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post #21 of 61

to be perfectly honest, this vaccination issues give my brain some serious pain. I checked the schedule for european countries and saw that it is pretty much the same schedule - at least what was posted online. We definitely skipped HepB and the Ped was more than ok w that and she follows Dr.Sears schedule..but still 4 vacs for a 2 month old little body seems...in humane! not sure why I just get very emotional and scared about this...

post #22 of 61


Actually, it's more like seven vaccines (or eight, if the Hep B is given at two months) given in a variety of combinations.  DTaP (diptheria, tetanus, acelluar pertussis) is three vaccines in one dose.  

 

Trust your instincts, mamas!  Read everything you can get your hands on and know that you can *always* decide to do it later.  I vaccinated against my instincts with my first and I regret it.  
 


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 but still 4 vacs for a 2 month old little body seems...in humane! not sure why I just get very emotional and scared about this...



 

post #23 of 61

We do not vax. The reasons why are much too many, but the more I thought about it when I was pregnant with our first, the more sure I have become of our decision. When I read this personal vaccination story by another mom, I know I wouldn't want to be in her place. Personally I think the chances of reactions are much too high and most diseases are treatable if the child isn't neglected. I would rather build her immune system than inject something that literally kills it. Not comfortable with any of the vaccine ingredients on all levels either. 

post #24 of 61
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Carrie, I know with doing a delayed schedule, you end up going to more doctor visits overall. How did your ped office handle this? Did they give you a hassle? Also, I know this might be too personal and might differ by insurance, but do you have to pay all out of pocket for these extra visits since they aren't the usual well-baby visits?

 

 

 

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Tina, my ped office will make me a "nurse visit" if it's just for a vax.  It takes 5 min, and there's no copay because it's not a real dr visit.  They don't usually give a hassle, they're just happy the kid is getting the shots, in my experience.

 

This is how it works for us, too.  I just schedule a nurse visit.  No copay for those.  It literally takes a minute -- no waiting in the waiting room, no waiting for the dr.  Just a quick in and out.  Takes longer to drive there.  

 

So many people are off schedule or doing a follow up schedule that they don't realize I'm doing anything different (as in making my OWN schedule).  No hassles, no problems at all.  
 

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Actually, it's more like seven vaccines (or eight, if the Hep B is given at two months) given in a variety of combinations.  DTaP (diptheria, tetanus, acelluar pertussis) is three vaccines in one dose.  

 

Trust your instincts, mamas!  Read everything you can get your hands on and know that you can *always* decide to do it later.  I vaccinated against my instincts with my first and I regret it.  
 


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It's important too to weigh your risk.  One child's risk is different than another.  If I couldn't/didn't breastfeed, or wasn't a SAHM, or if someone close to use had Hep B...my choices in vaxing would be different.

 

Figure out what is in each injection (b/c some have so many vaccines at once), weigh your risks, and go from there. 

 

post #25 of 61
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It's important too to weigh your risk.  One child's risk is different than another.  If I couldn't/didn't breastfeed, or wasn't a SAHM, or if someone close to use had Hep B...my choices in vaxing would be different.

 



Yes, this, exactly.  I feel very confident in our choice to not vaccinate at this point, but if our life circumstances changed, I think we would probably do some vaccines.   

post #26 of 61

the dr.sears schedule actually has 2 vacs for two months...dtap is supposedly separate than the others, i m yet to confirm this - if not it makes 4 vacs.

not knowing if we will be putting her to day care in January is a big issue in deciding this..also;

has anyone changed their vac schedule due to a trip coming up involving flights?

 

as i said i know the info is out there but knowing that we have to do some vaccs (day care potential plus DH will be TAing undergrads this quarter) + just wanting to wait at least until 6or12 months old = me. emotionally drained -crying everytime we talk about this 

 

how do the babes react when the shots are administered?

post #27 of 61
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the dr.sears schedule actually has 2 vacs for two months...dtap is supposedly separate than the others, i m yet to confirm this - if not it makes 4 vacs.

not knowing if we will be putting her to day care in January is a big issue in deciding this..also;

has anyone changed their vac schedule due to a trip coming up involving flights?

 

as i said i know the info is out there but knowing that we have to do some vaccs (day care potential plus DH will be TAing undergrads this quarter) + just wanting to wait at least until 6or12 months old = me. emotionally drained -crying everytime we talk about this 

 

how do the babes react when the shots are administered?



hug2.gif  It's tough, I hear you.  Especially when you and your partner don't agree.  Just remember you can always change your mind and get them if you delay some or choose not to at this time.  

