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post #1 of 88
Thread Starter 

I confess, I HATE pumping.

 

Going back to work full time really soon. (Supposed to be next week but I am going to beg for a couple more weeks, Baby isn't even six weeks and we haven't found day care still.)

 

So, I am pumping to build up all the frozen milk to bring to daycare when she gets there. I am pumping a 2 - 3 times a day, getting about 4- 6 ounces each time.

 

I am so lucky that WIC is lending me a double electric pump, a Hygeia, and it definitely makes it easier. But, it is not pleasant. I want to cuddle with DD after we nurse, not plug into a pump. Anybody else?

 

But, I am going to keep at it. Its been about a week and I want our little pumpkin to have breast milk of course.

 

DP gave her her first bottle last night to prepare her in case it took a while, and they did a wonderful job. I nearly cried though. I confess. Part of it was happiness and seeing DP have that wonderful moment with her. And, of course, part of me was a tad bit jealous.

 

Whew.

 

Anybody else have advice, support or complaints about pumping? Pumping to track your supply? Share!

 

I can't even imagine how I am going to hook up to this thing once I go back to work, LOL! (I don't have an office job at the moment, but work mostly on the road)

post #2 of 88
I just started pumping once a day, too. It made me a bit nervous about my supply, to be honest. The first time I got a good 3-4oz. but the last three times I got about an oz. or less. It seems like I'm just making exactly enough for her? How am I supposed to stockpile a supply at this rate? Luckily, I don't have to return to work until mid Nov. so there's time to figure this out.
post #3 of 88
I pump not only to stockpile for my return to work in January, but also because I'm a low supply mama. Pumping helps with the supply/demand concept in milk production. Basically, the more often the breast get emptied, the more milk you make. So, if you're not getting a lot of expressed milk, keep pumping. Several times a day after nursing. I'd suggest a minimum of 3-4 x/day, but ideally 6-7x/day. You will eventually get higher output because houbara tricking your body into thinking baby needs more milk. Also, let baby suckle at the breast for comfort as much as possible. If you are really concerned, you can try fenugreek and other galactagogue herbs to help stimulate more milk production. Kellymom.com has lots or resources on galactagogues--herbal and medicinal.

As for pumping comfort, well, it sucks! Literally and figuratively. I hate, hate, hate it. But it's mandatory for me to keep my production up high enough to not have to supplement. You may need to check the fit of the flanges. If they're too big or small it can affect your comfort level.

Also, it is possible to pump in the car. Meddle makes a hands free pumping bra with openings that hold the flanges to your chest really well. I'll try to find it online and post a link when I can get to my pc. And most electric pumps have car adaptors to let them plug into the cigarette lighter.

Good luck to you!
post #4 of 88

I was just realizing that I need to start pumping soon to build up a small stash before I go back to work in another 4 weeks. I figure that if I start now, I might be able to just do one pump each day, and I am usually so full first thing in the morning so I think that's when I'll do it.  I don't want to have too big of a stash though, because I don't want to rely on my stash to get me through my workdays... if he was eating from my stash as well as what I'd pumped the previous day, that means that he would be eating more milk per day than I am producing, so I'd be afraid that after a few weeks, my supply would go down, right? This is so confusing!  

 

I hear you about not wanting to cut into cuddle time! River is such a fussy baby and cries all the time, so the post-nursing is such a sweet time to hang out with him. 

 

It's strange, because being home all the time can make me a little stir-crazy, but I am totally fantasizing about being a SAHM. We can't make that happen financially, but a girl can dream! sigh

post #5 of 88
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Originally Posted by cat13 View Post

It's strange, because being home all the time can make me a little stir-crazy, but I am totally fantasizing about being a SAHM. We can't make that happen financially, but a girl can dream! sigh


Yes, exactly!!!!  I do the same exact thing. I am dreaming away. Sometimes my dream involves DP and I splitting one full-time job and being able to pay the bills and avoid day care, LOL.

 

post #6 of 88

ya, i m dreaming of  staying home too - but cannot do w/o my paycheck and love my work sooo not happenin any time soon...

i have been pumpin every other day.

 

tear - it says pumping regularly between 1-5am will help building up ur supply..i have not tried this yet so not sure how well it works.

 

what are you ladies storing your milk in?

post #7 of 88
Thanks, elove! DD only drank a little bit at her 5am feeding today, so I pumped and got 3.5 oz! smile.gif I already feel a little more full overall today, so I think the pumping might be helping. I'm pumping right into the plastic storage bags and popping those in the freezer. I'm not sure how to heat it up again though...
post #8 of 88
Thread Starter 

n.a.k.

