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post #1 of 50
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Hey ladies-
This is a bit embarrassing but I wanted to check in. I've been dealing with PPD for 8months. I'm working with the meds, exercising, etc. It's been such a struggle. Lately I've been drinking more than I'd like. I'm not talking about bottles, just a couple extra glasses. It's just so easy to do when you feel down. It's hard to admit all this but I need to let it out. Is any one else struggling with this? Any suggestions on how to back away from the alcohol? With the PPD I don't seem to have too much willpower.
THanks for reading. Please don't think I'm a horrible person. I'm just struggling and looking to make changes.
Chrissy
post #2 of 50
You say you're drinking more than you'd like. Have you had problems with alcohol before? You are not a horrible person- you are a brave person to ask for help. Many people can't have chips, cookies, candy, etc. in the house because they have trouble controlling eating those things. Maybe if you didn't have easy access to alcohol...?
((hugs))
post #3 of 50
I would recommend getting the amino acid L-glutamine.Get the capsules and when you get the craving(whether it be alcohol,pot or sugar)you break it open under your tongue.Check out the book Mood Cure.It saved my life when i had PD.
post #4 of 50
Thread Starter 
Thank you both for writing. I really appreciate it. It was so hard to write those words and I so completely need support right now.

I don't know if I've really had a problem with alcohol before. It seems like I have a larger problem with willpower. I'm forever going to change my life--stop drinking, start eating better,etc--and it's so easy for me to stay strong in those committments to myself. I'm sure that's part of the depression too.

I don't feel like I crave alcohol. I don't drink at home. I pretty much only drink when I go out to dinner or I'm over at a friend's house. Then even if I say, "I'm not drinking tonight", I go ahead and drink. And I've been out a lot this week. Last night I drank a lot, too much. So, twice this week I was drunk. And actually, that's highly unusual for me. Mostly, I'll just drink 2-3x a week, 2 glasses of wine. But how do I stay away from alcohol entirely?

I'm so discouraged with the PPD weighing down on me. I've felt so terrible for so long. I know alcohol won't help but I'm tired of this seemly unending struggle. I can't believe how bad this is. I can't believe it goes on, and on, and on.

I did say, after last night, that I'm not drinking anymore. The question is, how do I keep that committment?? Help!:

AND THANK YOU FOR WRITING!!!
Chrissy
post #5 of 50
If you've vowed to quit drinking completely, I think there will be many times ahead when you'll need to restate your decision- to yourself and to others. Hopefully your friends will support you, since it sounds like they'll be around when you're choosing non-alcoholic drinks.

If you think you might try to just cut back, then you can set yourself a limit, like one drink with alcohol- and choose the
beer, wine, or mixed drink you like best and drink something else
the rest of the evening. Again, it would help to have the support of your friends. (And ask your doctor or pharmacist about alcohol and your medication.)

You don't need alcohol to have a great/wild/fun time. And if you regret things the next day, well, that doesn't help things overall for you. Are you satisfied with your doctor's help? Are your friends and family generally supportive?

Things will get better for you.
((hugs))
post #6 of 50
First off drinking makes depression worse.You need to find things that make you feel good but don't involve drinking.I was there in the deepest,darkest depths of depression last summer.I picked myself up,changed my diet and started exercising.It was hard.I cut out sugars and bad carbs and joined a gym.One year later i am 75lbs lighter and a whole new person.I gained my self confidece,felt more energized and i am now able to really enjoy being with my kids.I even started online courses.I feel good and i feel happy which is not something i have felt in a long tiime.

I recommend exercising.Yoga,walking anything to get moving
Taking fish oil supplements and a womens blend of oils(containing evening primrose and rosemary)will help you to fight the depression and balance your horomones naturally
Bach Rescue Remedy~when you feel down or anxious this stuff is awesome

Find someone who you can talk to.
post #7 of 50
Ditto all of the above.

