hope you have a king!!! We have a queen and if the pup sleeps with us i feel like we need a king. Good grief does she take up a ton of room with her legs all sprawled out and all. She is a bed hog!!! LOL Hope you are feeling well. How has this whole bedrest thing affected your sugars? Is it working okay?
Aura - I would ask all the question you need to and don't worry about it. I always go in with a list of questions b/c i will forget everything once i get in the room with the dr if it isn't written down for some reason. Then you always think of questions on your way home after seeing the dr too and kick yourself for not asking while in there with him. Drives me nuts. I think you will feel much better after having that appt and hopefully it will calm your nerves too. Sometimes we just expect the worst when it really isn't as bad as we think. Keep us posted. Hope it goes well!! Is DH going with you or just you?
rcr - how are you doing?
How are the other graduates doing??? Keria, Bungalowmama,Lyndiramos and who-ever else i have missed I know there are more of you out there and I'm drawing a blank on names right now & don't want to try and look back or I'll lose all that I have typed. - You know who you are!!!!!
Thanks for replying everyone.
My surgery: Key hople surgery is when they use a tiny camera to do the surgery so they only have to make a couple of tiny incisions instead of opening you up. It's suppost to be easy and involve a short recovery 1-7 days sick. The surgery is to reduce the scaring on my ovary from when they removed my other ovary (which incidently they told me wouldn't affect my fertility ). The ovary is adheared to the uterus so if you not be reached for egg retirval in IVF.
I'm hoping to start with IUI it all depends on if my tubes are clear or scared.
I can get the op and possibly the dye test to see if my tube is open on the NHS if I wait till Jan (or later I was suppost to have it in Aug ). But I don't know if I want to wait that long now I know my egg reserve is low. Why is this game always about waiting!
Kewpie hope you and your babies are OK.
Hope eveyone else is doing OK and lots of luck. I think of you often and check in when I can.
I'm on bedrest now :o) I transferred 2 embies. My embies both thawed well (>95%, according to the embryologist) so that's good. I'm just a little concerned because neither of them were hatching and they were 6 day blasts. But oh well, it is out of my hands now! And I'm really really happy that they thawed well. Also, apparently, for frozen embies, the clinic automatically does assisted hatching so that is good.
Blue, haha pack the night before! That's what I did...for this trip, I packed the day of. Of course, you're going to be there for a while so I guess more thought needs to be going into you packing. But yah to enjoying the weekend!
Silverbird, ugh to the surgery but I am happy it's not as invasive!! However, any surgery isn't fun. As for it being a waiting game, what you say is so true!! I feel like it's a complete waiting game too. I hope you don't get too stressed about the delay. January isn't too far away although I'm with you...I don't even want to wait weeks, much less months.
Ok back to lying down. Hugs everyone!!
Renavoo, yay for great sounding transfer!!!!! I just knew they would thaw well. When is your beta? The 24th or do they do them on the weekends for you? I am sure those frosties are hatching and looking for the perfect place to snuggle in :)
Blue, I used to always pack super early, but now it is the night before! How exciting that your cycle is really getting going. We will probably be transferring around the same time? I transfer in 2 weeks, so maybe a little before you?
Silver, that sucks you have to wait till January for your procedures :( Time is funny though, it always seems like it is taking forever until you look backwards. I hope the time goes quickly for you and your surgery goes well.
AFM, Just got back from my lining check. It was ELEVEN, and a triple stripe!!! I can hardly believe it, but it looked much thicker on the screen than I have ever seen before so I knew it was better than my previous best of 8mm. I joked with the RE about moving up my transfer to next weeek, but he said I wouldn't be ready by then. He told us before during our consult he would like to see me get to a 9-10mm lining, so I am not sure what happens during the next 2 weeks. I hope it doesn't disappear or die or anything? He seems to know what he is doing, so I will just do as he says. Although, I was rather annoyed that I had to wait 35 minutes in the exam room before he finally came in...I know ER's can be unexpected so I am assuming that is what happened.