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post #141 of 165

Hi there, so glad you came back to post! You're right, a bathroom is not ideal, but it might be the only place you can find. I hope you have luck asking around the other businesses! Just to double check, the coffee shop isn't a part of a larger corporation/company? Because if it is, then the Federal Pumping Laws apply to them, even if your little shop you work at only has a few employees. 

 

I guess I see a few different things you have to think through with this:

  • Where to pump? Looks like you already have this in the works. If you do have to pump in the bathroom, be sure to have some good soap/purell/etc. Is there a table in there to place your pump on ? DO NOT worry about blocking the bathroom from others who want to use it. Seriously, your baby getting fed is important enough that the customers can hold it for 15 extra minutes. 
  • Pumping quickly and efficiently: Take a look at the Kellymom storage guidelines, and you'll see that breastmilk can sit out in room temp for quite a while and still be good to use, even longer if it's in an insulated bag. So, I recommend that you just keep your pump parts together all day at work, and just disassemble it at home to wash. This saves a ton of time. 
  • Keeping up your supply: For me, I just try to make sure my output = River's input every 24 hour period. So if I don't pump enough at work, then I pump at home too. 
  • Making enough milk for Jack to have each day: I pump 3 times a day at work, but River eats a lot more often than that. But it's ok because I pump more than he eats in one feeding. If you don't make enough milk while at work, you can pump at home (sounds like you plan to do it in the am, that's good) even at night. Just don't rely on your freezer stash to supplement too much, or you'll risk lowering your supply.
  • Comfort: If you find that you aren't pumping enough at work, but you pump the rest at home, Jack will have plenty to eat. But you might find yourself getting uncomfortable at work by going so long without pumping. Maybe you can sneak in another 5 minute break to do a quick hand expression. 

 

Anyway, those are my thoughts. You can totally do it, just be very assertive in keeping to your pumping schedule. I know that people in the customer service industry can be expected to skip a break or extend their hours a bit here and there, so be strong about it. And definitely come back here for support! 

 

Also, I love this website and recommend that all working & pumping moms read every single page, she has great advice.


Good luck going back to work, and definitely post some pics. Your profile pic is cute but it's so small, we can't really see that cutie of yours! 

post #142 of 165

a big yes to everything cat said!

 

i had to learn the hard way not to skip a pumping session (clogged ducts are no fun)

is there ant other possibility (back of the kitchen etc)? I am now sharing my pumping space w 2 other mamas and sometimes we r all on the same schedule so here is what i do not to feel too exposed:

- wear a cami that is loose up top so i can access my breasts from the top - this covers my mid section

- i use a hands free bra so i can cj=heck emails on my laptop, this effectively keeps me working so i do not feel like i take too much time

- i also do what Cat suggested, give the pump parts a quick rinse in between and stick them in the fridge but wash them at the end of the day.

- i also found that having two sets of parts (flanges etc) works great, leaving one set home one set at work...(this happened after an unfortunate day of hand expressing two painful breasts since i was late to pump anyway)

- recently realized that i can skip the bra, put on a nursing tanktop under my shirt and the openings work good enough to keep the flanges in place and free my hands

 

if there is another place option, you can cover the whole set up with a nursing cover, and if people (co workers) must come through the area you are at - no worries they cannot see a thing (of course not saying this is ideal either but I would prefer this over the bathroom)

 

 

here is how i felt the first day i was back and pumping:

- panicky and a little shaky

but now, i do not even worry about it. the first day will be all new and tiring, so do your best to get through it - dont worry about making sure you are prepared to a perfected pumping experience! That will come in time (say 2nd week?) and in a month you wont even think about it before going through the motions.

 

when I come home, putting the daily produce into fridge makes me feel very productive!

 

you can do this!! The group of ladies on here collectively have been through any scenario imaginable, we are here for you, and we will learn a lot from  your experiences too so keep in touch, let us know how it goes!

