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Just truned 2, still wakes 8-10 times a night...

post #1 of 6
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My dd just turned 2, and is still breastfed. I never attempted any night-weaning, and I've struggled through this complete lack of sleep (I dont ever get more than an hour at a time), because up until 19 months, she was exclusively breastfed. We tried everything to get her to eat, went to the feeding clinic at the Children's Hospital, nothing worked, until one day, she was ready.

I didn't want to restrict her access to breastmilk at night, because she actually really needed it. Even now that she's eating pretty well, I still worry about reducing her milk intake. But, I need sleep. I am now 7 weeks pregnant, and I need to get her sleeping through the night before we add another baby to the mix.

I nurse her at bedtime, and then I tell her "num nums are going to sleep", she now (its been 2 months) says "night night num nums" and eventually (like after an hour) falls asleep. She doesnt ask to nurse during that hour it takes her to fall asleep, she used to, but now she doesn't. Now I'm trying to tell her every time she wakes, that num nums are still sleeping, rarely she just falls back to sleep. Most of the time, she cries and grabs at me, and eventually, (like after 45 min) falls asleep, only to wake up again asking in 10-45 min. If Im lucky, her first stretch of sleep is 2-3 hours, but after that, its maybe 1.5 hours at best, often less than 20 min.

Not sure what else I can do, but keep doing what Im doing. Problem is, I often give in and nurse her, because Im just too tired. And at nap time, I often nurse her to sleep, and she often stays attached, again, because Im just too tired, and I need that 1.5 hour break in the day.

 

post #2 of 6

Can dp help with the night time wakings for awhile so bf is not an option?

 

We also introduced a water bottle when we nightweaned & that helped a lot. Ds wouldn't want the water bottle when first offered but once he accepted it (sometimes 2 minutes sometimes 25 minutes) he'd have a big drink & then right back to sleep. It really helped us with the transition.

 

I also didn't make the whole night no bfing but created a 5 hour block at first. It didn't take long for him to start sleeping pretty much through the night & then when he had an early morning wake-up we'd bf once & then he'd sleep another longer chunk until wake-up. Before nightweaning he was up pretty constant.

post #3 of 6

Ugh, this sounds exactly like what we are going through, only dd is only 16 months. How is your daughter's weight? Does she eat a good dinner? I have been so hesitant to night wean or restrict her nursing in any way but by two I think you are on the right track. And especially since you are pg you need to take care of yourself. I hope you find a way to get some sleep... I know how you feel. We haven't had more than one or two stretches over 3 hours ever.

post #4 of 6
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DH is willing to help, but dd wants nothing to do with him in the middle of the night. Her crying often escalates when he tries to tell her its still time to sleep...I'll try the water bottle idea :)

DD is tiny, 32 inches and only 21 lbs, but has been in the 3rd-5th percentile since 9 months (was born 8lbs 1 oz though....)

Her meals are never big, but she does eat pretty well, kinda grazes all day. Im not concerned so much about her nutrition, in fact, Im hoping that by sleeping better, she'll be hungrier in the morning. Lunch and dinner are her best meals, she's only started eating breakfast in the past 2 weeks, before that she refused any food (other than nursing) until about 10 am. Everything with dd is at a snails pace, I know she will do it eventually, but it will be on her terms, just like the eating. She had no physical issues or anything like that, just didnt want to eat yet. Her comprehension is huge though, she's been talking in full sentence for months now, so I do feel (hope) that by telling her over and over that num nums go to sleep, she'll just stop asking. I would love to know why she wakes up in the first place though. She never accepted a paci, and she used to suck her thumb, between 3-6 months, and when she did, she slept through the night, like 7 full hours. Damn teething / biting her thumb when she tried to suck it stopped that loooong ago!

 

post #5 of 6
If I had to guess I would say she's waking up because (a) she's hungry (she sounds like a grazer so this is my #1) (b) she misses the comfort of a warm body (c) the comfort of nursing is missed or (d) all of the above. 

I think the real question is do you intend to tandem nurse when baby comes? If so, cosleeping solutions are for you and she will work herself out when the baby starts walking and she is ready to prove to the world she's not a baby. 
If not, weening is in your future and this will lead you down another series of questions (and preferably answers) but it does involve your husband being a seriously awesome dude and taking the bad end of the stick from all sides (the upside being they will be tight in a way you may not anticipate) 
Between weening and new baby (weened 3m preg as my body couldn't handle the demand) my husband took over bed time routine for my son. It was one of things we did to make the new baby not as stressful. It was one of the best things we did. 

If she's hungry have you considered formula at night? Bad for her teeth but might cut it both ways. Pumping I think would be hard on your body right now.

As for b & c I'm not the best person to ask as we cosleep and use a sibling bed. Also my husband took the reins.

Good luck

Oh yea ... Giving in sends mixed messages and will create more work for you. I know you're tired. If you want sleep more than solution fight it out in your second trimester when you have more energy. But I think if you stick to it 2-3 weeks tops. 2 VERY LONG AND TIRING weeks!
post #6 of 6
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I wouldnt mind tandem nursing, I really dont want dd to wean completely, but I think it is time for her to be able to sleep through the night. During the day, she often goes 5 hours between nursing sessions now, so I know she can do it, (5 hours of uninterrupted sleep would be amazing).

DH starts the night-time routine, but when she starts to get really tired, I go in and nurse her, then I tell her they are going to sleep, and she pops off without a fuss and says "night night". I think the problem is she gets into a light sleep, realizes she has nothing in her mouth, and wakes up asking for it. Sometimes she goes back to sleep within a minute or two, other times she really fights it. Maybe she's actually hungry those other times....

She had a huge dinner tonight, so the hunger really shouldnt be an issue... hopefully tonight goes better than last night, though I did manage to go from 9pm-4am without feeding her, but I think she woke up at least 8 times during that span. I need to help her find a way to put herself back to sleep.

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