 


IME, small babies cry hard when they are injected, but then if you nurse right away, all is forgotten.  At least for me, it's a little heartbreaking, but being able to pull them right to my breast and give them comfort makes me feel like I'm doing something about their pain.  Sometimes afterwards they get crabby, or restless.  Anything more worrysome like a true vaccine reaction should be reported to VAERS, though.  Most parents don't know about this.  Nothing can be done to make our vaccines safer unless all reactions and injuries are reported.

post #28 of 61
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IME, small babies cry hard when they are injected, but then if you nurse right away, all is forgotten.  At least for me, it's a little heartbreaking, but being able to pull them right to my breast and give them comfort makes me feel like I'm doing something about their pain.  Sometimes afterwards they get crabby, or restless.  Anything more worrysome like a true vaccine reaction should be reported to VAERS, though.  Most parents don't know about this.  Nothing can be done to make our vaccines safer unless all reactions and injuries are reported.



Thank you for this. 

post #29 of 61

I think the schedule is about the same here, though they don't do HepB at all and only recently added the "extra" vaxs that we didn't get as kids. And I think you still have to pay for chicken pox yourself because it's not considered truly necessary.

 

DH and I decided, somewhat arbitrarily maybe, to give her those vaxs that we got as kids and none of the "newfangled" ones. So dtap, polio, and mmr. They want us to do dtap at 2 months but I don't think I'm comfortable with that - was thinking of waiting until maybe 4 months. Also only one shot at a time - they would want us to do dtap, polio, and hib at 2 months! It actually kind of shocked me to see that.

 

I'm not too worried about measles, but mumps and rubella I'd like to give my kids immunity to for future reproductive reasons, and chances are they won't catch the diseases naturally as kids. Polio, diphtheria and tetanus (since we don't live on a farm or anything) are very rare but serious enough that I'd like to avoid them. Also pertussis seems like a real pita. I've never gotten a flu vaccine and we used to get it every other year as kids and were fine, so none of that. The chickenpox one I consider a joke. The others I'd never heard of until very recently and I figure if my generation survived without them then DD will too. Oh and definitely no gardasil, though we have a while before crossing that bridge.

 

Our nurse is old enough to have had half the diseases I was vaccinated for, and has no problems with us delaying/being selective. The only one she wanted to see DD get early is pertussis. Also according to the nurse the newer version of the dtap has very few reactions - apparently they changed something recently?

 

I am also with everyone else on wishing there were more objective sources for vaccine info! I'm basically making my decisions based on what I've been able to filter out from the ideology of both sides. 

post #30 of 61

Yes---and make sure to get the package insert with the lot number on it, just in case you need to report a reaction.  I know many parents also ask that the vaccines be drawn up in front of them as an added safety measure to make sure the right vaccines are being given.  (Often the nurse will come in with syringes of vaccine already drawn up; you would need to ask about this ahead of time.)  
 

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   Anything more worrysome like a true vaccine reaction should be reported to VAERS, though.   


 

post #31 of 61

I used to consider the chickenpox vaccine huge joke.  But, the older DD gets, the more annoying (for her) it's going to be if she contracts it.  And, on top of that,  it's HARD to find wild chickenpox because everyone vaccinates for it now.  Pox parties are rare.  And if one came up now, I don't think I'd do it b/c Finn is so tiny.  We are sort of stuck b/w a rock and a hard place.  My feeling is if she hasn't caught it by the time kindergarten comes around, we will vax for it.  Though...I'm considering getting it for her before she starts preschool.  Not sure.

post #32 of 61

CP is really hard to find around here as well. It was several years of looking before I found it for the girls, they were 5 and 1 then. I started looking last year again for DS1, and have yet to come across any in my area. There are several families searching for it so I'm hopeful that one of these years we'll get it. DS1 is only 2 and since we aren't hsing anymore, it would be nice to get before K. Ideally this little guy would be over 1 but since it is so rare, I wouldn't be picky if the chance came up.

post #33 of 61
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CP is really hard to find around here as well. It was several years of looking before I found it for the girls, they were 5 and 1 then. I started looking last year again for DS1, and have yet to come across any in my area. There are several families searching for it so I'm hopeful that one of these years we'll get it. DS1 is only 2 and since we aren't hsing anymore, it would be nice to get before K. Ideally this little guy would be over 1 but since it is so rare, I wouldn't be picky if the chance came up.