Taking vitamin C and vitamin B, especially Brewer's Yeast in orange juice - this will boost your energy and mood. Drinking and PPD - two separate problems that will accelerate each other.

Get plenty of rest and the glutamine idea mentioned above - excellent.
post #8 of 50
Thread Starter 
Thank you all, again, for writing. I really need the support.
Here's what I decided to do. I'm not going to drink for the next 6weeks. After 6weeks, I can decide if I want to just skip alcohol for good or if I'm o.k. just having a drink. Right now I don't think I've got the strength to either 1) commit to never drinking again or 2) just stop at one drink each and every time. So that's my plan. I've told 2 of my friends about it. I think they'll help keep me accountable. I've got good friends. None of them would care if I didn't drink. I guess I just go along cause it seems like the path of least resistance. Of course, now I know that path is a path of danger for me.
Ravenmoom-thank you for sharing your story of transformation. It does give me hope that I can come out of this and PPD much stronger and happier. It's hard for me to believe that a lot of the time.
I'll check into those remedies. I've got the fish oils and the rescue remedy already.
Right now I feel pretty good. I think this whole episode with drinking last night really helped, actually. I took myself to the brink and now I see clearly what's good and beautiful in my life (family, friends, health, laughter, sunshine, love). I do have a good life. And I have to get over this PPD. Alcohol's only getting in the way of my recovery and right now I desperately want to recover.
Chrissy
post #9 of 50
Chrissy, I highly recommend taking the "no drink" option. Why taunt yourself with one drink. I have a big issue with sugar right now (I just crave it) and that would be like saying that I can have one M&M. No way is that going to happen.:

Having come from an alcoholic household where the abuse was understated (a few beers or a six pack every night) I can say that it wasn't a fun place to grow up. My dad may never have been physically abusive, but he wasn't nice to be around when he drank and he wasn't the father I'm sure he wished he had been. It was very understated and our relationship suffered for a long time because of it. If you feel like this may be a problem for you, then it is a problem.

Maybe if you can give up alcohol, I can give up sugar. Yikes, that's a scary thought. This might not be easy for you, but I think you will feel better both physically and mentally.

Good luck, and keep us posted. We can hold you accountable too.:LOL
post #10 of 50
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Jish-
Thank you. I know sugar's a hard thing to give up. I've cut way back on the sugar myself. I never thought I could do that! I love, love, love coffee with loads of sugar and cream. But, now I don't put one single drop in my coffee! And I think in the end, cutting back on sugar will make me feel better. Already when I had a piece of cake this week, it didn't tasta that good to me. And it's only been about a week since I started cutting back! YOU CAN DO IT!
Thanks for your thoughts about alcohol in your family. My husband, unfortunately, drinks TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much. My son deserves better from both his mom and his dad. I don't want to contribute to the problem. I think that once I get thru the next 6 weeks, I'll be feeling a lot better and not really mind not drinking at all. I think the hardest thing will just be going out with people. Alcohol is such a large part of our culture. Most of my friends drink socially. I've just gotta get over caring what they do and make the best choices for myself and my family, right? I'm almost 33. If I don't go my own way now, I never will. So far so good. I do promise to write you all if I drink in the next few weeks. So now I've got lots of people holding me accountable
Chrissy
post #11 of 50
In addition:

this may sound weird, but I ate lots of chocolate after the birth of my 4th and last baby. I had had bad PPD with the first three children. I never liked chocolate, but eating and drinking it after his birth kept my mood up.

Maybe it was the sugar in the chocolate? Maybe it was the chemical that raises your mood (forget what it is called that is in chocolate- ?) Something that raises your serotonin levels?

Anyway, I did not have PPD with my youngest . Perhaps it was the chocolate, or maybe the experience I had with the other three or just my age -or- I do not know - ?