 

It also took me a couple of days of pumping and getting an ounce or less before getting a decent amount of milk each time. The morning does seem to be the time when I get the most though.

 

I have been pumping into the bottles that came with the pump and then putting them in the storage bags. When I pumped right into the bags they had holes in them, not sure what that is about? I must have done something wrong. The pump I am using is the Enjoye Hygeia. I had never heard of it. It is a double electric rental from WIC. I kinda like it because it is run on batteries that I plug in to charge and the batteries last for eight hours of pumping, so I'll definitely be able to pump in the car! It also has a way to record the baby cry to help encourage let-down!!! DP figured it out and recorded DD crying and that seems to help!

 

I am also unsure of how to warm up the frozen breastmilk. ??   DP gave her a bottle and I just pulled out the frozen milk a few hours before and left on the counter so it was room temp, but it was still too cold I thought and so we ran some warm water over the bag before putting it in the bottle.

 

I also have to complain about cleaning out the pumping supplies! Oh my goodness, it is such a pain!! Wish I had a dishwasher!!! eyesroll.gif

post #9 of 88

I've always been told to warm up the bags of milk under running water. No experience though, since I haven't used anything I've frozen. 

 

I pump into the bottles and am using Lansinoh bags for storage. I don't know if I want to start pumping more or not, since I don't plan on leaving Liam until I go back to school, and I've got enough for a couple days now, I think. 

post #10 of 88

so the book says to thaw the milk either in the fridge or under running warm water or in a bowl of warm water.. i guess you thaw the amount you need snd than put it in the bottle...any other ideas??

 

post #11 of 88

I always thawed the frozen bags in the fridge. That way I could take them out the night before and get the bottles ready in the morning.

 

As to amounts, I froze either 2 or 4 ounces per bag. That's enough for one bottle. From what I read somewhere - on Kellymom.com - ebf-babies don't need more at one feeding and that it's better to have more bottles than bottles that are too big (think wasting all that milk). I believe someone suggested freezing the milk in ice cubes instead which would make it even more convenient to portion.

post #12 of 88
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Originally Posted by Tear78 View Post

I just started pumping once a day, too. It made me a bit nervous about my supply, to be honest. The first time I got a good 3-4oz. but the last three times I got about an oz. or less. It seems like I'm just making exactly enough for her? How am I supposed to stockpile a supply at this rate? Luckily, I don't have to return to work until mid Nov. so there's time to figure this out.


me too- I feel I dont have much left to pump once he's had a god feeding - and once i think i pumped and then he wanted to eat and got pissed there wasnt anything left for him :(- I felt awful.  I typically only pump 12 oz after a feeding- is that normal or am i having supply issues- again???

post #13 of 88

Hey mamas, joining you!

 

I'm not going back to work, but I pump every so often and have a pretty good stash built up.  Finn is almost 6 weeks old so we are going to intro the bottle soon.  I can't believe its that time already!

 

Anyway, what I learned from pumping/working FT last time hopefully can help you mamas, too.  And I could use support as well.  It's tough to fit in time to pump b/w having two littles.

 

Re: warming milk.  Normally I'll pull the bag out of the freezer and put it in the fridge the night before I need it.  It'll thaw in the fridge usually by morning.  If not, just some lukewarm water in a measuring cup usually works to break up the last bits of ice.

 

Re: freezing - always freeze in small amounts.  If you pump 5-6 oz, divide it into 2 bags.  That way you don't thaw more than you need!  If you need all of it anyway to make multiple bottles, then it's all good though.

 

Nald - do u mean 1 to 2 oz? Otherwise, damn, u are not having supply issues!!

post #14 of 88
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Originally Posted by Baby_Cakes View Post

Nald - do u mean 1 to 2 oz? Otherwise, damn, u are not having supply issues!!

I know! My reaction too, lol.

/thanks for the tips, Carrie! I also have trouble finding time to pump when there feels likw anything is left.
post #15 of 88

I really need to start pumping. But I'm not sure what the best time would be since DS2 is clusterfeeding whenever he's awake, leaving both sides empty by the time he settles down for a nap. With DS1, I usually pumped in the morning after he went down for a morning nap, and then again at night before I went to bed. But since I feel completely drained most of the day, I wonder if I should stick with those times and hope the supply adjusts or if I should wait for an hour or so, pump, and hope that DS2 naps long enough to replenish supply?

post #16 of 88

how funny!! Typing on sleep deprivation _ dangerous- YES< i mean 1-2 oz- God, 12- dont I WISH!!!!!

post #17 of 88

Any luck with fenugreek or certain foods for increased supply, anyone?

post #18 of 88

1-2 oz is normal.  Please, don't think you're having supply issues!  That's AFTER you're feeding the baby -- that's phenomenal!