That's a good point.  I just did a little searching and this is what I found..

 

http://www.askdrsears.com/topics/childhood-illnesses/chicken-pox

 

 

I HAVE A NEWBORN AND MY OLDER CHILD WAS JUST EXPOSED TO CHICKENPOX, OR JUST BROKE OUT WITH CHICKENPOX. WHAT SHOULD I DO

If your older child was exposed, then try and keep the baby away from him during the 7 to 21 day period after exposure. This may be tough, but it's important. Breastfeeding will help provide your baby with some immunity. If your older one breaks out in chickenpox, then just quarantine him until no longer contagious as above. If your newborn infant was exposed before you knew the situation, there is really no way to prevent the illness, yet most likely your newborn carries your immunity to chickenpox.

Not the best situation, but not horrible...

 

post #34 of 61

I get aggravated with my pediatrician's office because I try to discuss a selective approach and they tell me I have to do all or nothing - they even go as far to say that DD would need to catch up on ALL the shots she needed since birth if we were to start vax- and she just had her 4 yr old checkup.  I dont feel informed enough to set which vax I want and dont get any real feedback from the Drs - annoying

post #35 of 61

I didn't do the hep b at birth and I was hoping to so selective/delayed vaccines. When I told my ped she didn't have the hep b she said "Well her first round of shots will be at her 2 month apt." I didn't want to argue. I planned on researching more and coming back at her 1 month apt with a plan, but that's on tuesday and I still don't know what I think would be best. :/

post #36 of 61
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I used to consider the chickenpox vaccine huge joke.  But, the older DD gets, the more annoying (for her) it's going to be if she contracts it.  And, on top of that,  it's HARD to find wild chickenpox because everyone vaccinates for it now.  Pox parties are rare.  And if one came up now, I don't think I'd do it b/c Finn is so tiny.  We are sort of stuck b/w a rock and a hard place.  My feeling is if she hasn't caught it by the time kindergarten comes around, we will vax for it.  Though...I'm considering getting it for her before she starts preschool.  Not sure.


Gosh, I didn't realize it had gotten that hard to find. I think it's still pretty common here.

 

I got it in 2nd grade, when I was 8, along with the rest of my class, and passed it on to my younger siblings. As far as I remember, it was pretty mild, just annoying because of the itching. I remember it being just a basic, expected thing that none of the adults in my life worried about. That probably influences my feeling of shock that they made a vaccine for it. But if I didn't think my kids would be able to get it in childhood I supposed I would consider vaxxing for it too, sort of like m m and r now.

 

post #37 of 61
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 I still don't know what I think would be best. :/

 Then just wait.  When you get to the appt and they bring them up, just say, "I haven't made my mind up yet about what to do, so I'm going to wait for now."  No harm done, and you can ALWAYS start the full series if that's what you decide.  But you can never take back those shots, mama.  Take the time to do the research.  You won't regret it.
 

 

post #38 of 61
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 Then just wait.  When you get to the appt and they bring them up, just say, "I haven't made my mind up yet about what to do, so I'm going to wait for now."  No harm done, and you can ALWAYS start the full series if that's what you decide.  But you can never take back those shots, mama.  Take the time to do the research.  You won't regret it.
 

 


That's most likely what i'll do. I hope she doesn't try and pressure me. I'm such a pushover. They talked me into the eye goop at the hospital, I wasnt going to do it b/c I tested negative for all stds and gbs multiple times. I cried when they did it AND she still got a little infection. 

 

post #39 of 61

We'll be vaxing. I want to do selective but I wonder how successful I will be. Today she was supposed to get Hep B, but we missed appt...but I guess, it's a good thing. Now, I am going to skip hep b all together till later time.

 

We'll be traveling out of the country in Dec to Bangladesh...so, I will have her get the few vaxes before our trip since I plan on returning rto US after her first birthday God willing. For now, mainly want her to get the Dtap, Hib and PCV. And may be Polio....gosh that's a whole lot already!

 

I got chicken pox in 7th grade and period at the same time...it was quite interesting. LOL

post #40 of 61

So, a bit off-topic, but a baby born the day after our DD in the next room was accidentally given the dtap, meant for the mother instead of the Hep B vaccine just hours after birth.

Because our experience was so stressful I almost forgot about this til right now.

 

I understand mistakes are made, but seriously!!!???

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