I did NOT lose my pregnancy weight with him either, if that makes a difference.
post #12 of 50
Chrissy, you are not alone. One of the ways I tried to "deal" with PPD was by drinking too much. It's a vicious cycle because over-drinking feels very good temporarily but results in feeling worse the next day and beyond b/c you aren't treating your body right. So then you feel crummy and want to feel good for a little while and so you drink again.

The worst thing for me is that I noticed that 1-2 drinks would no longer make me feel as good so I started having 3 most every night and more some weekends. Then I'd think "oh my gosh, that's too much" and vow to stop, but it'd only last for a couple days. Of course, I was doing this when I was refusing to take antidepressants because of what they would do to my body. Ha! Finally I realized the utter irony of self-medicating with alcohol, which only made matters worse, while eschewing antidepressants.

It's to the point now that when I have one drink I can't "shut down" the urge to have more. So I pretty much have to have none instead of "just one" - at least for now. Maybe if I can do it for long enough I can "unaddict" myself somewhat.

A few days ago I gave alcohol up for two weeks in conjunction with reading the "Get With the Program" fitness book. I did it for 2 weeks because I have 2 major social events coming up and I know it will be so hard to see everyone else drinking. Who knows, maybe I'll decide not to drink. But I recognize that I don't want to set myself up for failure and end up with an "oh well, can't do it so I guess I'll go back to my old ways" mentality. So I'm giving myself to choose whether to drink on those 2 occasions but after that I'll probably go back to none.

My husband also likes to drink so it's really hard to see him do it and not partake. I have stopped buying alcohol most of the time or I'll buy something he likes but I don't. He drinks more than I would like him to, but he doesn't have an addictive personality so I don't worry as much about him. I do, so I know I have to watch out. If you can limit your access then do so. And if you're drinking when you go out to eat, pay close attention to the ridiculous amount they charge for drinks and think "now is it worth $20+ for us to have a couple drinks apiece?"

Everyone always suggests lots of things you can do to help with depression, but when you're in the midst of it, it can be so hard to get up and do anything. If that's happening to you, it could be that you need to up your meds a little bit or have extra therapy sessions or something till you're able to find a little more motivation. Or pick ONE thing that you'll do right now to help you feel better, and when your ready you can consider adding to that. Like instead of saying "I need to exercise 5 times a week" you can choose to go to the gym one time and decide if you like it. Or rent a special movie just for yourself. Whatever. Just one little thing for yourself, and see how it goes from there.

Remember, as I saw Oprah explain once, addiction is addiction whether you're addicted to alcohol, shopping, gambling, food, sugar, or whatever. You're no worse or better than anyone else struggling to control something they're too fond of. Most everyone has some weakness. You are not a horrible person, and you are less alone than you might think.

Good luck.

Carol
post #13 of 50
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Juice-Are you suggesting that I should EAT MORE Chocolate? I love ya! What a beautiful idea! I have heard that there's something in chocolate that is a mood elevator. If only my MD would write me a prescription for that!!:LOL It is interesting that it worked so well for you.
EllasMama-Thanks so much for sharing your story with alcohol. I can't tell you how much it helps to have another mother understand the struggle directly. I've totally done what you've done before. I've thrown up my hands and said THAT'S IT. I'M NEVER DRINKING AGAIN...only to start up again in a few days, at the next party. Maybe finding this space can help you too. I do feel inspired from all the good feedback I've been getting. I do think you've got a good point too. Why would we want to spend all that $$ on something that only makes us feel bad in the end? I'd much rather save those $$ and get a massage!! Please keep writing and stay strong. You're on the right path and I so appreciate your feedback.
My husband's working on cutting back too. He's trying to quit smoking. As the smoking decreases, so does the alcohol so I've got some hope there too!
So far so good ladies for me. No drinking and no desire. My trigger days this week will be Wed. when I'm out with my girlfriends and Friday when we have date night. I'll keep you posted and any more suggestions and stories are truely appreicated!
Chrissy
post #14 of 50
SpiralChrissy, just imagine everyone who posted here is 'partying' with you Wednesday night. We want you to have fun AND treat yourself well. (And we'll be looking for your post Thursday morning!)
post #15 of 50
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Hey Ladies-
I did just fine. No alcohol on Wednesday night! :
I told a good friend of mine who hosted last night that I wasn't drinking. She was my backup...but I didn't even waver. Tuesday night my DH and I went to a movie theater/bar and, although a beer looked good, I didn't partake. It's really helping to have you all here and know I'm accountable to a great group of women. Can I keep checking in with my trigger points, etc?
Ellas-how's it going for you??
Chrissy
post #16 of 50
I'm definitely prone to drink too much when I'm down about things. I've never dealt with PPD, and for that I count myself lucky, but I do go through periods of what is probably depression, just feeling off and not very motivated. It starts with a six-pack in the fridge on Tuesday night. I'll have one or two, three or four the next night, and while I never drink more than that on a "school night", it feels like too much. I go through periods where I will overindulge one night a week or so, and it just creates a cycle. I feel embarrassed and ashamed because I drank so much, so I drink a little more the next night to mask those feelings.