 

http://www.kellymom.com/bf/pumping/pumping_decrease.html

 

Lots of good info there, specifically...

 

"Most moms who are nursing full-time are able to pump around 1/2 to 2 ounces total (for both breasts) per pumping session. Moms who pump more milk per session may have an oversupply of milk, or may respond better than average to the pump, or may have been able to increase pump output with practice. Many moms think that they should be able to pump 4-8 ounces per pumping session, but even 4 ounces is an unusually large pumping output."

 

"It is quite normal to need to pump 2-3 times to get enough milk for one feeding for baby (remember that the pump cannot get as much milk as a baby who nurses effectively)."

 

I had a good response to More Milk Plus tincture when I was pumping for Nora (working FT).  It's tragic really.  I was sending 16 oz (4 bottles of 4 oz each) with her to my MIL's.  For about 2 weeks, I was KILLING MYSELF trying to pump enough milk.  I was pumping 4 times a day at work, and not getting much else done.  It was exhausting.  I wasn't able to meet that 16 oz a day, not by a long shot.  I would get maybe 12??  Finally I had to ask my MIL, is she really drinking all this milk??  Turns out, she would offer Nora the bottle and dump out whatever she wasn't drinking!!  Sometimes up to 3 oz!!  I set her straight and omg, to this day I still get upset thinking about all my milk that went down the drain.

post #19 of 88

So for two days in a row I have gotten up after a 2-5am-ish feeding and pumped. I feel so proud of myself and I got 2 oz the first day and 3 oz today. The first day wasn't so bad, but this morning was tough because after River ate, he did not want to go back to sleep at all. So I woke DH and told him he had to take over while I pumped.... baby starts crying, and 10 minutes later they walk into the living room and DH says that River is hungry again, and of course River gives me the lip licking hunger cue/I'm-starving-face.  I tried to reason with him that I'm trying to feed future-you right now, so you'll just have to hang out with daddy for a while. More crying, which made more milk flow from the pump! Anyway, so I wrapped up the pumping and went back to bed to nurse him again.  I doubt there was much left after nursing-pumping-nursing, but he mostly wanted to comfort nurse anyway. 

 

I hope I can find a better rhythm. And I hope I find time for a nap today.

post #20 of 88
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Originally Posted by Baby_Cakes View Post

1-2 oz is normal. Please, don't think you're having supply issues! That's AFTER you're feeding the baby -- that's phenomenal!

http://www.kellymom.com/bf/pumping/pumping_decrease.html

Lots of good info there, specifically...

"Most moms who are nursing full-time are able to pump around 1/2 to 2 ounces total (for both breasts) per pumping session. Moms who pump more milk per session may have an oversupply of milk, or may respond better than average to the pump, or may have been able to increase pump output with practice. Many moms think that they should be able to pump 4-8 ounces per pumping session, but even 4 ounces is an unusually large pumping output."

"It is quite normal to need to pump 2-3 times to get enough milk for one feeding for baby (remember that the pump cannot get as much milk as a baby who nurses effectively)."

I had a good response to More Milk Plus tincture when I was pumping for Nora (working FT). It's tragic really. I was sending 16 oz (4 bottles of 4 oz each) with her to my MIL's. For about 2 weeks, I was KILLING MYSELF trying to pump enough milk. I was pumping 4 times a day at work, and not getting much else done. It was exhausting. I wasn't able to meet that 16 oz a day, not by a long shot. I would get maybe 12?? Finally I had to ask my MIL, is she really drinking all this milk?? Turns out, she would offer Nora the bottle and dump out whatever she wasn't drinking!! Sometimes up to 3 oz!! I set her straight and omg, to this day I still get upset thinking about all my milk that went down the drain.



Carrie, I want to cry reading that! Wasting breastmilk should be a crime!

As for supplements: the breastfeeding challenges forum probably has tons more info, but here's my regimen...

3x/day:

40mg domperidone
2480mg fenugreek (4 capsules)
1000mg alfalfa root
fish oil capsule
Cup of Mother's milk tea by Traditional Medicinals

I just added blessed thistle and marshmallow root as well.

I pump 2-5x/day as I can make it happen.

This is all just to keep baby fed and slowly build my freezer stash.


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