 

 

 

 

post #143 of 165

thanks for the responses :)

 

to clarify - yes, we really are just a small ma-and-pop operation, no bigger corporation.  the space is really small.  the bathroom door is literally the only door in the entire space - everything else is divided by curtains.  in the years that i've worked there, we've had to rearrange numerous times in order to simply have enough space to store the store's stuff.  there is currently a little nook between a fridge and a table that is mostly out of the way - i had considered whether using a nursing cover would provide enough coverage?  even if i asked them to hang a curtain, there'd only be a piece of fabric between me and the public.  but if a nursing cover would work, i am perfectly comfortable with the knowledge that co-workers might walk by.

 

after checking out that website, i'm thinking i'll pump when i wake up, feed before i leave, pump when i arrive, again on my break, and then one more time before i go if i feel i need it.  i'd rather OVERdo it in the beginning than end up with a plugged duct!  i also have a small manual hand pump that i might toss in my purse in case of some sort of pumping emergency, haha, or if i feel i would be able to grab an extra five minutes somewhere in the day.

 

thanks again for the advice, i know it's more nerves than anything else.

post #144 of 165
Thread Starter 

Love what the girls said, and thought I might just add that since you only have to pump once, maybe twice at work, that a manual pump might work fine for you.  The point being that you might feel more comfortable sitting behind the curtain in your shop using a manual pump-- then you wouldn't feel like people can hear you, whatever.  I have to pump when I'm at school, and I have a real thing about pumping in the bathroom--as in, I use it as a last resort.  Fortunately for me there are curtains hanging in the classroom, as it is a massage room so there are dividers.  With the ok of the professors, I just pull the curtain closest to the back of the room and sit behind it, pumping with my manual.  So far I've only had one douchy guy say "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. haha" yeah, well he also doesn't take his socks off when we have to work on legs and feet--so what is that about!?

 

Good luck, I'm sure that you'll find a pumping situation that suits your needs--even if it takes a bit to work out the kinks.

post #145 of 165

i was thinking of you today - i hope your first week went well and your second week is even better!
 

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thanks for the responses :)

 

to clarify - yes, we really are just a small ma-and-pop operation, no bigger corporation.  the space is really small.  the bathroom door is literally the only door in the entire space - everything else is divided by curtains.  in the years that i've worked there, we've had to rearrange numerous times in order to simply have enough space to store the store's stuff.  there is currently a little nook between a fridge and a table that is mostly out of the way - i had considered whether using a nursing cover would provide enough coverage?  even if i asked them to hang a curtain, there'd only be a piece of fabric between me and the public.  but if a nursing cover would work, i am perfectly comfortable with the knowledge that co-workers might walk by.

 

after checking out that website, i'm thinking i'll pump when i wake up, feed before i leave, pump when i arrive, again on my break, and then one more time before i go if i feel i need it.  i'd rather OVERdo it in the beginning than end up with a plugged duct!  i also have a small manual hand pump that i might toss in my purse in case of some sort of pumping emergency, haha, or if i feel i would be able to grab an extra five minutes somewhere in the day.

 

thanks again for the advice, i know it's more nerves than anything else.



 

post #146 of 165

Thanks for the advice and support!  My return to work went quite smoothly, though I put in my two weeks' after the first week because I wasn't making enough money working part time.  Oh well!  At least now I have a nice freezer stash going!  And when I find another job I won't have the added stress of starting a pumping routine now that I've had a month of figuring out what works for me.  Thanks for the kind words, ladies.
 

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i was thinking of you today - i hope your first week went well and your second week is even better!
 



 



 

post #147 of 165
Hi Ladies: I have a separation anxiety question.
Previously, I made a point of not leaving while she was asleep, and she was waking up with my anyway. In the past week, though, she's been sleeping through me getting out of bed, through me nursing her after I'm ready for work, and sometimes even through me leaving. I think she's supposed to be getting about 12 hours of sleep (with breaks to nurse, of course) at night, so I feel bad waking her up after 10-11 hours if she's sleeping. But I don't want her to wake up with me gone and feel abandoned. Thoughts? (she goes to bed at 7-7:30)
post #148 of 165
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Hi Ladies: I have a separation anxiety question.
Previously, I made a point of not leaving while she was asleep, and she was waking up with my anyway. In the past week, though, she's been sleeping through me getting out of bed, through me nursing her after I'm ready for work, and sometimes even through me leaving. I think she's supposed to be getting about 12 hours of sleep (with breaks to nurse, of course) at night, so I feel bad waking her up after 10-11 hours if she's sleeping. But I don't want her to wake up with me gone and feel abandoned. Thoughts? (she goes to bed at 7-7:30)


Just my 2 cents, but it might be easier on her to wake up and be, "Oh, Ma's not here.  Ok.  I'll just do XYZ..." then to be woken and say, "Oh mama!  Mama is here -- wait, mama is leaving!?" 

