Originally Posted by akind1
Birth plan sounds good - have you checked w/ hospital protocols too (JIC, as sometimes some lines in a birth plan aren't needed because they are a standard of practice, while others may not be able to be accomodated at all - like what you are able to eat and drink)
I might have something in there about - if it is needed - daddy (or you if you are able) needs to stay with baby at all times should she need to go to the nursery, etc.
Also, who do you want in the room with you - anyone in particular to exclude? Are you ok w/ students, etc? Also go in to the discussion knowing which things you may allow wiggle room on, and which not. (the saline lock for example, is something I consent to - I'd rather them have the access in case, then try to get it later, when I may be in the middle of a contraction or something and it be much harder to do - plus it won't limit my mobility at all)
I didn't see anything in there about monitoring - do you know what they tend to do? continuous, intermittent, internal?
We actually had 2 plans - one for me and one for the baby.
This time, because I know the hospital, and also kind of not what can go wrong, per se, but that birth may not be ideal, etc, I have contingent plans. Much as I didn't want to, I do have some lines in mine about things I'd like should a c-section become necessary. And also, should interventions of any sort be needed, kind of a run down on what I'd like to try first, and what would be a last resort. (like if labor does seem to stall, lets try movement and position changes first, then depending on where in labor I am, if water hasn't broken, willing to do AROM? etc.)
Oooh good ideas. I added in both about dad staying with baby and the students- I don't mind students, but I specified that for every student in the room, I want one less "regular" person. I think it's good that they learn about natural birth, but not at the expense of me feeling like a zoo exhibit, you know?
They typically have you on the monitor while you're in triage (about an hour when you get there), and then only seem to put it on if it's been a while, or you're showing signs that concern them. I did originally have it in the plan that I declined continuous monitoring, etc etc, but I decided to take it out. One of the things I've been told is to make the plan as short as possible, and take out anything you don't need permission for (ie I'm just going to eat, not ask if I can eat, and I'm going to move around, not ask if I can- I'm just going to do it). So I took that part out- I figure if they come in and tell me to lay down so they can do a monitoring strip, I'll ask them at that time to bring the doppler and do it that way instead, you know?
The saline lock for me is non-negotiable. I have a terrible anxiety over needles, and I can almost guarantee that having one in will stall my labor. If they fuss (which the OB didn't seem to, we'll see!) then I'll tell them that in an "emergency" they can leave the freaking room and DH can put one in for me. This has been in my head for years, ever since I read this passage (it's part of an article called "deep doula thoughts, or- things that make you go hmmm")
10. You need an IV in labor…just in case something goes wrong, we MUST have access to your vein!
Rather than question this statement, I’m simply going to relay what happened with some students I taught a childbirth series to many years ago. He (the expectant father) happened to be an EMT-Paramedic. This couple was doing a hospital tour so that they could become familiar with the hospital they intended to have their baby in. The nurse showed them the triage area, then showed them the labor and delivery rooms, explained that this is when they would get their IV…
The EMT dad said, "Umm, what if we don’t want an IV?"
Nurse replied, "It’s standard…what if something goes wrong? We must have access to your vein and what if it takes a while to get the IV started? It can be difficult sometimes to get it started…what if we can’t get it started and we’re trying to get an IV in while your baby is having problems??"
The EMT dad looked her straight in the eye and said, "Are you telling me that I can start an IV in the field, at night, in the rain, inside a vehicle that has been flipped over on a patient who is critical and bleeding out…and you are concerned about starting an IV on my healthy wife in your brightly lit hospital??? That frightens me."
Hee hee. I’ll just let that story sit with you for a while.
Anyways, I'm definately going to go through a longer list with DH and my doula for, exactly like you said, the choices between certain interventions, things like that. I just don't want that stuff to bog down the list that the hospital gets, you know?
Originally Posted by MarineWife
JJ ~ That looks good. The only other thing I can think of is to read every single word of every form that you have to fill out for the doctor and the hospital and cross out, initial and date anything you do not consent to because there is usually a blanket statement in there saying that you consent to any and all medical procedures the doctors deem necessary for you and your baby. I think since that's a legally binding paper it would cancel out anything you had in your birth plan. Then make sure you tell everyone what you have crossed out. I don't think hospital staff regularly looks at those forms because they are so routine so they wouldn't necessarily know that you did not consent.