My dad is an acoholic, in the way that Jish described. He drinks about a six-pack a night, every night. There was never any abuse in my family, physical or otherwise, but it is hard to connect with people when you maintain that level of inebriation. I find myself drinking the most when I am not connecting with other people or when I am trying to connect with others. It always fails.

I think the six week thing is a good idea. I don't think that everyone who drinks is an alcoholic, but some of us are more prone than others. My husband and I both are. I just wanted to let you know that you aren't the only one and this doesn't mean you are a horrible person or mother. We live in a very complicated world, one where mothers and family aren't valued as they should be. It is easy to get down on ourselves and the world, and alcohol offers an easy, albeit temporary, escape. The truth is, as you've figured out, it only makes things worse.
post #17 of 50
SpiralChrissy, that is great news! Congratulations! (And three cheers for your dh and friend who helped!) Keep us posted.
post #18 of 50
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So ladies-
I'm doing good. Wanted to drink last night, due to stress, but just had mineral water in a wine glass and felt wonderful!

For those of you who, like me, turn to alcohol I'm just just wondering what we can do about it. How else can we take care of ourselves without the drinking? It seems like what we need to do is find a way to replace something better, something more positive than alcohol when we're feeling blue. Do you agree? Any suggestions? For me, I know that I drink 1)in social situations, especially if I'm feeling shy or nervous and 2) if I'm overly depressed. So, I'm just trying to come up with some alternatives. What do y'all think???

Chrissy
post #19 of 50
I've been avoiding this thread because it hits too close to home. SpiralChrissy, I really admire you for posting this thread. I couldn't have done it.

I am going through some sort of depression/anxiety thing myself & though not a drinker by anyone's standards, find myself wanting to turn to it as a stress relief, as well. (I know that it doesn't work that way . . .) It scares me, as I have a family history of both mental illness and severe alcoholism on both sides of my family. Thankfully, DH has none of that and doesn't drink at all.

It's just so easy--that feeling of being slightly tipsy--makes all the troubles fade away for a little bit. I never have more than one drink, but I am small, and that's all it takes . . .

Anyway, I happened to catch Oprah the other day--weird because I NEVER watch it. And, it is about MOMS who drink--is it a problem or not!!! I taped the show & watched it. It really was informative & powerful to say the least. The gist of it is that if you have to make rules for yourself--like I'll only have one drink, or I'll only drink on even days, etc., that alcohol IS an issue for you. People without alcohol issuues wouldn't even think like this (rule-making).

It was a pretty good show & I still have it on tape. I know it is kind of weird, but I'd be happy to mail it to you. You can use a fake name & a friend's address (or a business address) if you are uncomfortable. PM me if you want.

Hope you are doing OK. I think you are very brave.
post #20 of 50
I am so glad you are attaining your goals!!

I just wanted to add that at my other board, The Mood cure has also been touted as a wonderful book!
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