 

IME, it was always easier on the child to sneak out (though harder on the mama sometimes, b/c you want that last hug and kis and snuggle).  

 

post #149 of 165
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Originally Posted by Tear78 View Post

Hi Ladies: I have a separation anxiety question.
Previously, I made a point of not leaving while she was asleep, and she was waking up with my anyway. In the past week, though, she's been sleeping through me getting out of bed, through me nursing her after I'm ready for work, and sometimes even through me leaving. I think she's supposed to be getting about 12 hours of sleep (with breaks to nurse, of course) at night, so I feel bad waking her up after 10-11 hours if she's sleeping. But I don't want her to wake up with me gone and feel abandoned. Thoughts? (she goes to bed at 7-7:30)


I'm trying to remember.... who watches her while you work? Can you ask your caregiver how she acts when she wakes up without you versus when you say goodbye?


Lately, I've been getting up at 5:30-6:00 and leaving for work at 7:30. River's usually ready for his nap, so I try to nurse him down. If DH gets into bed with him, they will both nap for about 1 - 1 1/2 hours, and River doesn't seem to mind that I'm gone at that point. Although I have to say that he hasn't started having any reactions when I leave the room yet either. This may change in few months.

 

So, I guess I'd just make a decision based on how she's acting. There's very little in this world that would cause me to wake a sleeping baby. :)

 

post #150 of 165
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Originally Posted by andwhenthefog View Post

Thanks for the advice and support!  My return to work went quite smoothly, though I put in my two weeks' after the first week because I wasn't making enough money working part time.  Oh well!  At least now I have a nice freezer stash going!  And when I find another job I won't have the added stress of starting a pumping routine now that I've had a month of figuring out what works for me.  Thanks for the kind words, ladies.
 


Well, I'm glad the pumping went well, but I'm sorry about your job! It's so hard to balance the cost of childcare vs how much money you can make while away working. Good luck!

 

post #151 of 165

Hi ladies.  I started a new part-time job this week, I like it a lot and there is onsite, super-cheap child care.  So that's the good news.  The bad news?  Poor Anton has developed really intense separation anxiety mecry.gifThe weird thing is he doesn't cry when I leave, but at some point he will just start crying and basically be inconsolable.  I feel guilty not only because he is upset, but also there are usually two staff people there and several kids, and basically one staff person has to just watch Anton while the other watches all the other kids.  So I told them they can come find me and if I'm not with a client I'll go see him.  They've done this, and I've been able to nurse him in their nursery room.  That calms him down...but I hope it's not making it worse in the long run.  Like, does he realize that if he gets upset enough then mommy will appear?  What will happen when I'm with a client and can't go in there?  He's only been there twice so far.  What do you moms with kids in day care think...will he adjust?

 

He's been more clingy at home, too.  He cries when I leave his field of vision.  He's also become a lighter sleeper and cries when he wakes up and doesn't see me.

post #152 of 165

It has been a while since we did a mini check up on how everyone is doing with jobs/babies/pumping...

 

So how are you ladies?

 

AFM;

Last two weeks, I am finding work to  be very stressful. Mostly due to work related stuff, but it is hard not to bring it home. I have been very careful but you know, added stress and I wonder if it is related to the little bit of decline in my milk production. 