Definately. DH and I have already agreed not to sign the general consent form. I htink that's going to cause waves, and we've decided not to bring it up yet. I don't want to spend the next 2.5 months fighting with the dr over it since there isn't really anything she can say to change our minds.
Anyways-- that said, the appt went well. DH and I laughed the whole way home about how much of a pushover she is. I don't think she's confident enough to really stand up to most of our choices. The only thing we said is that I can see her jumping to a c-section earlier than normal, but I'm confident about DH and I's ability to stand up and say no, we don't feel it's warranted yet. But she did glance over the plan, and the only thing she pointed out at ALL was the line about the episiotomy- giving the usual line about how sometime they are warranted when baby isn't wanting to come out... etc etc. So basically we know we'll watch her at that time, but other than that-- as I said, I think we can get our way :)
Originally Posted by MarineWife
those are beautiful pics, kat! you always look so pretty.
Agreed! That makes me so excited to do mine now! You look very... peaceful and just happy. I love it.
Originally Posted by akind1
I need to add bassinet sheets to my list of things to buy. I think mostly we are getting gift cards at this shower on Sunday - because MIL told people to get us that. I don't mind gift cards, honestly, but I didn't create a registry for my own enjoyment (ok, partly, it IS fun to walk around and create a wish list ;)) but also, so people have some idea of what we want, and buy that. grr. DH and I are pretty much convinced that MIL is only doing the shower because her family kind of pushed her into it. I just wish she'd show a little more enthusiasm over this baby. Now, FIL is excited, and is obvious about it.
Anyway - it's nice and crisp here, hope everyone is enjoying similiar fall-ish weather!
We picked out fabric for our crib blanket! It's a plain white minkee fabric. Soo soft. And it's nice because then we're going to do pink sheets, a valence, and accents, then still have the grey walls, so it won't be like walking into the room and going WHOA PINK! Several of the accents are black as well, so it will be girly, but tone it down.
We do need to work on a sheet for the pnp bassinette too. MIL is going to make it, but I can't decide what fabric/color to use. The pnp itself is like a sage green, so I might just get her to do basic white cotton. Part of me wants to do the white minkee, but I think that might be too hot. I'm not worried about it for the blanket since a/ baby won't use a blanket the first bit when they're too little to pull it off themselves, and b/ the baby's room is cooler than the rest of the house, but the pnp will be in our room or the living room, which are warmer.
And I'm LOVING the fall weather. I'm a summer person, through and through. I don't deal well with cold. But I have so many more cute maternity pieces for fall, so it's nice to have choices about what to wear again.
That said, jumping in on the postpartum clothing discussion- I'm already planning on going to value village just before baby is born and stocking up on super comfy sweats/fleece pants/pj pants- something stupid like five pairs. I figure if I wear/ruin two in the labor/birth/immediately postpartum period, that's fine, but then I have other options for around the house. I also bought a bella band when I was in the states, so I'm hoping to use that with some of my regular clothing. But- for the first bit, it'll be freezing cold here, so I'm going to get away with sweats.
Originally Posted by MarineWife
i'm glad to know the empire waist doesn't always look good. i was worried there was something wrong with me. it seems to be really popular now, at least with designers. returning the stuff is kind of a pain but i've figured out how to pay shipping and print labels online so i don't have to go to the post office.
on that note, i have a ton of yarn and nothing to knit. i have at least 8 pairs of small longies for D. i can't make shorties for next year b/c i don't know what size he'll need. i just finished a shirt for E. i have yarn to make some for K but it's from the same dyer. i kind of want to use another dyer's yarn now. what to do?
I had the empire waist problem BEFORE getting pregnant. I was skinny, but carrying extra weight around in my belly- so I worried wearing stuff like that, that it looked like a baby belly. So I can see how afterwards it would make you not feel so hot either.
I've got yarn too, and I'm out of ideas. I never really love the way my sweaters/pants turn out, not to mention I don't need any more of them. Or any more blankets, or any more hats. But I've got quite a bit of misc baby yarn, and can't figure out what to do with it. I'm making a pair of booties right now (that I, again, don't need...) but I can't seem to find a good pattern, so I've torn them out about three times and restarted with a new one. I really just want to use up my existing yarn so I can go get wool to attempt a soaker. Any idea for OTHER items? I think after I tackle these booties, I'm going to make a bib. It's not really the right type of yarn, but oh well.