 

Other than that, the pumping has been going rather smoothly, and have been doing it twice daily at work.

post #153 of 165
Work stress is a big one for me, too. I just feel like I have such a difficult few kids this year, and I feel like a bad teacher as a result. greensad.gif I wonder too if it's affecting my supply. It's definitely making me tense. Other than that, I also feel like I'm in a groove with pumping, though I'm starting to look fondly toward the end of the school year when I will end my routine pumping relationship. I don't think I'll start up again in September, though I plan to keep nursing while I'm home if my supply continues. She turns 1 in July, in that just takes some pressure off. I'm going to a bachelorette party on Saturday, so I'm trying to eke out an ounce or two extra every day so I have enough for her to eat that night while I'm out. I'm a little nervous! Is it weird that I don't want to be out too late? it starts at 3, and I kinda want to come home at 10. lame-o? hide.gif
post #154 of 165

elove, I'm glad your pumping is still going well, despite the stress.

 

Tear, how amazing that your pumping days are almost over!!!! I plan on only going until 12 months or so if possible. It all depends on how River is doing then, and I'm trying to get him more interested in solids so the transition will be easier on him.

 

My pumping output has gone down in the last few months. Now I have to pump 4 times and get 10-12 oz total. DH is such an awesome daddy and just makes due with what I leave for him, even though River used to get up to 16 oz back when I made more. He's obviously still healthy, but I know that it also means DH deals with a crankier baby. I'm so grateful that he is as dedicated as I am to our son getting breastmilk! And I'm also thankful my work is so flexible that it's ok for me to pump 4 times a day. :)

post #155 of 165
hear, hear to dedicated DHs! I have noticed a decrease in output in the past months. I guess it's probably normal with the increased solids, but it's easy to freak out when pumping because you can measure the decrease. We probably wouldn't even notice if we weren't pumping. 10-12oz is great, though! Keep up the good work! thumb.gif
post #156 of 165

ooh, Tear,  I am too envious of the pumping break that is coming your way! Enjoy every minute of it.

 

Cat - 10-12 is my regular range (i know it is dependent on how much the babe eats) but just wanted to say that  - that is still a pretty good amount. I think you are doing great. 

 

I know there are more of us working/pumping but feels like the traffic here is a bit low. I wish we could get it back up. I miss the ladies who are not on fb.

post #157 of 165
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ooh, Tear,  I am too envious of the pumping break that is coming your way! Enjoy every minute of it.

 

Cat - 10-12 is my regular range (i know it is dependent on how much the babe eats) but just wanted to say that  - that is still a pretty good amount. I think you are doing great. 

 

I know there are more of us working/pumping but feels like the traffic here is a bit low. I wish we could get it back up. I miss the ladies who are not on fb.

 

Me too! I'm going to start posting here more. :)

post #158 of 165
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Originally Posted by elove View Post

ooh, Tear,  I am too envious of the pumping break that is coming your way! Enjoy every minute of it.

Cat - 10-12 is my regular range (i know it is dependent on how much the babe eats) but just wanted to say that  - that is still a pretty good amount. I think you are doing great. 

I know there are more of us working/pumping but feels like the traffic here is a bit low. I wish we could get it back up. I miss the ladies who are not on fb.

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Me too! I'm going to start posting here more. smile.gif

yay!! I miss you ladies, too! I was a bit worried our ddc was fizzling out.

I know I'm super lucky to have the summer of with her. My job is so demanding and stressful during the school year that it's kind of a mental necessity. BUT OHH, SUMMERRRRRRR...

I only get about 8oz these days with 3 pumping sessions. I think 10-12 sounds awesome!
post #159 of 165

still pumping here! dd and solids are not getting along so well so she's still been getting about  12-16 oz a day. along with the more milk plus & oatmeal & coconut oil i've been sure to only send what i pump - luckily it's worked out.

 

dh and i had to talk about the way he feeds her - i had assumed he was feeding on cue, but he was always feeding her every 2 hours. he told me he really didn't know what to look for for hungry signs. i was leaving 5 3oz bottles -  could send 4 bottles to the babysitter and there would always be a little left. when dh has her, i now come home to a leftover bottle now and again!

post #160 of 165

I'm neither working nor going to school but I'm still here!  Reading along cheering all of you on!  I did work FT for a bit with Nora and PT with her as well, so I know what kind of dedication it takes to keep pumping at work!!

 

You ladies ROCK!!

 

Congrats to Tear - coming up on the summer must feel wonderful!!

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